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Topspinmo 03-17-2022 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RUCdaze (Post 2073620)
I also say split the difference, and if that doesn't work for the New World Order, too bad. It's time we think of what's best for America.

That ship sailed in early 60’s.

Toymeister 03-17-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2073087)
I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

I spent years in a country that had nonstandard time, that is 30 minutes off time, not an even hour off from any other time zone. This is a horrible idea. Just look at the country that does it.

Do you really want to follow Afghanistan's example on how to determine time??

jamesdschramm 03-17-2022 09:03 AM

Time change
 
COMPROMISE Change time by 1/2 hour

JMintzer 03-17-2022 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUCdaze (Post 2073620)
I also say split the difference, and if that doesn't work for the New World Order, too bad. It's time we think of what's best for America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdschramm (Post 2073644)
COMPROMISE Change time by 1/2 hour

And be off by 30 minutes from pretty much EVERY other country in the world?

Hacker1 03-17-2022 09:54 AM

Prefer Standard Time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073060)
As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Jumping ahead an hour in Spring has always been disruptive to my system, and gets more so every year. The Fall-back not so much. I'd prefer year-round Standard time, but anything is better than switching back and forth. I don't get the "saving", as what is saved at one end of the day is given up at the other end.

gator17 03-17-2022 10:32 AM

We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-17-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Smalley (Post 2073101)
Brilliant idea to move clock 30 minutes permanently. If I had to chose, I'd opt for standard time. Love to see the light in the morning!

You might want to consider moving further east or west. Many people don't realize that we are on the edge of the Eastern time zone. Part of the Florida panhandle is in the Central time zone. That's why it stays dark so late into the morning.

First light hit's Eastport Maine at 6:00 this time of year. First light hit's Tallahassee at 7:20

Roron123 03-17-2022 10:50 AM

I prefer DST which means I can still walk my dogs AFTER my golf game LOL

DaleDivine 03-17-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2073141)
DST for sure like the extra hour of daylight at night

ME TOO..
:clap2::clap2::clap2:

DaleDivine 03-17-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gator17 (Post 2073688)
We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

They never told me that BS.:ohdear::ohdear:
Children go to school in the dark already under Standard Time.
:shocked::shocked:

jimjamuser 03-17-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2073087)
I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

I never thought much about it one way or the other. I have heard that farmers in the Midwest never liked DST. I guess that I would go with whichever one was the most energy-efficient. I think that the greater issue is the Metric system vs the English system (which can now be called only the US system). We seem out of place with the modern world.

meme5x 03-17-2022 02:11 PM

Time change
 
Please, DST…so enjoy the light at the end of the day

JMintzer 03-17-2022 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gator17 (Post 2073688)
We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?

bark4me 03-17-2022 06:04 PM

I agree with you. Rather it get dark later. DST

La lamy 03-17-2022 06:55 PM

I prefer standard. I like to work out on the court as early as possible.

nevjudbaker 03-17-2022 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073060)
As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

DLST to keep. We always have an extra hour of daylight in the evening.

Incoblack1 03-17-2022 10:33 PM

DST all year - more light in the evening would make me happy!
 
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Originally Posted by nevjudbaker (Post 2073858)
DLST to keep. We always have an extra hour of daylight in the evening.

DST - more light in the evening hours makes more sense to me!

asianthree 03-18-2022 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2073809)
I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?

It’s in the same article that the author “walked 5 miles to school, up hill, in 5 feet of snow” :1rotfl:

coffeebean 03-18-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gemini5001 (Post 2073562)
Move to Alaska if you want darkness.

I think you have that backwards. There is more sunlight in Alaska, not darkness. For example......

Alaska Sunrise & Sunset Times

Date July 15
Twilight Begin 3:21 AM
Sunset 11:16 PM

coffeebean 03-18-2022 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2073658)
And be off by 30 minutes from pretty much EVERY other country in the world?

Giving this idea more thought and agree with you........30 minutes off from most every other country is not a good idea at all.

coffeebean 03-18-2022 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2073809)
I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?


Year-round daylight saving time could affect health, education, and more

Bay Kid 03-18-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073931)

Changing time twice a year is bad for our health. Dad is confused enough.

Just leave it the same all year, whether standard or daylight savings time.

swissy 03-18-2022 02:52 PM

DST forever! I love the extra hour of daylight in the evening, despite the time difference makes me 1 hour older. :shocked:

Fredman 03-19-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalley (Post 2073101)
Brilliant idea to move clock 30 minutes permanently. If I had to chose, I'd opt for standard time. Love to see the light in the morning!

Get up later

JMintzer 03-19-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073931)

So, The "Academy of Sleep Medicine" speaks for all of medicine?

coffeebean 03-19-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2074270)
So, The "Academy of Sleep Medicine" speaks for all of medicine?

This is just one article. There must be plenty more. You can look it up if you like.

JMintzer 03-19-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2074301)
This is just one article. There must be plenty more. You can look it up if you like.

I did. And I didn't find much...

patfla06 03-19-2022 04:04 PM

I like Daylight Savings Time, like it getting darker later since I’m a Night Owl.

DaleDivine 03-19-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2073879)
It’s in the same article that the author “walked 5 miles to school, up hill, in 5 feet of snow” :1rotfl:

You forgot "barefoot"
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 03-20-2022 06:51 AM

I was sitting next to 2 couples at dinner last night, listening to them discuss DST...

The amount of misinformation spewing from this one lady was staggering. She was pontificating about "biorhythms" and how important they are and that they never change... I guess she didn't realize that people move all the time. Across the country, across the globe, and that their biorhythms adjust to their new environment...

She then went on to talk about how dogs have no memory, that they just "live in the moment"...

Her dinner companions just sat there, nodding in agreement...

Half way thru dinner, my eye was twitching, and my tongue was bleeding from me biting it... :icon_wink:

charmed59 03-20-2022 08:33 AM

I’m worried that permanent DST would take away activity availability during the high season.

Let’s start with golf.

Right now the first tee time is pretty much at sunrise. If sunrise is 7:30 the first tee time is 7:30. If sunrise is 8:20, like it would be in January if we kept DST year round, the first tee time is 50 minutes later. Happy hour still starts at 5pm. We just lose those 6 morning tee times on every course every day. For those counting, that’s 240 executive course tee times lost per day.

Now let’s move on to Pickleball. Open play pickle ball is from sunrise to 10am. As far as I can tell this is when the serious advanced pickleballers play. At 10am courts start being designated by level so beginner or advanced beginner can find their folks. Some courts are reserved for leagues starting at 10am. So year round DST will shorten open play to 90 minutes in the high season.

DST doesn’t add more daylight, it just steals it from the morning and adds it to the evening. If you like evening activities it helps. If you like morning outdoor activities it takes away an hour.

Topspinmo 04-24-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 2074656)
I’m worried that permanent DST would take away activity availability during the high season.

Let’s start with golf.

Right now the first tee time is pretty much at sunrise. If sunrise is 7:30 the first tee time is 7:30. If sunrise is 8:20, like it would be in January if we kept DST year round, the first tee time is 50 minutes later. Happy hour still starts at 5pm. We just lose those 6 morning tee times on every course every day. For those counting, that’s 240 executive course tee times lost per day.

Now let’s move on to Pickleball. Open play pickle ball is from sunrise to 10am. As far as I can tell this is when the serious advanced pickleballers play. At 10am courts start being designated by level so beginner or advanced beginner can find their folks. Some courts are reserved for leagues starting at 10am. So year round DST will shorten open play to 90 minutes in the high season.

DST doesn’t add more daylight, it just steals it from the morning and adds it to the evening. If you like evening activities it helps. If you like morning outdoor activities it takes away an hour.

Agree…

Actually open play pickleball starts at 8 to 10 am and courts are closed until 7am do to the noise in certain areas.

I’m retired so time or time changes really don’t affect me.

tvbound 04-25-2022 11:25 AM

I'm not a morning person, so I much prefer to go to year around DST. I think the overall preference, really boils down to whether someone is a morning or night person.

MrFlorida 04-25-2022 12:32 PM

DST, for me.


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