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villagetinker 03-16-2025 08:49 AM

All, thank you for the comments and information. I have never been in a Tesla or any other EV, and I was taking the "one pedal driving" literally. The clarification on having a brake pedal and hydraulics for applying the brakes manually is appreciated. Yes, I used the term "locking the wheels" and yes you are correct the ABS will override causing the brakes to rapidly go on and off. I have had this happen once, interesting experience. In any case this was an interesting discussion.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-16-2025 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2416415)
Tesla are as advanced as golf cars. And just like golf cars, they have 2 pedals. And drive like golf cars, electric golf cars anyhow.
Still the 2 pedals. Getting off the gas, er, acceleration pedal will give you some regenerative braking. But the second pedal will also apply the fully functional hydraulic brakes. A good thing since ev cars weigh on average 1000 pounds more than a gas car.
But unlike a golf car, Tesla also has accident avoidance braking. If the cars radar sees an object coming that you will hit, it can emergency brake on its own.

You mean like the Village resident who drove her tesla out of her driveway and right into the wall of her neighbor's house? Fun times.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-16-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting (Post 2416461)
Quite Intrigued
SO WHERE EXACTLY do you
receive FREE ELECTRICITY
and
PLEASE EXPLAIN “FULL TANK”
(as though audience is in 2nd grade)

The pedal that you push with your foot to make the EV go isn't called a gas pedal, since there's no gas in an EV. Instead, it's called a regenerative accelerator. It's called that, because when you take your foot off of it to slow down, it engages a battery-charging (regenerating) process.

The "full tank" reference is to the batteries, comparing them to a gas tank. While you're home, NOT using your car which is plugged into the wall socket somewhere, your vehicle is charging up. By the time you wake up in the morning it's "full" and ready to use. You never have to worry about waking up in the morning with a need to go to the gas station. Your "tank" (battery) is already full (fully charged).

Ski Bum 03-16-2025 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2416464)
All, thank you for the comments and information. I have never been in a Tesla or any other EV, and I was taking the "one pedal driving" literally. The clarification on having a brake pedal and hydraulics for applying the brakes manually is appreciated. Yes, I used the term "locking the wheels" and yes you are correct the ABS will override causing the brakes to rapidly go on and off. I have had this happen once, interesting experience. In any case this was an interesting discussion.

I thought it curious that part of the periodic maintenance is to actuate and lubricate the brake system. Since you can actually drive it without touching the brakes, they need exercised periodically.

Runway48 03-16-2025 10:30 AM

I've had performance cars my entire life. I've enjoyed the sound, the crisp sensation of shifting gears, speed and the feeling of being mechanically involved with the car. For me it makes driving somewhere fun, but I realize this is not for everyone. I feel a level of boredom when driving a car with an automatic transmission (not much choice these days) and really dislike CVT. My current car is supercharged with a dual clutch transmission, very fast but gets 30 mpg on highway. My son has a model Y. I drove it and have to say it was a good experience. It has great acceleration (0-60 in under 5 sec). It took me about two miles to get comfortable with one pedal driving, but the brake pedal worked perfectly when needed. I was also impressed with the usable interior space and with minimal conversion the car has impressive cargo space. It can transport his family of five with luggage to the airport for a cross-country flight and he has used it to go to Home Depot for building and garden supplies. I think EVs like this are an excellent choice for a local vehicle that is driven not much more than 200 miles in a day. For most people this probably covers 95% of their driving. But the infrastructure is not there to support convenient use of these vehicles across the country, and they have serious limitations in cold weather. I rented a plug-in hybrid in California recently. I expected keeping it charged would have been easy in that state. I had to hunt to find a charger. They were amazingly sparse, many where inoperable or occupied. I was glad I had a hybrid so I get gas to keep going and this was in California where no ICE vehicles will be sold in 10 yrs. Hard to see how that's going to work out.

Pugchief 03-16-2025 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Runway48 (Post 2416503)
I had to hunt to find a charger. They were amazingly sparse, many where inoperable or occupied. I was glad I had a hybrid so I get gas to keep going and this was in California where no ICE vehicles will be sold in 10 yrs. Hard to see how that's going to work out.

It's not going to work out. Not without major changes to infrastructure (ha!) and battery technology (maybe). But that doesn't seem to concern them.

I own 2 Teslas and I love them. But I have a garage where I can plug in overnight and I rarely drive more than 50 miles in a day. Good luck if you live in an apartment in a crowded city and have to commute 100 miles each way.

bagboy 03-16-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2416470)
You mean like the Village resident who drove her tesla out of her driveway and right into the wall of her neighbor's house? Fun times.

That incident made me much more aware of who is driving what in local parking lots. We are always careful, but I want no part of being in front or behind an electric vehicle when they are starting to move, or ready to back up.

Aces4 03-16-2025 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2416470)
You mean like the Village resident who drove her tesla out of her driveway and right into the wall of her neighbor's house? Fun times.

We've been telling family and friends for over 10 years... NEVER stand in any area behind or in front of an old person when they are moving their car to leave or arriving! It's Russian roulette to do so, particularly in a cloistered community for old people.:22yikes:

Topspinmo 03-16-2025 12:20 PM

One thing I don’t like about most new ICE cars no manual emergency brake lever. You flip or push a button. I always felt the manual emergency brake was for when you have brake failure so you can control manually apply brakes to rear wheels. I guess I’m too old fashioned, if something not broke why fix it? Just like fuel injection, why squirt fuel below valves knowing it going to cause carbon build up on intake valve at more rapid pace? For what? .03 more miles per gallon? I remember in early 90s when automatic locking doors was introduced, not long before people couldn’t escape vehicle when something happened like engine fuel injector leak fire?

As for electric car I doubt at my age I will ever own one. My 12 year old Honda still runs like new.

Topspinmo 03-16-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2416525)
We've been telling family and friends for over 10 years... NEVER stand in any area behind or in front of an old person when they are moving their car to leave or arriving! It's Russian roulette to do so, particularly in a cloistered community for old people.:22yikes:

Funny thing about old? we? well most all of us may get there and they won’t be standing in front of us? :wine:

Aces4 03-16-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2416527)
Funny thing about old? we? well most all of us may get there and they won’t be standing in front of us? :wine:

If you're over 55, one qualifies. Even more so if one's an elbow bender for entertainment. Years ago and while in a parking lot my father almost lost his life to an older person backing out of a space. Their group of 4 was getting ready to enter their vehicle when the car came screaming across the lane and hit the car after my father pushed his brother out of the way. The vehicle did run across his feet and skinned his legs. He knows he's just missed meeting his maker by inches. That sort of thing happens far more often than it should, look at the buildings getting creamed by an older person.

I forgot to add... that accident happened in Florida.

Topspinmo 03-16-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2416539)
If you're over 55, one qualifies. Even more so if one's an elbow bender for entertainment. Years ago and while in a parking lot my father almost lost his life to an older person backing out of a space. Their group of 4 was getting ready to enter their vehicle when the car came screaming across the lane and hit the car after my father pushed his brother out of the way. The vehicle did run across his feet and skinned his legs. He knows he's just missed meeting his maker by inches. That sort of thing happens far more often than it should, look at the buildings getting creamed by an older person.

I forgot to add... that accident happened in Florida.

As kid in 1963 I remember when old town banker ran his Buick Electra through garage and out in back yard creating car port.. :faint:

DAVIDW5084 03-16-2025 02:28 PM

Tesla braking
 
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2416361)
OK, you are driving 55 to 60 MPH on 44 and someone pulls out in front of you, and your car has ONE PEDAL operation, how do you slam on the brakes to avoid the crash? Follow-up question, since the car has one pedal operation does it have hydraulic brakes, I am sure regenerative braking cannot lock the wheels. I can more or less understand one pedal operation for normal driving, but i fail to see how this operates in an emergency situation.

All Teslas have a brake pedal which you can use if you feel the need or during an emergency, however, the car systems will sense and react to a vehicle pulling into your path quicker than you can apply the brake pedal. The car with brake itself, apply the brakes mechanically, to make an emergency stop and or the car will move to avoid the impending crash. Regenerative braking can be used for most stops and so there is no need under normal operation to use the brake pedal and as the brakes are applied less often there is very little wear on the disk brakes.

Tvflguy 03-16-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ski Bum (Post 2416501)
I thought it curious that part of the periodic maintenance is to actuate and lubricate the brake system. Since you can actually drive it without touching the brakes, they need exercised periodically.

Teslas are very smart. They sense when the pads may be wet and pulsate the brakes slightly to ensure they are perfect if needed. And even if not wet it’s programmed to exercise the hydraulic braking system occasionally. The tech is simply amazing. It’s so comforting knowing all the tech involved. And that over-the-air SW updates arrive when needed.

keithbloemendaal 03-17-2025 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Corney (Post 2416443)
We are thinking about getting a lithium golf cart. What golf cart did you go with?

I am about to list my 2023 Club Car Tempo Lithium with 450mi.


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