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JMintzer 07-14-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1973109)
Here is a pew report on it. I think the incarceration for possession is on the decline since so many states are making it legal. At this point, simple possession of small amounts is treated more like driving without seat belts or talking on your phone while driving. it is not enough to get you pulled over, but if you are pulled over and annoy the cop, they can add those on.

I don't recall where I saw it, but I think around 99% of drug related charges today are for trafficking.

Same with small possession, if you have some it is illegal and can be stacked onto other charges.

Pew Report

They are ignoring the fact that most "possession" convictions are plead down to that, by lazy DAs, looking for a quick and easy conviction (to keep up their numbers)...

They drop their "intent to distribute" or the gun charges to get a quick guilty plea...

Art cov 07-14-2021 04:52 PM

A friend just came back from New Orleans. Where he stayed (French quarter) it’s legal there. He said the place stunk with pot smoking and every corner had people selling it. It’s a amazing cigarette smoking is so bad for people’s health, but pot smoking does so good. Nothing bad, it stinks and destroys in the long run. Most kids who smoke weed, start with it but then try other drugs. I remember how at bus stops some of the kids smelled the bus when they got on after smoking a joint. I guess if it was in the brownies and not smoked we would’ve only knew because of their yeah man speech. But they were 13 yr olds. If you sit out on the lanai and the smoke drifts to you, what do you think? Remember pot smokers enjoy company who indulge with them. Hey, the dancing will change at the squares, it could be entertaining!

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-14-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1973105)
I see no reason to define a new law for an intoxicating substance. We already have one, and it does NOT ban it's use in public, but does restrict it - like Alcohol.

I just don't feel it should be smoked in public. Not even in places where smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol is allowed (like outdoor bars, cigar + cognac lounges, etc). Unlike nicotine, cannibis smoke, second-hand, CAN create a mind-altering effect.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-14-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1973098)
Where are all of these people being arrested and jailed for simple possession?

As of last year, there were around 4000 people already in jail and serving time for "possession" of marijuana as the primary charge. Fewer than 10% of cannibis-related incarcerations were for trafficking. Possession alone can incur up to 7 years in federal prison. It doesn't usually, but it can. It's on the books.

It doesn't even matter if it's 7 years, or 7 days. Once you're in for possession, you are a convicted criminal and your chances of getting a decent job are down the tubes.

Kelevision 07-14-2021 05:19 PM

Alcohol and nicotine are 2 of the 5 most addictive drugs. Marijuana isn’t addictive. So…… I’m all for legalizing it. The states that already have are reaping the benefits in $$$$.

BlueStarAirlines 07-14-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1973127)
I just don't feel it should be smoked in public. Not even in places where smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol is allowed (like outdoor bars, cigar + cognac lounges, etc). Unlike nicotine, cannibis smoke, second-hand, CAN create a mind-altering effect.

Since it is still illegal at the Federal level, there are many jobs, clearances, and benefits that are mandated to be no where near it. Its one of the few "vices" that a nearby non-user can register a false-positive even with non-use.

Swoop 07-14-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1972818)
The War on Drugs acts as a price support guarantee for the Drug cartels, Americans WANT drugs, and they will pay whatever it costs to get them.

Poor kids from the inner-city have to make a choice - stand on a corner and sell drugs and get rich, buy guns, cars, and sex, or flip burgers for less than minimum wage. Since they need to protect themselves and their stash, they need to have guns. Because the other kids have guns, expensive handguns become an affordable cost of doing business, leading to the arms race with the police departments and the formation of gangs to help control turf for drug markets.

The drug war is possibly the worst policy this country has ever conceived of; whether or not you think drugs should be legal, there has to be a better way to deal with the drug "problems."

And let's not conflate the war on drugs and the separate issue of making marijuana illegal. Making MJ illegal started long before Nixon when the government first commissioned a study to determine if MJ was harmful or dangerous, and the report came back that it wasn't. That was not an acceptable outcome, so they announced that "more studies are needed." And the "More studies are needed" has been constantly repeated ever since - almost 100 years now (1937).

There is no doubt that inhaling smoke from a burning plant is hazardous. There is also evidence that marijuana can have adverse side effects. But, it's a matter of degree. And there are safer ways to take MJ - such as tinctures and edibles.

The old "reefer madness" (government slogan predating "brain on drugs") is simply a flat-out lie.

I believe there is still no evidence of ANYONE ever dying from an overdose of MJ, but many die from overdoses of Alcohol.

There is little or no evidence of automobile accidents resulting from or caused by MJ use. (30,000 die in Auto accidents annually, and the majority have Alcohol associated with them)

I don't believe there has ever been a bar fight with MJ as a cause, yet violence is a common side effect of Alcohol.

MJ is known to cause brain damage but about 10% of the brain damage caused by Alcohol.

Alcohol is addictive; MJ is not addictive.

It goes on and on.

If you can't tell, I am in favor of legalization.

There is NO serious evidence of MJ being a problem or a gateway. On the contrary, there is significant evidence that it is useful in treating numerous diseases and health conditions.

To all the people who comment that they have seen how much damage it can do to people's lives, I suggested some people will destroy their lives with some drug - MJ is not a gateway; it is simply inexpensive and readily available. Once a person has contacts with the black market criminals they buy from, it is a small step to get hard drugs from the same market. Pushers will often offer "free samples". But, again, it is not the MJ that causes the problem; it is forcing people to use illegal channels to get drugs.

I would remind everyone what happened when Alcohol was prohibited - mobs (like the Kennedys) got rich, and many people died. Just like what has been happening ever since we decided to make drugs illegal.

If you state something as a fact, it should actually be a fact. Actually alcohol accounts for less than 30% of auto deaths - not the majority of them.

jmaccallum 07-14-2021 06:10 PM

Thoughts on use of Pot.
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

People can become addicted to anything, including Fantasy Football. Seen it happen to friends. Yes, I quit. Lol!

I think many of us smoked pot back in college. I know I did, and I graduated with a 3.6 average. So too did my frat friends who drank alcohol like crazy. So who knows.

I think none of us want to admit to smoking pot - you know, like Bill, we just inhaled. And none of my fraternity friends want to admit to the crazy alcohol parties they participated in every weekend.

I haven’t smoked pot since 1984, over 37 years ago. But I do now see where it is helping some of our Vets with PTSD, and people with cancer, Multiple Sclerosis, and other debilitating issues. I say, anything that helps them.

As far as recreational use, well if you use alcohol and say no, I think that’s hypocritical. Legalize it and tax it. That brings in revenue. Legalize it and eliminate the criminal element involved. That cuts expenses and keeps our police safer. I think that’s a win-win all around.

thelegges 07-14-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 1973142)
Since it is still illegal at the Federal level, there are many jobs, clearances, and benefits that are mandated to be no where near it. Its one of the few "vices" that a nearby non-user can register a false-positive even with non-use.

When applying for the FBI, you could not have smoked weed for the last 3 years. And never before the age of 18.

Today, applying for the FBI, no weed ONE year before submitting application. The no weed, before age 18 still applies.

walterray1 07-14-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1972943)
In Holland annually, the cannabis coffee shops generate an estimated 400 million euros in tax – money that would otherwise have accrued to criminal profiteers.
Thats from a population of just over 17 million.
With a population nearly 20 times as great, that's a lot of dosh to put against the national debt in USA. if it was legalised.

Probably why they have free health care. Ok, just making a point no fact checkers please.

walterray1 07-14-2021 06:38 PM

Excellent points throughout this thread
 
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1972962)
Craving is not the same as addiction. I often crave chocolate, or cashews, or pizza. But, I would not rob a convenience store to get enough money to buy some.

Also, there is the use disorder or emotional addiction to substances, so, in their case, it could be a "crutch" as opposed to actual physical addiction.

I am NOT downplaying emotional addiction or use disorders, they are serious. But they are not physically dependent on the substance, they are a psychological or mental disorder.

You continue to provide excellent points and facts. Very much in agreement.

walterray1 07-14-2021 06:43 PM

Really?
 
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1973061)
Talk about convoluted logic, now they can’t hold a job because they’re stoned and they have to rob, steal and burglarize to support their out of touch with reality life.

Excellent example of convoluted logic yourself. Quite the jump you are making.

walterray1 07-14-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1973124)
A friend just came back from New Orleans. Where he stayed (French quarter) it’s legal there. He said the place stunk with pot smoking and every corner had people selling it. It’s a amazing cigarette smoking is so bad for people’s health, but pot smoking does so good. Nothing bad, it stinks and destroys in the long run. Most kids who smoke weed, start with it but then try other drugs. I remember how at bus stops some of the kids smelled the bus when they got on after smoking a joint. I guess if it was in the brownies and not smoked we would’ve only knew because of their yeah man speech. But they were 13 yr olds. If you sit out on the lanai and the smoke drifts to you, what do you think? Remember pot smokers enjoy company who indulge with them. Hey, the dancing will change at the squares, it could be entertaining!

I think, just wow man! covers the response to this.

Boomer 07-14-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1972773)
I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Don't much care what one does in the privacy of their own home. As long as they don't get high and drive or become an otherwise public nuisance, I'm fine with it.

What Kenswing said is pretty much how I feel about it.

John Boehner who opposed legalization, while in office, now sits on the board of a major cannabis company Acreage Holdings.

Although I did not often agree with Boehner during most of his career in DC, I know his neck of the woods because it is my neck of the woods, and I know people who know him, and he seems to be a relatively normal, sane person.

He has a new book On the House -- perfect title for his behind-the-scenes memoir. I saw him interviewed about his book. He seemed sooooooo relaxed -- and now rich.

Boomer (who never inhaled)

ithos 07-14-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1972915)
Sorry, there is NO evidence that marijuana is addictive. Any substance can be emotionally addictive, but physical addition is not a problem with Marijuana.

You could not be more wrong. There is a government website that serves as an online resource for medical research. PubMed

There are hundreds of articles on the subject but here are a couple:

Cannabis Addiction and the Brain: a Review

Keep off the grass? Cannabis, cognition and addiction | Nature Reviews Neuroscience

People who try cannabis are ninefold more likely to become addicted to it than to develop psychosis. Cannabis addiction is an increasing problem globally, and no effective pharmacological treatments currently exist — this remains a major unmet clinical need.

An occasional joint will probably not cause addiction or permanent damage. The big problem is that the potency is much higher now and many lives will be destroyed by it because they believed the lie that it was a harmless drug.

jimbomaybe 07-14-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 1972916)
I couldn't agree more! Keeping it unlawful contributes to the criminal Cartels and the violence associated with them.

I come from a state where its legal and have contacts with LEOs and pot users, the street dealers think legalization was a great thing. They can and do undercut pot dispensaries by a wide margin, of course they pay not tax, if caught its just a license violation for sale and it has given them a larger customer base

GrumpyOldMan 07-14-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1973145)
If you state something as a fact, it should actually be a fact. Actually alcohol accounts for less than 30% of auto deaths - not the majority of them.

Thank you for the correction. You are correct, almost, according to NIH the number is 25%, however I have seen other sites with other numbers up to 30%.

The number of traffic fatalities with MJ as a contributing factor is harder to determine. Sort of like COVID deaths with comorbidity. The problem is 20 and Younger make up a majority of traffic accidents, and 20 and younger make of a majority if MJ users - so, hmm. Complicates things.

Here is a study by NIH which indicates are "normal" use levels MJ users tend to over compensate correcting for their impairment, where alcohol users tend to under compensate.

NIH on Traffic accidents with Alcohol and Marijuana

And thanks again for keeping me honest here. Sometimes I get carried away posting and mis-remember "facts".

Nucky 07-14-2021 07:59 PM

Lemme tell you a couple or three things.

Make it legal.

Consume it or your own property.

If you hurt a loved one of mine while your high or drunk the judge isn't the one you have to be concerned about. Case Closed!

I smoke it a dozen times in my whole stinkin life and wasn't very good at it. Most people chilled out. Me, an aggressive individual who would take the fillings outta your toofies type of animal and then a grocery destroyer afterward.

I don't care either way really. I hope the people who are in pain that can be helped can get MJ. I was offered it and turned it down. Against the rules of another club, I belong to.

(Thinking Of tomwed) At the other club, people often share that while they were making an arrangement to purchase some weed the salesman upsold them to something else. I'm not making the news just reporting it. So the gateway thing??? Who knows, you make the call.

GrumpyOldMan 07-14-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1973163)
You could not be more wrong. There is a government website that serves as an online resource for medical research. PubMed

There are hundreds of articles on the subject but here are a couple:

Cannabis Addiction and the Brain: a Review

I wrote a LONG reply with links and all, and decided to delete it. (which you can;'t do on this forum).

The article is one of MANY on THC by NIH. And all of them refer to how THC affects the brain, referring it the effects as "similar" to other drugs that cause substance use disorder (the term addiction is not really used anymore except in general).

The addiction I and others was referring to is the traditional referenced to addiction that results in pain and suffering during withdrawl, and the addiction that results in lying, stealing or even in some cases killing to get a fix. That is not seen in THC users. Instead even heavy users that have sudden withdrawal typical have symptoms of anxiety and depression - more similar to coffee than say cocaine, opioids, heroin, etc. Which is the type of drugs the Federal Government lists MJ as being the same as.

sigh...

Joanne19335 07-15-2021 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

I support it for medicinal purposes only.

BillY41 07-15-2021 04:59 AM

Gateway drug! Decriminalize personal possession, no smoking in public.

Girlcopper 07-15-2021 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1972839)
"Marijuana use can lead to the development of problem use, known as a marijuana use disorder, which takes the form of addiction in severe cases. Recent data suggest that 30% of those who use marijuana may have some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before the age of 18 are four to seven times more likely to develop a marijuana use disorder than adults."

From: Is marijuana addictive? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

What the heck is marijuana use disorder?? Lol. It should be legalized, its not addictive. Liquor is addictive, cigarettes are addictive and legal.

Get real 07-15-2021 05:08 AM

It is a friggin plant....who cares????? It grows naturally. Have at it.

Eg_cruz 07-15-2021 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

Yes

Eg_cruz 07-15-2021 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1972787)
Since I have seen the effects is has on users over the years I do not support its legalization.

Follow the money.

Who and what entities lobbied through its legalization?

Who/what entities stand to benefit?

States will tax it so stand to gain although they (taxpayers) will bear some of the costs of pot use.

What the difference between smoking marijuana vs the drinking at City Fire everyday. On average they drink 4 to 6 drinks every time they belly up to the bar.

Petersweeney 07-15-2021 05:22 AM

The tax gains from sales are offset by the people who are are on public assistance b/c of MJ abuse -lazy and unemployable….basic fact that you won’t hear about from MSM….

Eg_cruz 07-15-2021 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

Yes….and they should put a federal tax on it and for the first 20 years the tax goes direct to deficit…..🤣😂

Eg_cruz 07-15-2021 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 1972846)
It is legal in MA but I didn’t vote for it. The main issue for me is people driving. I have never used it and don’t plan on it. I am trying some Hemp gummies for a few health issues but that is all.

So there way more DUI involving alcohol than those involving marijuana
Heck just go to any square and see all the alcohol abuse every day starting at 11:00 am daily

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 07-15-2021 05:46 AM

Back in high school - I saw a bunch of kids who snuck out and came back to class just reeking of horrible odors. I never tried it or had the desire to try it. I guess you can call me ‘old-fashioned’ :-) :-). People who did it just never appealed to me - or were just not the type of people I (personally) wanted to spend time or be associated with. Just my personal preferences - likewise- if people don’t like the way I live - I certainly wouldn’t want to force it on anyone - either. To each his/her own!

Also, I just have this impression that someone has to deal with ‘shady’ characters to acquire drugs. And if someone is willing to do that - I just prefer to keep my distance from them. I could be wrong - but that is how I feel - you are all free to feel the way you want - as long as you aren’t endangering others - go for it! If you want to use drugs or drink until you are tipsy - go for it - I just hope and pray you stay away from the golf cart or car until you are sober.

I don’t think I am better than you or you are better than me - just a personal preference - it is just not the type of lifestyle I want to associate with - I believe everyone has free will to make those lifestyle decisions for themselves - they can live with the consequences - if any.

GrumpyOldMan 07-15-2021 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1973234)
The tax gains from sales are offset by the people who are are on public assistance b/c of MJ abuse -lazy and unemployable….basic fact that you won’t hear about from MSM….

Except that 75% of Americans have used MJ, and 30% are using it. Sorry, you are incorrect. But, if you have some references to support that I would love to read them.

JeanC 07-15-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1973124)
A friend just came back from New Orleans. Where he stayed (French quarter) it’s legal there. He said the place stunk with pot smoking and every corner had people selling it. It’s a amazing cigarette smoking is so bad for people’s health, but pot smoking does so good. Nothing bad, it stinks and destroys in the long run. Most kids who smoke weed, start with it but then try other drugs. I remember how at bus stops some of the kids smelled the bus when they got on after smoking a joint. I guess if it was in the brownies and not smoked we would’ve only knew because of their yeah man speech. But they were 13 yr olds. If you sit out on the lanai and the smoke drifts to you, what do you think? Remember pot smokers enjoy company who indulge with them. Hey, the dancing will change at the squares, it could be entertaining!

You do realize NOLA stinks with or without pot.

Also FYI. Most pot these days are being consumed via dab pen. It’s almost odorless. I’ve seen folks use them in the squares and in the golf course. You would never know it.

JMintzer 07-15-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1973130)
As of last year, there were around 4000 people already in jail and serving time for "possession" of marijuana as the primary charge. Fewer than 10% of cannibis-related incarcerations were for trafficking. Possession alone can incur up to 7 years in federal prison. It doesn't usually, but it can. It's on the books.

It doesn't even matter if it's 7 years, or 7 days. Once you're in for possession, you are a convicted criminal and your chances of getting a decent job are down the tubes.

Please read my previous post about what they were "really" arrested for...

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-15-2021 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1972792)
It should be legalized, not just decriminalized. The Florida law is a joke, designed to make money for the state, and for the doctors who pretend to be regulating the sale of Marijuana to only those who have a medical condition. In Florida, anyone who wants a license to buy Marijuana can get one, if they are willing to pay exorbitant amounts of money every year to the doctors and to the state. The screening process is totally ineffective.

I agree 100% with this post. I went for a screening. After spending about five minutes with an assistant a doctor came in and told me that I was eligible and signed a paper. I was then told that I had to pay $350 for that visit plus $75 for the license and then about $150 month for the product. After that, the license has to be renewed every ten months.

I provided no proof or even evidence of the conditions that I have. They simply took my word. I got the impression that no one gets turned down. The whole thing seemed like an assembly line process.

When I objected to the $350 charge, I was told that if I didn't want to pay, they wouldn't put the paperwork through. I said that that was fine and walked out.

The whole thing currently is a scam. It ought to be sold in liquor stores just like alcohol is.

I tried some that a friend with a license had and found it did nothing to relieve my pain. I also repeatedly asked the nurse and doctor if I had to stay high all the time in order to relieve my pain or if there were residual effects and could not get a straight answer.

People are simply claiming ailments, some of which may be legitimate, but buying this for recreation purposes.

Quixote 07-15-2021 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1972792)
It should be legalized, not just decriminalized. The Florida law is a joke, designed to make money for the state, and for the doctors who pretend to be regulating the sale of Marijuana to only those who have a medical condition. In Florida, anyone who wants a license to buy Marijuana can get one, if they are willing to pay exorbitant amounts of money every year to the doctors and to the state. The screening process is totally ineffective.

Very true. Especially ’The Florida law is … designed to make money for the state and for the doctors who pretend to be regulating the sale of Marijuana [due] to … a medical condition…. if they are willing to pay exorbitant amounts of money every year to the doctors and to the state This is the law, and I follow it, knowing that this is the primary medication that is preventing greater—or possibly complete—loss of what little is left of my eyesight due to glaucoma.

In other states where marijuana is legal, for example Washington, the cost can be half, more or less, of what it is here, there are no ridiculously high—and ongoing—fees to state and doctor, and yes it’s true too that those who use it recreationally can buy it as freely as they can buy liquor.

I cannot even go through security at the airport, since TSA is federal and thus illegal; documented medical necessity is irrelevant. Does this make sense?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1973234)
The tax gains from sales are offset by the people who are are on public assistance b/c of MJ abuse -lazy and unemployable….basic fact that you won’t hear about from MSM….

Please provide documentation for what otherwise sounds like a glibly stated opinion. I can speak only for myself when I say that I am not ‘lazy,’ ‘unemployable’ (though I am retired), and most certainly not on ‘public assistance’! Thank you. (And what is ‘MSM’?)

DanBrew 07-15-2021 06:35 AM

It is a very attractive plant. Why you can't grow a few on your own lanai baffles me. The DEA runs a cost of around $3.1 billion per year and the flippin IRS can't give me my $9k back they owe me. It is yet another failed federal government program that sucks cash from taxpayers. The feds will never decriminalize it for that reason. Remember, there is but one thing that creates bureacracies, and that is bureaucrats.

LonnyP 07-15-2021 06:45 AM

Pot
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

I do. And even after 35 years in law enforcement. Just don't use it out in the public areas or drive.
For those interested about the war on drugs there is a fascinating book out there title
Chasing the Scream. Extremely interesting.

merled 07-15-2021 06:50 AM

Pot
 
I will never support a mind altering drug. We have enough issues with beer, wine and alcohol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?


OrangeBlossomBaby 07-15-2021 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merled (Post 1973295)
I will never support a mind altering drug. We have enough issues with beer, wine and alcohol.

Erm, wine and beer ARE alcohol. And yes they are mind altering drugs.

tvbound 07-15-2021 07:04 AM

Although a moot point for us, since we don't do either, the embracing of alcohol while being against pot is simply a massive hypocrisy. I think it started with the ridiculous and factually wrong short film 'Reefer Madness,' which a lot of now older and highly gullible people, actually still believe. I'll take a bunch of pot smokers, over drinkers, any day. The supposed 'War on Drugs' has been a huge failure, except for those who make a lot of money or wages off of it, or wanted a way to punish minorities even more (re: huge sentencing differences between crack and powder cocaine users).

One of the best comments I've ever heard, that is also at its core very true, is; "Four guys sitting around drinking booze want to start a fight, while four guys sitting around smoking pot - want to start a band." LOL

nn0wheremann 07-15-2021 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1972760)
I read that 75% of Americans support the decriminalization of the use of Marijuana.

Do you?

Regulation has a better chance of working than prohibition. Get the Feds out of it and leave it up to the States


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