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graciegirl 12-04-2015 05:04 PM
Who is to decide WHAT is far afield? I believe we need to take off our gloves once in awhile and say what it is we feel and fear and believe in. Here in this country that guarantees us the freedom of speech we are getting pretty close to hog tied with political correctness.

And I so believe in rules and in being nice. Although I don't always follow the rules and am not always nice.

dbussone 12-04-2015 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1154288)
I heard it referenced again last night but haven't tried to find it. It is from George Washington University? I think I got that right. Where is that?

GWU is in Washington DC. It is generally considered to be a very good university - but there is no accounting for taste I guess. However I can say that they have a very good medical school.

tomwed 12-04-2015 07:54 PM
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...itten-b/180401

I don't feel like reading it. This looks like the study.

DeanFL 12-04-2015 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1153947)
By IT, I mean the terroristic, barbaric acts toward Americans. Yesterdays mass shooting was the beginning of future things to happen to America. Whether it be a lone wolf, a couple (as it appears was yesterday) or a cell, these Islamic extremists hate Americans enough to kill us whenever they see fit. Even though we're relatively isolated from things like this here in TV (I truly hope), be aware of your surroundings and familiarize yourselves with exits of building you are in just in case the unthinkable happens. This is not a call to be alarmed, it's a call to take care of yourselves.

And to the King and Queen of TOTV, who have live here for years and years, you both realize we don't actually live under a bubble and things do happen here?
"IT" actually started many many years ago - most Americans don't know this (I didn't until last month):

The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Tripolitanian War and the Barbary Coast War, was the first of two Barbary Wars between the United States and the four North African Muslim states known collectively as the "Barbary States". Three of these were nominal provinces of the Ottoman Empire, but in practice autonomous: Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. The fourth was the independent Sultanate of Morocco.[2] The cause of the war was pirates from the Barbary States seizing American merchant ships and holding the crews for ransom, demanding the U.S. pay tribute to the Barbary rulers. United States President Thomas Jefferson refused to pay this tribute.

If you're REALLY interested there's a very long description of these events here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

onslowe 12-04-2015 08:43 PM
I know there's no 'King and Queen of TOTV." There are, however, definitely a whole lot of men and women here who are friendly and classy, and would that there were more. :)

outlaw 12-05-2015 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1154594)
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...itten-b/180401

I don't feel like reading it. This looks like the study.
"Right-Wing Media Hype Mosque Study Co-Written By Anti-Muslim Activist With History Of "Bigotry". Riiight.

graciegirl 12-05-2015 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1154594)
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...itten-b/180401

I don't feel like reading it. This looks like the study.


"Media Matters for America is a
Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation
in the U.S. media."



Your link is from a bunch who are way over on the other side...WAY over on the other side. I would not trust their opinion either.

JoelJohnson 12-05-2015 09:24 AM
Let's not forget that one on the worst terrorist attacks in this country was on a fed building in OK, He was an American.

In this world there are a lot of good people and a few (very few) bad people that get the headlines.

I, for one, am not afraid of a terrorist attack. I will live my life as I always have ... free.

outlaw 12-05-2015 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1154733)
Let's not forget that one on the worst terrorist attacks in this country was on a fed building in OK, He was an American.

In this world there are a lot of good people and a few (very few) bad people that get the headlines.

I, for one, am not afraid of a terrorist attack. I will live my life as I always have ... free.
Uh, Syed was also an American. Born and raised in the USA.

graciegirl 12-05-2015 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1154733)
Let's not forget that one on the worst terrorist attacks in this country was on a fed building in OK, He was an American.

In this world there are a lot of good people and a few (very few) bad people that get the headlines.
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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1154733)

I, for one, am not afraid of a terrorist attack. I will live my life as I always have ... free.
That was a few years back. We are now facing new issues and new threats in this country. People used the Oklahoma bombing to debate the seriousness of the Tsaranov brothers attack on the Boston Marathon that killed a villager's grandson and blew the leg off his seven year old granddaughter. The bomber in Oklahoma was Christian if you want to reach for it, but not using his religion as a motive.


Today is today. I am glad you are not afraid but most people are.

Walt. 12-05-2015 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1154733)
Let's not forget that one on the worst terrorist attacks in this country was on a fed building in OK, He was an American.
I don't know what the relevance is... but, then again, I also don't know why someone brought up the Crusades a short time ago. At least nobody has blamed Halliburton or the Koch brothers... yet. Somebody other than the actual terrorists/murderers has surely got to be at fault... Tea Party maybe?

NotGolfer 12-05-2015 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1154203)
Sorry, but IT has been going on for over thirty years now.

Most people won't admit or don't believe it, but we are in the middle of World War 3.

It's just not the U.S that being attacked it's the entire western world. By an enemy that is not in uniform and not fighting under a flag. London Subway Bombing, Russian Airliner, and the Paris attacks are just a few recent examples of this war that started way back in the eighties with events like the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut.
I believe you're correct on this!! There will be escalating events...we, in the West, have been warned!! Wasn't that said a couple of times "over there"---the latest event "over there" being the Paris shootings!!?? People will wake up eventually but by then it may be too late!

Challenger 12-05-2015 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1154838)
I believe you're correct on this!! There will be escalating events...we, in the West, have been warned!! Wasn't that said a couple of times "over there"---the latest event "over there" being the Paris shootings!!?? People will wake up eventually but by then it may be too late!
Religious terrorism has been with us always, Read -Old Testament and find the many times that the "Lord" directed that all men, women, children , dogs etc were to be put to the sword for "religious reasons".
We must fight radical religious terrorism wherever it raises its head and yes it is a war. A war against tolerant peoples and societies.
Under the right circumstances and led by charismatic demagogues this kind of fascism would arise in America.
At the present it is Islamic Radicalism that is plaguing us and we need to stamp it out without sacrificing our morals and ideals. Tomorrow who know what group will adopt the principal of infallibility and decide to cleanse the world oh heretics???

Justus 12-05-2015 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Walt. (Post 1154818)
I don't know what the relevance is... but, then again, I also don't know why someone brought up the Crusades a short time ago. At least nobody has blamed Halliburton or the Koch brothers... yet. Somebody other than the actual terrorists/murderers has surely got to be at fault... Tea Party maybe?
I actually heard that in some quarters, the culprit has been identified as global warming brought on by us "wasteful" Americans.

kittygilchrist 12-05-2015 07:43 PM
Just home from a Bible prophecy conference...
Without an understanding of the spiritual foundation of what is happening, we have no clue.


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