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OrangeBlossomBaby 09-04-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 1998414)
Actually WAY different than alcohol.....less destructive to the body organs, mental capacities are impaired either way, but alcohol makes people aggressive and confrontational where a couple of joints and you have the munchies and melt into the sofa singing Kumbuya...far less risky for our law enforcement officers to have to deal with. A couple zoned out is much less likely to generate an abuse/disturbance call....saving a LEO the potential for on of the most risky calls to make. I vote pot.

Also, eating a few of 10mg THC gummies a day won't give you liver damage, contribute to a stroke, or to a heart attack. Drinking a couple bottles of booze every day will.

Blueblaze 09-05-2021 09:05 AM

The question is not whether or not pot is bad for you, it's whether it should be legal.

We're talking about a weed that was cultivated so heavily for the fiber prior to being outlawed, that it now grows wild in the highway ditches of nearly every state in the union. Outlawing weed worked about as well as outlawing dandelions.

Personally, I'm an American. Liberty is the whole reason we have an America, and believe it or not, liberty even extends to stupid people. Yes, I think adults have a right to their stupidity -- even, to a reasonable extent, the right to try their own stupid way of raising their own stupid offspring. I think stupid people get to control what poisons they stupidly choose to ingest for whatever stupid reason they choose!

If you don't even have the right to choose what you put in your mouth, how can you say you live in a Free Country?

I wouldn't outlaw ANY drug, much less a weed. But if we insist on having an FDA to approve SOME drugs, why are untested "CBD" concoctions exempt, and free to make any ludicrous claim they want -- much less untested nicotine concoctions for kids to "vape" themselves to death 40 years quicker than a cigarette?

In my perfect world, the FDA would be required to test ALL drugs sold for human consumption. It would publish the results, and require an honest label listing the contents and warnings. But we would quit sending people to jail for ingesting their favorite poisons, tested or otherwise.

And we would throw the book at junkies who steal our stuff to support their stupid habit!

mikebama 09-06-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

Yes. My wife uses it to offset effects of Chemo. I use it for recreational purposes, since I retired in ‘09.

RICH1 09-06-2021 10:53 PM

Seems like one of the more popular topics! Let's legalize it and pay down the National Debt, just with the sales from The Villages

jswirs 09-07-2021 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

Just a simple answer, without all of the possible hoopla...YES

Ben Franklin 09-07-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 1999261)
The question is not whether or not pot is bad for you, it's whether it should be legal.

We're talking about a weed that was cultivated so heavily for the fiber prior to being outlawed, that it now grows wild in the highway ditches of nearly every state in the union. Outlawing weed worked about as well as outlawing dandelions.

Personally, I'm an American. Liberty is the whole reason we have an America, and believe it or not, liberty even extends to stupid people. Yes, I think adults have a right to their stupidity -- even, to a reasonable extent, the right to try their own stupid way of raising their own stupid offspring. I think stupid people get to control what poisons they stupidly choose to ingest for whatever stupid reason they choose!

If you don't even have the right to choose what you put in your mouth, how can you say you live in a Free Country?

I wouldn't outlaw ANY drug, much less a weed. But if we insist on having an FDA to approve SOME drugs, why are untested "CBD" concoctions exempt, and free to make any ludicrous claim they want -- much less untested nicotine concoctions for kids to "vape" themselves to death 40 years quicker than a cigarette?

In my perfect world, the FDA would be required to test ALL drugs sold for human consumption. It would publish the results, and require an honest label listing the contents and warnings. But we would quit sending people to jail for ingesting their favorite poisons, tested or otherwise.

And we would throw the book at junkies who steal our stuff to support their stupid habit!

Marijuana isn't really a weed, it's a herb. CBD has so little THC in it that one would have to smoke pounds of it to feel any effect. I wish thy would start using hemp in more products from paper to home building.

Yes, liberty allows one to choose, as long as it isn't detrimental to other people's freedom. Marijuana was legal in the US for 130 years before prohibition. And, yes, a 10mg gummie, an hour or so before bed, allows one to have a great nite sleep.

DAVES 09-10-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 2000089)
Marijuana isn't really a weed, it's a herb. CBD has so little THC in it that one would have to smoke pounds of it to feel any effect. I wish thy would start using hemp in more products from paper to home building.

Yes, liberty allows one to choose, as long as it isn't detrimental to other people's freedom. Marijuana was legal in the US for 130 years before prohibition. And, yes, a 10mg gummie, an hour or so before bed, allows one to have a great nite sleep.

So was cocaine. So was radium. Isn't a weed it is an herb, there is in the real world no difference. In terms of government is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable? I has been a debate for a while. Why does it matter? It matters because of the taxes and the subsidies that apply. Marijuana. I'm not sure where stand on it. Handled as an illegal substance, not based on any recent activity but there is/was stuff out there mixed with manure and other mixed with opiates.

I do find it interesting the parallel to prohibition. When alcohol was illegal consumption actually went up and the government spent a fortune policing it. Alcohol was again legalized perhaps due to the loss of tax revenue. I has always been highly taxed.
Gambling. Sadly amusing. The government went into off track betting. In private hands it was highly profitable. The government made little profit and in New York they lost money. Prostitution. The government has not gone into that YET. Oh wait there is Vegas.

DAVES 09-10-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 1999261)
The question is not whether or not pot is bad for you, it's whether it should be legal.

We're talking about a weed that was cultivated so heavily for the fiber prior to being outlawed, that it now grows wild in the highway ditches of nearly every state in the union. Outlawing weed worked about as well as outlawing dandelions.

Personally, I'm an American. Liberty is the whole reason we have an America, and believe it or not, liberty even extends to stupid people. Yes, I think adults have a right to their stupidity -- even, to a reasonable extent, the right to try their own stupid way of raising their own stupid offspring. I think stupid people get to control what poisons they stupidly choose to ingest for whatever stupid reason they choose!

If you don't even have the right to choose what you put in your mouth, how can you say you live in a Free Country?

I wouldn't outlaw ANY drug, much less a weed. But if we insist on having an FDA to approve SOME drugs, why are untested "CBD" concoctions exempt, and free to make any ludicrous claim they want -- much less untested nicotine concoctions for kids to "vape" themselves to death 40 years quicker than a cigarette?

In my perfect world, the FDA would be required to test ALL drugs sold for human consumption. It would publish the results, and require an honest label listing the contents and warnings. But we would quit sending people to jail for ingesting their favorite poisons, tested or otherwise.

And we would throw the book at junkies who steal our stuff to support their stupid habit!

For what it is worth a perfect world does not exist and never has. Even not sending people to jail has been tried. So has burning people at the stake, tearing them apart etc.
Engineering and medical knowledge. Maximum pain for the longest time. There ar books in the Vatican with written texts on the screams and how many ratchet notches before the arms tore out in the attempt to convert non-christians.

Steal our stuff? Jail? Electric chair? What about if it is your kid? Not everyone is as perfect as I think I am.

walterray1 09-10-2021 07:38 PM

What more can you say?
 
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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2001726)
For what it is worth a perfect world does not exist and never has. Even not sending people to jail has been tried. So has burning people at the stake, tearing them apart etc.
Engineering and medical knowledge. Maximum pain for the longest time. There ar books in the Vatican with written texts on the screams and how many ratchet notches before the arms tore out in the attempt to convert non-christians.

Steal our stuff? Jail? Electric chair? What about if it is your kid? Not everyone is as perfect as I think I am.

That about says it all folks. Good night Gracie.

ROCKMUP 09-11-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2001725)
So was cocaine. So was radium. Isn't a weed it is an herb, there is in the real world no difference. In terms of government is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable? I has been a debate for a while. Why does it matter? It matters because of the taxes and the subsidies that apply. Marijuana. I'm not sure where stand on it. Handled as an illegal substance, not based on any recent activity but there is/was stuff out there mixed with manure and other mixed with opiates.

I do find it interesting the parallel to prohibition. When alcohol was illegal consumption actually went up and the government spent a fortune policing it. Alcohol was again legalized perhaps due to the loss of tax revenue. I has always been highly taxed.
Gambling. Sadly amusing. The government went into off track betting. In private hands it was highly profitable. The government made little profit and in New York they lost money. Prostitution. The government has not gone into that YET. Oh wait there is Vegas.


Hard to take anything you say seriously when your first comparison is cocaine. You do know that cocaine doesn't come naturally, right ? Its the result of chemically processing the coca plant. Chewing coca leaves is nothing like doing cocaine.

Other than that, your pretty spot on.

Gulfcoast 09-16-2021 09:06 PM

I don't support the legalization of pot for recreational purposes. I'm neutral on it being prescribed for medical purposes, if a doctor orders it for their patient that's good enough for me.

Gulfcoast 09-16-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 1998407)
Ignorant response. Do you let your children use booze or other things not for them?

Booze isn't disguised as gummies, brownies or other edibles.

I think it would be a 100% foreseeable issue if all of a sudden all those goodies became legal and 5 year olds were accidentally bringing "candy" to school for their friends.

GrumpyOldMan 09-16-2021 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 2005089)
Booze isn't disguised as gummies, brownies or other edibles.

I think it would be a 100% foreseeable issue if all of a sudden all those goodies became legal and 5 year olds were accidentally bringing "candy" to school for their friends.

Seriously?

LOL!

You have never injected vodka into grapes, strawberries, or melons - LOL!

Gulfcoast 09-17-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 2005104)
Seriously?

LOL!

You have never injected vodka into grapes, strawberries, or melons - LOL!

I have never once heard of a child bringing vodka infused fruit to school. But kids bring things like gummies and brownies all the time.

graciegirl 09-17-2021 08:11 AM

For the record. I don't use marijuana in any form and I no longer drink alcohol.

To me it is important that people do not harm others by driving under the influence.

The rest is your business.


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