[villager7591]

The truth: Thanksgiving, in the USA, is where family and friends gather, to give thanks for a wonderful life.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by villager7591

The truth: Thanksgiving, in the USA, is where family and friends gather, to give thanks for a wonderful life.

…………, argue about politics, eat until they feel nauseous, then try not to fall asleep watching football.

[alwann]

Wasn't there a massacre where the Pilgrims in Jamestown got wiped out? To paraphrase something someone infamous once said: There were some good(and bad) people on both sides.

[dewilson58]

[QUOTE=rustyp;2158816]

Originally Posted by Sarah_W

Thanksgiving: The Truth

A proclamation by President George Washington and a congressional resolution established the first national Thanksgiving Day on November 26, 1789. The reason for the holiday was to give "thanks" for the new Constitution. "...to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."


I was extremely thankful until I got to the last 6 words.

Thanks for reading thru this...............Now I know how the story ended......No Way was I going to read.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

…………, argue about politics, eat until they feel nauseous, then try not to fall asleep watching football.

..................and I get to wear funny pants.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by alwann

Wasn't there a massacre where the Pilgrims in Jamestown got wiped out? To paraphrase something someone infamous once said: There were some good(and bad) people on both sides.

Yep. Like I said, war has winners and losers. Our ancestors didn't always win-----can anyone spell "George Armstrong Custer"????

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

yep. Like i said, war has winners and losers. Our ancestors didn't always win-----can anyone spell "george armstrong custer"????

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[Decadeofdave]

Wow, this really changes my mind and will reset the way I celebrate Thanksgiving, Not!

[Taltarzac725]

Thanksgiving 2022 - Tradition, Origins & Meaning - HISTORY

I like this version above.

My ancestors on my Mother's side landed in Massachusetts around 1670-1680. Thanks to them for being so brave to come to a new country for them.

I recall my grandfather was involved in a lawsuit with the Wampanoag over properties their tribe was claiming as tribal land. Wampanoag - Wikipedia

The Mashpee Wampanoag Tribal Council was established in 1972 under the leadership of its first president, Russell "Fast Turtle" Peters. In 1974 the Council petitioned the Bureau of Indian Affairs for recognition. In 1976 the tribe sued the Town of Mashpee for the return of ancestral homelands. The case was lost but the tribe continued to pursue federal recognition for three decades.

[BobnBev]

I can't believe I read the whole thing.......15 minutes of my life wasted.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The Pequot War was a thing. You can pretend it has no significance, you can claim ignorance - until you learn otherwise. And then your decision to form an opinion on the matter is yours alone. The fable of Thanksgiving, what you were told in grammar school, what the advertising agencies push to sell turkeys and cardboard cutouts and dioramas and pumpkins - is a fable.

I think the OP is asking everyone to remember that Thanksgiving isn't really about all that advertising garbage. And to remember and respect that it IS about being thankful that we have our lives, our Democratic Republic, our relative freedoms and rights.

And NOT that the Pilgrims shared a meal with the Native Americans. Because that - never happened.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The Pequot War was a thing. You can pretend it has no significance, you can claim ignorance - until you learn otherwise. And then your decision to form an opinion on the matter is yours alone. The fable of Thanksgiving, what you were told in grammar school, what the advertising agencies push to sell turkeys and cardboard cutouts and dioramas and pumpkins - is a fable.

I think the OP is asking everyone to remember that Thanksgiving isn't really about all that advertising garbage. And to remember and respect that it IS about being thankful that we have our lives, our Democratic Republic, our relative freedoms and rights.

And NOT that the Pilgrims shared a meal with the Native Americans. Because that - never happened.

You're probably right. But remember---it's the winners that write the history books.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You're probably right. But remember---it's the winners that write the history books.

Spoken like someone who chooses which history books to believe.

Losers write history books too. And sometimes - there is no winner. And there are books written. Sometimes, everyone wins. And there aren't any books written.

[Two Bills]

Turkeys want Thanksgiving and Christmas banned, and changed to a vegan celebration!

[Taltarzac725]

Everyone'''s history matters: The Wampanoag Indian Thanksgiving story deserves to be known | Smithsonian Voices | National Museum of the American Indian Smithsonian Magazine

If you want accurate history this might be it.

For a moment of history, the interests of the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag aligned. When the Pilgrims landed in New England, after failing to make their way to the milder mouth of the Hudson, they had little food and no knowledge of the new land. The Wampanoag suggested a mutually beneficial relationship, in which the Pilgrims would exchange European weaponry for Wampanoag for food. With the help of an English-speaking Patuxet Indian named Tisquantum (not Squanto; he spoke English because he was kidnapped and sold in the European slave trade before making his way back to America), the Pilgrims produced a bountiful supply of food that summer. For their part, the Wampanoag were able to defend themselves against the Narragansett. The feast of indigenous foods that took place in October 1621, after the harvest, was one of thanks, but it more notably symbolized the rare, peaceful coexistence of the two groups.

I believe there is a series that also tells the story along these lines.