Both scenarios aren’t ideal but from a liability/ financial standpoint....you do you

The most difficult “squatters” to get rid of are family and friends - if you still want a relationship with them. It is best to be super careful who you invite to stay in your house for even a short time. I suppose if necessary, you could start renovations, change the flooring etc which requires everything to be moved out of wherever they are staying… you could pay to move them into a hotel, then stop paying the bills after a bit explaining you can’t do it anymore.

Liability? Stranger squatters are full out invaders of your home.

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

S&W 500? If a malevolent elephant breaks into your home then you are all set ;-)

Ammo
 

The ammo is expensive, but if a slug stops a perp, then it is all worth it.

I've shot a couple of rounds from a S&W 500. Just pointing that thing at someone should be sufficient to make then run in the other direction and require a change in underwear.

Yes, I follow you. I guess that is the reason why even though I leave a couple of homes empty for long periods of time - with security and property management while I’m away, I would never consider renting out. Up north especially, renters view the place they rent as their home. This concept always bewildered me because if you rent a car it is not “your car” so why would a place you rent be “your place”? In my view, it should be up to government services to provide shelter for those who can’t afford it. I’ll happily support charity, subsidy etc
to help out but on my terms.

The problem is that, in some states, what you are calling a home invader in your second sentence, the law calls them a squatter with tenant rights. Law enforcement may tell you that they cannot help you because it is a civil matter. Then, it can take months to evict the squatter, home invader, or whatever you want to call them.

How many tenants verify that the landlord who signs the lease is actually the property owner or an authorized agent? There are scammers who find a vacant house and advertise it for rent. Then, they show the house to a tenant, provide a fraudulent lease, and collect a security deposit. The tenant then becomes an unwitting squatter. Easy money for the scammer, but a huge problem for the tenant and the owner.

I know , as many as these threads often do, they go off of OP original questions(s). I’ve done it myself. To review, I know of not one state in the union, where an individual can enter a premises, not their own and make themselves at home. No ambiguity there...that is a home invasion. Worse if they do so and an owner is home. Now if you rent a room, your whole home etc for an agreed upon duration and that individual refuses to vacate....now we’re in true squatter territory. Two very separate and distinct situations with vastly different (potential) outcomes. You are correct that every state handles it in a different way.

This....I totally agree with. Unfortunately two victims (owner, unsuspecting tenant). This is where the waters get murky, the bureaucracy kicks in and reconciliation appears lost.

The sad reality is that as localities refuse to enforce property rights, prospective buyers will look elsewhere knowing that their purchase is not safe. Same with crime and same with business regulation. Kevin O'Leary thinks NY state is essentially unsafe to do business in anymore in light of some recent court rulings. I don't disagree.

Maybe when these insane localities have no businesses and no residents, which translates to no tax base, they will change their tune. I'm not holding my breath.

I don’t know anywhere in the world where it is legal to break into someone’s home… but here in the US maybe in different jurisdictions. Goes against nature though. Can you take a bone away from a dog? It reacts naturally, so in some cases, do people.

Historically there were always differences in wealth among individuals. The poor traditionally want what the wealthy have. Communism tried to distribute things equally, the idea was great. Have you ever read Marx’s Manifesto?

Communist redistribution of wealth: the “government” took your home, your farm, your business, your children (literally) and gave the things to the party members. If you weren’t a party member you were out of luck, maybe even arrested. I won’t tell you what they did in prison, but I can tell you, people did not come out alive. The children were housed for schooling and brought up to turn their parents in if the parents did not support the government. How do I know? My mother was a teacher under the system. My dad was a leader in the uprising against Communism and therefore, if we wanted him to live we had to leave the country.

341 posts in less than a month. You should get out more.

I like to respond to and entertain the fellowship of the miserable. Assuming you’re a founding member. Thanks for noticing btw

I agree with the home invasion comment if the invasion is detected immediately. But, if the squatter lives in the house for several months, and the homeowner then calls the police, and the police are presented with a fake lease, the police have no way to verify the validity of the lease. This can happen when a vacant house is being sold by heirs of a deceased person. The heirs arrive from out-of-town to sell the house, but they find that someone has been living in the house. In some states, the police are not allowed to force the squatter out and it is turned over to a civil court. Then, it can takes many months for the civil court to take any action. This is just one example of how the police cannot help you.

New Name, Old poster.

So if someone responds on a forum, especially to ridiculous commentary....they’re a ‘new name, old poster’?!

This doesn’t have anything to do with you getting eviscerated on YOUR thread attempting to marginalize the TV golf pros as do nothings....is it?! Yeah, that’s what I thought

I came here to make fun of and laugh at people, it's not going to be nearly as much fun if I have to look up a bunch of big werds

I have no idea what ‘numbers’ you’re talking about. Like I said earlier, this is an interactive forum and when I see something interesting or feel like certain commentary needs to challenged, I’m all in. I’m sure for some of you resident trolls on here, that may present a problem in your small circle.

It’s amazing how geriatrics comes back to pediatrics on here.

As far as numbers go, are you one of those guys that still has your SkeeBall arcade tickets all tucked away in a ziplock bag from the 50’s?!

Lighten up Francis!

this has to be the post of the day for today, bravo

I don't know why every state doesn't do this too. I know people who've been out of their house for MONTHS!! I just shake my head....

That was for you Leroy. Enjoy the camaraderie my friend....and your sense of humor ;)

love you long time, well love you

:beer3:Yes it’s very hard to determine squatter from and intruder.:beer3:

Breaking and entering I think still crime in Florida and you have right to defend yourself. Should Include when I come home and intruder inside my house, just make sure frontal shot don’t fall out front door is some states. :)

Are you snowbird? If so you could have squatter take control while you’re gone? But 99% take over on abandoned homes. In villages pretty good record booting the few out.

Welcome To Florida... - YouTube

I think I've heard very similar thing from the Polk Cty sheriff. I love Florida.

An example of a great public servant

Self reflection is a wonderful thing...

And if you can't figure out the meaning of the gif I posted, that's on you...

Been mentioned in the not mentionable news couple times over years. Not that often. Each time sheriff’s department promptly removed them.

Thank you kind sage for reposting one of my finer posts in my short tenure on TOTV. I don’t do gif(s) btw, I let my own original thoughts and creativity speak for itself

Yeah, you might want to rethink that game plan...

GRADY JUDD----Best Sheriff in Florida.

I sent him a letter asking him to consider Lake county. I didn't get a response.

That’s it?!
You’re from DC, at least channel some of the only good to come out of there, Dave Chappelle

He doesn’t like ‘northern’ counties!

I get unreasonable amounts of joy from his press conferences.