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retiredguy123 05-02-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 1757711)
How do figure this happens if work is available you can't choose to sit home and not go back.

The CARES Act changed the rules for unemployment compensation. As I understand it, the employee can choose to not go back to work. They can even quit and still collect unemployment until the end of July.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-02-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1757659)
Well, you can mark me down as someone who is not okay with sending $1,200 of taxpayer money to dead people who are not eligible for it, and whose relatives or whoever has access to the account can keep the money and spend it. Yes, I am complaining about that.

Also, passing a law that gives employees more income to sit home and not work, even if their employers have work for them to do. So, the employer needs to hire a new employee to replace the employee who is being paid more money to not work. I am complaining about that too.

Once again - this fake news goes around. Try and keep up -

Employees don't get more money to sit home and not work, even if their employers have work for them to do.

If they are recalled to their jobs and refuse to go, their unemployment is CUT OFF and they risk having to repay whatever they already received. It is a potential consequence of refusing to return to work.

retiredguy123 05-02-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1757736)
Once again - this fake news goes around. Try and keep up -

Employees don't get more money to sit home and not work, even if their employers have work for them to do.

If they are recalled to their jobs and refuse to go, their unemployment is CUT OFF and they risk having to repay whatever they already received. It is a potential consequence of refusing to return to work.

Not fake news. Here are the special eligibility "loopholes" to collect unemployment benefits under the CARES Act.

To be eligible for this special expansion of benefits, individuals must provide self-certification to the state that they are (1) partially or fully unemployed, or (2) unable and unavailable to work because:

1. They have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or have symptoms of it and seeking diagnosis.
2. A member of their household has been diagnosed with COVID-19.
3. They are providing care for a family or household member diagnosed with COVID-19.
4. A child or other person in the household for whom they have primary caregiving responsibility is unable to attend school or another facility that is closed as a direct result of the COVID-19 health emergency, and such school or facility care is required for the individual to work.
5. They cannot reach the place of employment because of a quarantine imposed as a direct result of the COVID-19 health emergency.
6. They were scheduled to start employment and do not have a job or cannot reach their place of employment as a result of the COVID-19 public health emergency.
7. They have become the breadwinner or major support for a household because the head of household has died as a direct result of COVID-19.
8. They had to quit their job as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency.
9. Their place of employment is closed as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency.
10. They meet other criteria established by the Secretary of Labor.

Can anyone cite a specific example where someone collecting unemployment benefits under the CARES Act had their benefits CUT OFF?

nn0wheremann 05-02-2020 10:02 PM

A friend of mine in Texas got one for his deceased mother. He did some research. The law was passed without a claw-back provision. He deposited it into his mother's estate's bank account. Just another instance where Congress has stopped doing its job, writing legislation, and handed it over to the lobbyists, while they vote for bills they have not even bothered to read. Lunacy!!!

Nucky 05-02-2020 10:18 PM

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dpmers 05-02-2020 11:40 PM

We filed and paid our 18 & 19 income tax, didnt earn anything near the $150K. Never had a refund, hence the IRS has no router # or acct #, but they send SS checks direct deposit. Still no stimulus check. Govt at its best!!

Bill32 05-03-2020 08:43 AM

recieved my moms this week, checked the box on the envelope and sent it back....she passed in Jan 2020...

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 1757808)
We filed and paid our 18 & 19 income tax, didnt earn anything near the $150K. Never had a refund, hence the IRS has no router # or acct #, but they send SS checks direct deposit. Still no stimulus check. Govt at its best!!

You'll get a stimulus check after everyone who provided their bank info gets theirs. You should check with the IRS.gov website under "get my payment" and input your social security number, birthdate, and address. If you're eligible, it'll change to a different web page that says so and offers you the opportunity to input your bank account info.

Once you do that, your info will be processed and within a couple of weeks you'll get a notification verifying a date that the funds will be electronically deposited into your account.

OR - you can do nothing, and within the next few months, you'll get a paper check.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1757763)
Not fake news. Here are the special eligibility "loopholes" to collect unemployment benefits under the CARES Act.

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Can anyone cite a specific example where someone collecting unemployment benefits under the CARES Act had their benefits CUT OFF?

If a state rescinds their state's emergency and says "our state is now back open, you may all return to work" then...

Anyone who has NOT been diagnosed or has symptoms and seeking diagnosis, whose household has NOT experienced COVID-19 - and therefore has not had anyone in the household die as a result of it...

will not be eligible because the state has declared that businesses are now open for employment again and that means #4 is no longer applicable, neither is #5, or #6, or #8, or #9.

And therefore - if they refuse to return to work when called back, their claim for unemployment is invalidated.

retiredguy123 05-03-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1758004)
If a state rescinds their state's emergency and says "our state is now back open, you may all return to work" then...

Anyone who has NOT been diagnosed or has symptoms and seeking diagnosis, whose household has NOT experienced COVID-19 - and therefore has not had anyone in the household die as a result of it...

will not be eligible because the state has declared that businesses are now open for employment again and that means #4 is no longer applicable, neither is #5, or #6, or #8, or #9.

And therefore - if they refuse to return to work when called back, their claim for unemployment is invalidated.

Technically, I agree. But, to me, the key phrase is "self certification". And, these special rules only apply until the end of July. I don't think many employers are going to want to force employees to come back who don't want to work. I guess we will see how aggressive the rules are enforced, especially since most of the money comes from Federal funds.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-03-2020 10:28 AM

Irs
 
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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1757201)
He died in 2018. He wasn’t alive when it was approved.

Since 2010 congress which was under republican control has made cuts in IRS budget that adjusted for inflation equal 25% and have limit d staffing for enforcement by 1/3 even the president has said we maybe have gone to far , many of you want government out of your life and now complain that the government can’t get a massive project done in record time without some mistakes, just check the box
and maybe think about the hard job there doing

OhioBuckeye 05-03-2020 11:01 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Sail41 (Post 1757051)
If he was alive when they approved the payments, I would think the estate is still entitled to the money.

That’s correct!

Number 10 GI 05-03-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1757175)
When has the govt ever efficiently spent our money?

The government is very efficient at spending money, it lacks judgement when it comes to spending it wisely.

Shutterbug 05-03-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1757115)
I agree but his check was marked DECEASED. DECEASED are not supposed to get checks. It's not like he passed away a month or 2 ago and the gov't records updates were still in limbo it's been close to 2.5 YEARS.

Edit: Can you imagine the financial loss if every deceased person who died sometime in 2018 (had a 2018 tax form filed) got a $1200 check? It seems likely that is what could have happened because it makes no sense they just randomly in error chose him.

All you have to do is let your deceased father vote in November.

JP 05-03-2020 07:30 PM

I got a check addressed to my deceased Mom at her Village address but it also had my name on it. She died March, 2018. Like everyone else on this post says, the check has dcsd after her name. I'm just going to keep it as a memento of these times.

Fredman 05-04-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosie1950 (Post 1757228)
I personally think the post is BULL, It would have been more believable if the poster had included a snap shot of this infamous CHECK! I also believe that CHECKS are NOT going out till ALL direct deposits are complete.
This post was a try at Political Trolling and it evidently wasn’t a try it worked!

I could however believe that people that are dying currently from anything would get a deposit because undertakers supply the government that social security #s are no longer valid. I believe undertakers are overwhelmed in quite a few areas!
Look what happened in NY with 60 bodies found in U Hauls, ya think that undertaker reported SS #s? They didn’t report they were overwhelmed.

Sorry but you are wrong about the correctness of the post. My deceased mother-in-law also received a stimulus check.

mydavid 05-04-2020 12:07 PM

I doubt that's true.

gsmchugh 05-05-2020 10:50 AM

My mother died in 2018. My father just received a combined stimulus check for 2,400 that clearly indicated with a DECD on the check. What should he do with the check being that he is only entitled to 1,200?

retiredguy123 05-05-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gsmchugh (Post 1759295)
My mother died in 2018. My father just received a combined stimulus check for 2,400 that clearly indicated with a DECD on the check. What should he do with the check being that he is only entitled to 1,200?

The current advice is to hold on to the money until the Government issues specific guidance on what to do.

Topspinmo 05-05-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1757184)
I get that the government was under pressure to act quickly, however even with the need to move with alacrity someone should have defined the business rules for generating checks and verified that they were incorporated into the system.

I've consulted with the NSA, DOD, EPA and will tell you that the folks in the higher levels are really bright and on the ball...but many of the 'worker-bees' under them are just going through the motions and know that they have a job for life no matter what they do / don't do.

Really, most was put in position through nepotism or political appointments don’t have clue what worker bee’s are doing.

Topspinmo 05-05-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1758073)
Since 2010 congress which was under republican control has made cuts in IRS budget that adjusted for inflation equal 25% and have limit d staffing for enforcement by 1/3 even the president has said we maybe have gone to far , many of you want government out of your life and now complain that the government can’t get a massive project done in record time without some mistakes, just check the box
and maybe think about the hard job there doing

Congress should of got rid Of IRS and when to flat tax with no deductions for the wealthy. Politicians lawyers make tax laws for who every lobbied the most.

gsmchugh 05-06-2020 08:12 AM

Thanks.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-06-2020 08:45 AM

Our stimulus funds were deposited in our bank account this morning, yay! Already spent some of it last night at Gator's Dockside and gave our waitress almost 50% tip - we were her first customer since returning to work and we wanted her to celebrate it. Plus she gave us ice cream to celebrate our anniversary!

Bay Kid 05-07-2020 07:23 AM

My friends father died last year. The estate paid taxes last year and received a stimulus check. The CPA told them to keep the money.

polaris 05-07-2020 07:43 AM

The IRS has issued guidance for returning stimulus checks.

Economic Impact Payment Information Center | Internal Revenue Service

Scroll down to Q41 for the information.

Decadeofdave 05-07-2020 08:30 AM

I got my father's check also. Passed Jan 2019. (94 years)This is proves the government is not a good steward with our money.


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