Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 710451)

So if we went by the Comedian Bill Cosby plan there would have never been a civil rights movement? Dismissing the race debate because you can find a black person here or there who says so? Race is an issue. I think the difference between me and you is that I think there is a race issue. But, i think we can agree nothing will ever be done about it. It's as old as time, there have always been dominating races hell bent on keeping other races down, it happens in all countries. It ain't right and I wish we could change it somehow but I don't think it will ever happen. But the answer of there is not a race issue is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 710451)

So if we went by the Comedian Bill Cosby plan there would have never been a civil rights movement? Dismissing the race debate because you can find a black person here or there who says so? Race is an issue. I think the difference between me and you is that I think there is a race issue. But, i think we can agree nothing will ever be done about it. It's as old as time, there have always been dominating races hell bent on keeping other races down, it happens in all countries. It ain't right and I wish we could change it somehow but I don't think it will ever happen. But the answer of there is not a race issue is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 710451)

So if we went by the Comedian Bill Cosby plan there would have never been a civil rights movement? Dismissing the race debate because you can find a black person here or there who says so? Race is an issue. I think the difference between me and you is that I think there is a race issue. But, i think we can agree nothing will ever be done about it. It's as old as time, there have always been dominating races hell bent on keeping other races down, it happens in all countries. It ain't right and I wish we could change it somehow but I don't think it will ever happen. But the answer of there is not a race issue is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by twheel (Post 710482)

I really think you enjoy goading other posters . The only racist remarks were from Trayvons crazy ass cracker. The operator had to ask Zimmerman what color Trayvon was. And his answer was. I think he is black. How is that a race issue ?

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 710521)

It was encouraging to hear on the local NBC News tonight that several Florida legislators will be proposing changes to Florida's "stand your ground" law. No other details were given. Unfortunately, the legislative session doesn't begin until March 2014, unless a special session is called.

Will try to find a link to this late-breaking news, but will probably have to wait until tomorrow's newspaper.

Originally Posted by Suzi (Post 710541)

We need more strong, successful black leaders. Not race baiters. I'm not sure "who" I heard yesterday, but blacks represent 16% of the US population but account for over
50% of crimes. I do not feel that our President is the "role model" that I would have expected. Some would say that other presidents did not have that in his job description but, I believe, that many voted for Obama hoping that he would be a "bridge" to better race relations. I am sadly disappointed. If our president can't step up to the plate - who will? He has a perfect opportunity to change how young men "react" to cases like the acquittal of GZ, but we have not heard from him. He should be out there showing respect for the court system and he should be condemning the speeches of Al Sharpton.

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 709652)

The media and NAACP have conveniently decided to preach "the stand your ground law" that was not even invoked in the Zimmerman trial is one of the reasons young black men are getting killed. Stevie Wonder even said he won't perform in states that have a "stand your ground law".

Here's an idea - how about reforming or locking up all the gansta thugs we might need to "stand our ground" against. I am so tired of being portrayed as some "crazy ass cracker" that is running around looking for any opportunity to kill a young black man 'cause he might look suspicious. Time to look within and see where the problems really are originating from.

Put all this effort into educating these young men and give them an opportunity to have a future other than on the streets. Teach them the importance of not being a baby daddy to anyone woman that will lie down for them, but the importance of being a father to their next generation. Give them role models that aren't rappers preaching the nasty way to live and treat women. So much needs to be done in these communities and it has to start with their leaders - well I may have just answered my own question. Who and where are their leaders???

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 710464)

I offered you some more reading from some Cosby things but doubt if you will read.

I do not agree at all that nothing will ever be done as you say. Race was jacked from MLK in the 60's, inserted into a poltical movement and lost. Those who use MLK's name today have no idea of what they speak. He and others like him would be appalled at the using of his race.

No I do not agree it is hopeless.....I am confident in individual hearts and souls. If politics stay out, there is a ton of hope. Those who say what you are saying are promoting it for whatever reason......Sharpton is out of work if we get along...voters can decide issues on merits instead of skin color.

I believe it can be done, but suggest you do some reading. Normal folks are not filled with hate. The hate is spoon fed to them. No I do not agree that it is hopeless at all.

Originally Posted by Monkei (Post 710568)

You just bucked 2000+ years of humanity. I guess no one before now had ever tried? What makes you think the next 250 years will be different. I guess we could all hold hands across the world and give each other a coke.

Thanks for your understanding of my reading capabilities.