The Wampanoag tribe were almost completely obliterated in Patuxet by smallpox before the settlers got to the abandoned village.

Fun fact: they weren't called Pilgrims, at the time. The word "pilgrims" was used as an adjective, to describe the activity of the Settlers, who a guy named Bradford said went on a pilgrimage. The word Pilgrims (capital P) as a collective name for these settlers started in the 1790's, around 150 years after the settlers settled in Plymouth Colony.

Hope the Sox can sign Bogarts and Devers, but not sure what that has to do with Thanksgiving?

The pilgrims and native Americans did indeed share in the feast but they natives were not initially invited. The pilgrim men were engaging in several contests one of which was a shooting contest. Several native men came over to see what all of the noise was about. Once they saw that it was a celebration, they left and returned with the rest of their tribe who brought several deer to the feast and were welcomed by the pilgrims.

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another sign of the times. We can't even enjoy Thanksgiving. It seems that everything we have ever held to be true or close to our hearts is being torn down or destroyed. Will the OP (or to be fair someone else) post another one right before Christmas? Whether one side of the aisle or the other. Please.

Thanksgiving 2022 - Everything you need to know | National Today

A friend would tell me Illegitimi non carborundum - Wikipedia when I was having all kinds of problems on another site.

Thanksgiving is what you make of it.

No, No, No ..... None of that. Thanksgiving is about roast Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy, Apple and Pumpkin pie. OH.... and the Football games.

Was it "deer" or BEER? The party would have been grand if they had beer:laugh:

And the Cliff Clavin award goes to...........:eclipsee_gold_cup:

"You know, I really think I can put together a great Thanksgiving dinner. This’ll be the second one that I’ve cooked, and believe me, the first one was not the disaster that my family said it was. Those kids had a pretty good time in that ambulance."

You must be woke. That was then and that was the way things were such as slavery. Many civilizations back then did the same. I’m not condoning it, just saying that was then. When we celebrate thanksgiving we appreciate the things we are thankful for primarily the health of all family members. You’re talking 200+yrs ago. Move on and quite trying to right a wrong. We know history was not always good to others. We (today) didn’t kill the Indians or enslave people, etc and all this woke crap. I’m living in 2022. Enough, move on with today. Yes, we know America made mistakes in the past but we’re still the BEST cause everyone is crossing the border legally and illegally trying to get here to this “horrible, inhumane country” to come to “The Land of Opportunity.”

Right on Sarah
 

Like it or not Sarah’s letter describes what actually happened. He who wins the war gets to write the history. Another example that the American public has been bombarded by fake news for a long, long time.
Counting your blessings and giving thanks does not require a special day, the realization of how fortunate we are should be a daily occurrence

Next time just try to research on youtube how to make the best-mashed potatoes.

Agree. It would have been much more useful to cut and paste a pumpkin pie recipe.

I find the OP "Sarah"'s picture of her shooting her gun disturbing. Combined with her living in Largo, she just doesn't seem to fit The Villages' motto of being "Florida's friendliest hometown". I prefer thinking of thanksgiving as a celebration of the bountiful harvest. Cheers and HAPPY thanksgiving y'all!

Thank you. Some people just have to push their political view or agenda onto every topic imaginable. Really, it's Thanksgiving after all. (Even though it's a different day in Canada:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)

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My great grandfather was Stephen Hopkins, a pilgrim who hosted Squanto in his home.

The only written account of the feast shared by the pilgrims and Indians was that of Edward Winslow in a letter to a friend in England in 1621. The pilgrims arrived in 1620. I’ll also point out that the Indians numbered around 90 and the pilgrims around 50 during the feast.

Letter of Edward Winslow, 11 December 1621

Loving, and old Friend; although I received no letter from you by this ship, yet forasmuch as I know you expect the performance of my promise, which was, to write unto you truly and faithfully of all things. I have therefore at this time sent unto you accordingly. Referring you for further satisfaction to our more large relations. You shall understand, that in this little time, that a few of us have been here, we have built seven dwelling-houses, and four for the use of the plantation, and have made preparation for divers others. We set the last spring some twenty acres of Indian corn, and sowed some six acres of barley and peas, and according to the manner of the Indians, we manured our ground with herrings or rather shads, which we have in great abundance, and take with great ease at our doors. Our corn did prove well, and God be praised, we had a good increase of Indian corn, and our barley indifferent good, but our peas not worth the gathering, for we feared they were too late sown, they came up very well, and blossomed, but the sun parched them in the blossom; our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might after a more special manner rejoice together, after we had gathered the fruit of our labors; they four in one day killed as much fowl, as with a little help beside, served the company almost a week, at which time amongst other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest King Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain, and others. And although it be not always so plentiful, as it was at this time with us, yet by the goodness of God, we are so far from want, that we often wish you partakers of our plenty. We have found the Indians very faithful in their covenant of peace with us; very loving and ready to pleasure us: we often go to them, and they come to us; some of us have been fifty miles by land in the country with them; the occasions and relations whereof you shall understand by our general and more full declaration of such things as are worth the noting, yea, it hath pleased God so to possess the Indians with a fear of us, and love unto us, that not only the greatest king amongst them called Massasoit, but also all the princes and peoples round about us, have either made suit unto us, or been glad of any occasion to make peace with us, so that seven of them at once have sent their messengers to us to that end, yea, an Fle at sea, which we never saw hath also together with the former yielded willingly to be under the protection, and subjects to our sovereign Lord King James, so that there is now great peace amongst the Indians themselves, which was not formerly, neither would have been but for us; and we for our parts walk as peaceably and safely in the wood, as in the highways in England, we entertain them familiarly in our houses, and they as friendly bestowing their venison on us. They are a people without any religion, or knowledge of any God, yet very trusty, quick of apprehension, ripe-witted, just, the men and women go naked, only a skin about their middles; for the temper of the air, here it agreeth well with that in England, and if there be any difference at all, this is somewhat hotter in summer, some think it to be colder in winter, but I cannot out of experience so say; the air is very clear and not foggy, as hath been reported. I never in my life remember a more seasonable year, than we have here enjoyed: and if we have once but kine, horses, and sheep, I make no question, but men might live as contented here as in any part of the world. For fish and fowl, we have great abundance, fresh cod in the summer is but coarse meat with us, our bay is full of lobsters all the summer, and affordeth variety of other fish; in September we can take a hogshead of eels in a night, with small labor, and can dig them out of their beds, all the winter we have mussels and othus at our doors: oysters we have none near, but we can have them brought by the Indians when we will; all the springtime the earth sendeth forth naturally very good sallet herbs: here are grapes, white and red, and very sweet and strong also. Strawberries, gooseberries, raspas, etc. Plums of three sorts, with black and red, being almost as good as a damson: abundance of roses, white, red, and damask: single, but very sweet indeed; the country wanteth only industrious men to employ, for it would grieve your hearts (if as I) you had seen so many miles together by goodly rivers uninhabited, and withal to consider those parts of the world wherein you live, to be even greatly burdened with abundance of people. These things I thought good to let you understand, being the truth of things as near as I could experimentally take knowledge of, and that you might on our behalf give God thanks who hath dealt so favorably with us.

Our supply of men from you came the ninth of November 1621, putting in at Cape Cod, some eight or ten leagues from us, the Indians that dwell thereabout were they who were owners of the corn which we found in caves, for which we have given them full content, and are in great league with them, they sent us word there was a ship near unto them, but thought it to be a Frenchman, and indeed for ourselves, we expected not a friend so soon. But when we perceived that she made for our bay, the governor commanded a great piece to be shot off, to call home such as were abroad at work; whereupon every man, yea, boy that could handle a gun were ready, with full resolution, that if she were an enemy, we would stand in our just defense, not fearing them, but God provided better for us than we supposed; these came all in health unto us, not any being sick by the way (otherwise than seasickness) and so continue at this time, by the blessing of God, the goodwife Ford was delivered of a son the first night she landed, and both of them are very well. When it pleaseth God, we are settled and fitted for the fishing business, and other trading, I doubt not but by the blessing of God, the gain will give content to all; in the mean time, that we have gotten we have sent by this ship, and though it be not much, yet it will witness for us, that we have not been idle, considering the smallness of our number all this summer. We hope the merchants will accept of it, and be encouraged to furnish us with things needful for further employment, which will also encourage us to put forth ourselves to the uttermost. Now because I expect your coming unto us with other of our friends, whose company we much desire, I thought good to advertise you of a few things needful; be careful to have a very good bread-room to put your biscuits in, let your cask for beer and water be iron-bound for the first tire if not more; let not your meat be dry-salted, none can better do it than the sailors; let your meal be so hard trod in your cask that you shall need an adz or hatchet to work it out with: trust not too much on us for corn at this time, for by reason of this last company that came, depending wholly upon us, we shall have little enough till harvest; be careful to come by some of your meal to spend by the way, it will much refresh you, build your cabins as open as you can, and bring good store of clothes, and bedding with you; bring every man a musket or fowling-piece, let your piece be long in the barrel, and fear not the weight of it, for most of our shooting is from stands; bring juice of lemons, and take it fasting, it is of good use; for hot waters, aniseed water is the best, but use it sparingly: if you bring anything for comfort in the country, butter or sallet oil, or both is very good; our Indian corn even the coarsest, maketh as pleasant meat as rice, therefore spare that unless to spend by the way; bring paper, and linseed oil for your windows, with cotton yarn for your lamps; let your shot be most for big fowls, and bring store of powder and shot: I forbear further to write for the present, hoping to see you by the next return, so I take my leave, commending you to the Lord for a safe conduct unto us. Resting in Him

Plymouth in New England
this 11 of December.
1621.

Your loving Friend
E. W.

Very well said!

What happens to the two turkeys donated to the White House? Are they really pardoned and live the rest of their lives in some turkey valhalla or are they put back into the general turkey population and end up on someone's holiday table? Just asking.

Cooked and ate the turkey last night so as not to be offensive….Thursday we will cook corned beef and cabbage and give thanks to our sun worshiping ancestors….

Thank you Jayteadunn for restoring validity to the Thanksgiving story!

Sarah omitted this part of the saga which is in Wikipedia:

The Pequots were the dominant Native American tribe in the southeastern portion of Connecticut Colony, and they had long competed with the neighboring Mohegan and Narragansett tribes.[2]: 167  The European colonists established trade with all three tribes, exchanging European goods for wampum and furs. The Pequots eventually allied with the Dutch colonists, while the Mohegans and others allied with the New England colonists.

A trader named John Oldham was murdered and his trading ship looted by Pequots,[2]: 177  and retaliation raids ensued by Colonists and their Native American allies. On April 23, 1637, 200 Pequot warriors attacked the colonial village of Wethersfield killing 6 men and 3 women, all noncombatants. This was a major turning point in the Pequot war as it enraged the settlers that the warriors would kill civilians and led to increased support for the Pequot War among colonists.[3] According to Katherine Grandjean, the Great Colonial Hurricane of 1635 damaged the corn and other crop harvests of that year, making food supplies scarce and creating competition for winter food supplies. This in turn increased the tensions between the Pequots and Colonists who were ill-prepared to face periods of famine.[4]

Reminds me of Saturday Night Live's skit of Debbie Downer at the Thanksgiving table.
Watch Saturday Night Live Highlight: Debbie Downer: Thanksgiving Dinner - NBC.com

Is she done yet???

Good Lord, lighten up...and pass the turkey!

All those web pages were created way after the fact... Basically it's a day to be thankful.

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barf:faint:1. You know England has Thanksgiving also, but it on July 4th. (Just incase you don’t get it, they are thankful to get rid of us!). I know not a good joke if you have explain it,

2. Next she is going to tell that there really isn’t a Santa Claus, or Easter Bunny!

Wonder if Plymouth rock is real?

It is absolutely amazing how much time people spend on here. And as maybe Thanksgiving and the holidays have changed over the past hundreds and hundreds of years I’m sure some of the traditions aren’t around anymore and some new traditions are here embrace it or ignore it.
Or just continue on here, listening to people gripe

Thanksgiving!
 

Ok. Let us gather on this last Thursday of November to be thankful for all we still have in this crazy mixed up world with friends or families, enjoying the food we can still afford. None of us was there in the 17th century to witness the first Thanksgiving, so let us call it historic and eat well my friends. Happy Thanksgiving!!

I have to laugh when I read all this hatred for the terrible explorers like Columbus and the Pilgrims and then read articles about how the wonderful indigenous peoples of the world used to sacrifice their young and brutally kill each other for sport. Maybe the "White Man" and his civilized ways weren't so bad after all.

76 child sacrifice victims with their hearts ripped out found in Peru excavation | Live Science

So, in other words, the OP was a bunch of agenda driven garbage. Doesn't matter, I'll be enjoying my turkey either way

But will it be brined or not?

Guess who’s NOT getting invited to Thanksgiving dinner. 😂

Aren’t most things, these days?

The problem is that you cannot morally judge the events of one time with the refined sensibilities of a later time. It just doesn’t work. That is why it was so amusing a few years back with all the ersatz angst over slavery being howled to the skies. And for the part, the people howling the loudest knew the least. Looking back throughout history, it is easy to imagine slavery as cutting-edge social progress, if the alternative was to be sacrificed to some deity or other, or being tortured to death for the amusement of your captors.

Same thing for our pre-revolutionary war history. We can agonize all we want over the plight of the indigenous residents of this continent, what with the Europeans coming over and wanting land, but that was the ethic of the time and for quite some time after. Empire-building was SOP for the big powers, and not just in North America but pretty much all over the world: India, SE Asia, Africa, an d Australia comes to mind. Would it be right today? No. But knowing that does not make what happened then, wrong.

The one thing I cannot stand is the way people today try to change history to match todays standards. History is history whether we agree with it or not and it should not be changed. Thanksgiving has become a great family holiday and it should be embraced. Many things in history would be so wrong today but at the time they were excepted behavior and we cannot go back in time to change it. Every time someone tries to change history or remove a statue etc I cringe.

Sorry, that makes way too much sense:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

And for the committed woke, it won't make a difference

It is a tourist attraction.

that was my understanding, also. it was a peaceful celebration giving thanks for the new world & peace with indian tribes

And yet again, historical truths are trying to be re-written or forgotten because some may feel "bad". Let's dumbdown our citizens, is what is really happening here. Thank you for your article. Already knew the truth, but it's good to remind people.

thx & a Happy Thanksgiving to you, too! 💛

Yup. Just like christmas in the USA is all about a fictional fat guy in a red suit, spending money on things no one actually needs, greedily awaiting the moment when you can find out what YOU GET that year, big sales at the stores, employees being forced to work on what is supposedly one of their religion's holiest days of the year.

Oh and maybe showing up at church but skipping the sermon because you want to open all those presents.