I didn't love any of them. I especially didn't love SpaceX, Neuralink, X Corp, or xAI. Tesla showed promise but when he took it over he turned it into nothing more than a marketing strategy for waste. You can't say you're in favor of green policy, while spending billions on a rocket and rocket fuel to put an automobile into orbit. I mean, you can say that, but you wouldn't be telling the truth. You've just be pulling another Musk.

Didn’t Elon promise that self driving will be here next year in: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2023? Just asking…..

He hasn't invented anything. He bought companies that created products invented by other people.

The answer is yes in most cases. I drive my Tesla Mod Y everyday, all trips in FSD. It truly is amazing in what it already does - many Tesla driving skills and reactions are better than mine. But it is still a supervised version because they are still workin on a few issues. I have owned my Tesla for a year and the amount of upgrades to the software downloaded is truly remarkable, and free. Back out of garage is not yet functional but coming. But from the time you put the car in forward motion, you can click into FSD and away you go. All the way to your destination, passing slower vehicles, it will avoid obstacles (stopped cars, people, bikes, etc) by signaling and pulling into the other lane when free, it does a super job in the roundabouts, and understands all speed signs, stop signs, and all colors of traffic lights. When you get to your destination, it will take you to a drop off point - sometimes it needs help with this - but then you can get out and it will go park itself AND when you come out, you can SUMMON the car and it will come back right to you wherever you are (to your phone). Just hitch a ride with a Tesla owner and you will absolutely flip - it can already drive better than most adults no matter what their age, always puts on turn signals, and picks its way into moving traffic like a dream. All of us in TV know that Tesla does not yet negotiate the gates correctly. But we have been assured that is coming. So when you approach the gate, you take over by tapping the brake lightly, then when you are through you just engage FSD again and relax. As far as expense, look at the new Teslas coming out (Tesla 2), for around $13,000. Too expensive still??? And there is more I haven't even touched. :BigApplause:

Maybe safer than air control towers at this point...

I have macular degeneration…..intermediate stage. I’ll always have peripheral vision, but could lose my central vision.
I’ll still be able to drive for several years. I’m thrilled that self driving technology is continuing to improve so I’ll be able to maintain my independence.
Self driving car or taxi….one is in my future

driverless semi's
 

They have put driverless semi's on Hwy 45 between Dallas and Houston for a test!

OMG. Not factual at all. Check the truth. He is a rocket scientist by self learning. Same for developing EV to the masses. A true genius. The uninformed do not know the truth. Only listen to falsehoods spread by hateful vindictive media. Do yourself a favor and do some independent research.

I've heard that these systems are challenged by weather conditions where there is reduced visibility (e.g. rain, fog, snow). I know, so are humans. But what is your experience with FSD in dealing with weather situations? Thanks.

Actually that’s not true. Tesla Autopilot can go up to 90 mph on highways regardless of the speed limit and up to 5 mph above the speed limit on road without a central divider. It simply can react quickly, avoid distractions, and react consistently than a human driver in various situations.

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Very excited about FSD. Have ridden in another owners's Tesla and it worked better than I imagined. Wondering what kind of charging setup Villagers are using? Just plugging into household for show charge or bringing in an electrician to install the fast charge in garage ? Anyone plus solar panels on roof just for Tesla charging ?

What about the dead driver that was in Florida on FSD on the interstate that was killed when the FSD changed lanes into the side of a flatbed trailer? What about the couple that was killed near Ocala on I 75 that were killed when the FSD went into the rest stop exit at full speed and rammed into a parked semi?

For one, I am all in, with the increased shaking on my hands some day I won't be able to drive myself. Sure someone will drive me as a care giver, even so I not ready for that or to surrender my long fought for freedom. If can continue to to be for just a few more years and have the mobility that I have always enjoyed I'll take either the RoboTaxi or my own Tesla with the 8K FSD addon to drive my butt around. Robo Taxi's will probably safer that most drivers around here anyways. Sorry if I hurt some feelings but this is my reality.

So bring it on Tesla Fill "The Villages" with Robotaxi's!

I was referring to the thousands in TV who are incapable of driving AS FAST AS the speed limit. ie: doing 35 in a 45 on 466.

There is a website that counts Tesla deaths. It reports that since 2013 there have been 674 total deaths including 54 related to Autopilot (which would include FSD). I found the I75 crash in that list but couldn't identify the "changed lanes" event.

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration there were over 45,000 traffic deaths in 2022 alone.

Tesla seems to account for a very small percentage of traffic deaths.
Autopilot accounts for less than 10% of deaths involving a Tesla.

I don't know if there was any analysis to determine in how many of those Tesla Autopilot deaths the driver was NOT properly supervising the vehicle. Certainly, taking an exit at full speed and crashing into the back of a parked semi would make it seem like the driver wasn't paying attention.

Tesla FSD Update
 

I found this about Tesla FSD Updates and the other RoboTaxi's competing with Tesla

https://youtu.be/9Q6CUscgUVc?si=rhDI71a4WED7EUzl

Watch if you want, No haters need reply.

Isn't it just amazing that none of this hate was visible 5 years ago?:popcorn:

I couldn't stand him then either. But it wasn't a topic of discussion here on this forum 5 years ago.

Right... and all those who just can't stand him felt no compulsion to mention it then. :evil6:

Yes he's read tons of books about rocket science and can probably teach it at a university.

But he didn't develop EV to the masses or to anyone else. He FUNDED Tesla Motors and eventually ousted one of its founders. He then poured more money into it. His primary role in Tesla was to pay for it, not to develop anything at all. He stayed out of the day-to-day business of it entirely. He had people for that, and they did all the work.

Most of his companies were simply bought by him, and he plays no active role in the hands-on product development.

I still wouldn't buy anything he sold. I don't trust self-piloting cars, and I don't trust people who have major investments in companies that manufacture them, to tell anyone the truth if something goes wrong.

I especially don't trust people who have billions of dollars invested in companies, with government contracts worth more billions of dollars, while at the same time being tasked by the same government to "cut waste" while acquiring more government contracts.

I did. Just not to you. Most people don't feel compelled to express their distaste for people they don't like, 24/7. Most people just live their lives and if it comes up in conversation, will offer their opinion. I like to call it this big beautiful word - "civilized."

I've been seeing similar comments for at least five years. Not surprisingly, the comments have increased now due to his increased public exposure.

Exactly, there were similar comments few and far between. He wasn't really on my radar 5 years ago, other than reading about his accomplishments here and there. I can't say he's really on my radar now other than noticing the large increase in hate hyperbole and actions recently.

I think it's amazing how it was live and live at one point and now how venom is the action of the day.

I think you just exposed the problem with that statement. Thank you.

One of the problems with putting oneself in the public eye is the public will see
You can't please all of the people all of the time
Actions have consequences