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tvbound 02-25-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1907816)
Or was flopping around during the barrel rolls?

That would be my best guess also. Since air bags are designed to immediately inflate, then deflate, upon being triggered by the sensors, it's not hard to imagine that the "barrel rolls" (with the bags deflated) allowed his legs to flail around while tumbling. It's also possible that his left leg was against the door, thus reducing the flailing, while his right one was less secure. After seeing the massive damage to the car, he is lucky that he is still alive and is in my opinion, a real testament to modern day cars and their safety designs, features and crush zones.

sunny56 02-25-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907838)
Bill- Perhaps. Man, all I was pondering was WHY only to his Right leg? Nothing else - nothing sinister. Nothing about the car. Nothing about his actions. Nothing about a miracle. Nothing about anything else.

Simply bringing up a singular (perhaps interesting) topic. I will continue to focus and question, WHY? And will await a hopeful answer from the experts when the investigation provides them.
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His foot probably caught by the gas pedal. When I broke my ankle falling down stairs, the doctor told me it was because I had boots on. The boots restricted the movement of my foot. The body is designed to move so as to not break bones, unless restricted. I think design of the airbags save lives, however, cannot prevent something getting caught and thereby restricting movement and causing bones breaking.

OpusX1 02-25-2021 03:30 PM

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IMO You crash into something at high rate of speed odds are you’re going to die no matter what you’re in

You think so? My wife and I were traveling in N. Carolina 2016, 55 mph speed limit on a two lane rd just outside of Brevard a Postal delivery truck crossed the center line and hit us head on, both vehicles traveling 55 MPH. All 10 of our air bags went off. We were bruised all over but basically walked away. I had a concussion from the airbag and a burn on my arm from a different air bag. My wife broke her collar bone and a rib from the seat belt. We were driving a 2015 Lincoln MKZ.

Velvet 02-25-2021 03:34 PM

Yikes, Opus, what a crash!

I’m personally always surprised to see F1 drivers walk away after crashing into a wall at 250 miles an hour and the car bursting into flames. Safety features have come a long way.

JMintzer 02-25-2021 03:37 PM

Stomping on the brakes, in a front end collision, with cause the very type of lower leg and foot injuries Tiger sustained...

A possible Lis-Franc dislocation of the midfoot was sustained as well as the open fracture of the leg...

I've treated this type of injury to the foot...

DeanFL 02-25-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jmintzer5 (Post 1908043)
Stomping on the brakes, in a front end collision, with cause the very type of lower leg and foot injuries Tiger sustained...

A possible Lis-Franc dislocation of the midfoot was sustained as well as the open fracture of the leg...

I've treated this type of injury to the foot...

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thanks. Initial crash evidence indicated NO skid marks before leaving the road. And it was confirmed he was buckled in. Evidently SOMETHING happened to his right leg to cause all those severe compounded bone breaks. And I must ponder that perhaps that brake/accelerator area may heve been compromised during the rollovers. Time, and evidence, will tell.

Yes, thankfully he survived - that's #1. I just hope that he can survive the painkillers, possible depression, physical recovery, and looong difficult physical therapy.
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Topspinmo 02-25-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 1908036)
You think so? My wife and I were traveling in N. Carolina 2016, 55 mph speed limit on a two lane rd just outside of Brevard a Postal delivery truck crossed the center line and hit us head on, both vehicles traveling 55 MPH. All 10 of our air bags went off. We were bruised all over but basically walked away. I had a concussion from the airbag and a burn on my arm from a different air bag. My wife broke her collar bone and a rib from the seat belt. We were driving a 2015 Lincoln MKZ.

Yes, I do.

Which vehicle weights the most counts and not all head ons are the same. The Ford did exactly as designed saved severe injuries and death in you’re case. I wouldn’t want bet on it again? Did the postal worker survive? There probably thousands of others that didn’t? IMO thankfully you were very lucky 🍀 and nobody would want go through that.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-25-2021 10:50 PM

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IMO You crash into something at high rate of speed odds are you’re going to die no matter what you’re in

Look up Ben Hogan car accident. And remember, Hogan was driving a 1948 Cadillac that was hit head on by a bus.

thesteve685 02-26-2021 07:16 AM

He has a history of wreckles behavior. Let's start with the drug tests, etc. Also, any recent behavioral issues that would affect
his driving? At 7am where was he going at wreakless speeds? Or where did he go? More questions than answers.

Two Bills 02-26-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve685 (Post 1908278)
He has a history of wreckles behavior. Let's start with the drug tests, etc. Also, any recent behavioral issues that would affect
his driving? At 7am where was he going at wreakless speeds? Or where did he go? More questions than answers.

Tests confirmed he had no drugs or alcohol in his system.
He was on his way to a morning tv shoot.
Hope that helps in your investigation.

PS. He was not wreckless either.
He had quite a famous argument with a fire hydrant some years back!:icon_wink:

MandoMan 02-26-2021 07:49 AM

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I read that the new Genesis SUV which Tiger had the crash in - had 10 airbags, including (a first) one in the center console area. Per Genesis description> "middle air-bag (of ten fitted) that inflates between the two first-row seats." Will be very interesting when they determine how his injuries were caused during the crash. He was buckled in, all airbags detonated, and the 'passenger cage' appeared to be intact. How could he have had those terrible right leg injuries? I mean, that leg would have been sandwiched by his left leg and the center console.

Of course the rollovers appear to be the root cause - but being restrained well, and air-bagged... what caused the horrendous injuries to his right leg? I assume that Hyundai/Genesis execs may be very concerned when the details arise... ???Intrusion of engine compartment components into footwell area? Collapse of interior components? Intrusion of center console into the seating area? ???
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Tiger Woods will likely face a lengthy recovery following his near-fatal car crash in Los Angeles this week, experts have said.

Surgeons said the injuries were treated "during emergency surgery by orthopedic trauma specialists." Woods suffered "open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones" that had to be stabilized by inserting a rod in his tibia.

He added that additional bone injuries to his foot and ankle were "stabilized with a combination of screws and pins. Trauma to the muscle and soft-tissue of the leg required surgical release of the covering of the muscles to relieve pressure due to swelling."

"Typically with injuries like that, patients are not allowed to bear any weight on it for the first four to six weeks," he said. "You probably won't be able to put a full amount of weight on it until maybe three months after the surgery."

And he said it would likely be between nine months to a year "for or any sort of decent recovery from an injury like that."

He added that infection is a primary concern because Woods had an "open" fracture, meaning the bone broke through the skin, and the golfer will probably have to undergo additional surgeries in the next few months to stave off infection.

2020 Genesis GV80 review | CarAdvice

An orthopedic surgeon interviewed by the New York Times (reported in the Thursday edition) said that in accidents that lead the driver to brake hard, the sort of right foot, ankle, shin injuries Tiger suffered are very common. The connection between the front end, engine, brake pedal, etc. transfers the force through to the right foot on the brake pedal. Because the driver is trying to straighten out that leg with maximum pressure, it doesn’t give much, so the bone breaks and muscle fibers tear and bruise. The left leg is fine because it’s not pressing down. The air bags provide cushioning to many areas, but not to the right foot. That takes the force of the collision. It’s such a shame. At least he was wearing his seatbelt, it seems.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-26-2021 07:56 AM

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He has a history of wreckles behavior. Let's start with the drug tests, etc. Also, any recent behavioral issues that would affect
his driving? At 7am where was he going at wreakless speeds? Or where did he go? More questions than answers.

A history of "reckless" behavior???? Where? When?? What???

He's had a few incidents in his life. For the most part he has been a great father and upstanding human being.

People like Tiger live under a microscope and the press blows up every little incident making them seem much bigger than they are.

1) He cheated on his wife with multiple women. If you think that he's the only celebrity to do this, you're naive. I don't mean to justify it, it was wrong, he fessed up and apologized and voluntarily sought counseling.

2) He had a car accident while under the influence of drugs. He has had multiple back surgeries and knee surgeries. He was given pain meds by his doctor and mixed some without realizing the effect they would have. Again, he admitted a mistake and never did it again.

Please list all of the rest of his history of reckless behavior.

Tiger Woods has accomplished much in his life and has done a lot of good for a lot of people. His TGR Foundation supports community-based programs that improve the health, education, and welfare of all children in America. Currently, the foundation has established several programs and events such as the TGR Learning Labs, Hero World Challenge, Genesis Open, The National, and Tiger Jam which all benefit and impact the lives of millions of children.

Millions of African Americans, mostly young people have taken up golf because of Tiger.

The Tiger Woods Foundation is about empowering minorities, especially underprivileged minority students. The TGRF’s goal is for these students to be given the support and resources needed to be successful in school and beyond. In over the 20 years that this foundation has been opened they have served more than 175,000 students, as well as employing 1,000 educators each year. The foundation has been so successful due to its goal of “developing self-advocacy skills in young people,” that their students have a 98.7% college graduation rate, which is one of the highest graduation rates of a scholarship program in the country.

And people want to hate this guy because he is human and made a few mistakes. He's used cuss words on the golf course and tossed a club on occasion, as have many golfers at every level including the PGA Tour. The difference with Tiger is that he's on camera way more than any other player so he gets caught more often.

Other than that, he works as hard as anyone that has ever played any sport in and effort to become the best that ever lived. That is a great lesson for your people. In fact it's a great lesson for all of us.

On top of all that, he's a great father to his two children. He spends a lot of time with them in spite of the fact that they live with their mother, with whom he gets along very well these days.

Tiger is human and has made a few mistakes, but the good that he has done for the world and pleasure that he has brought to millions of people worldwide far outweighs a few "reckless" incidents.

A history of reckless behavior? I don't think so.

Girlcopper 02-26-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907838)
Bill- Perhaps. Man, all I was pondering was WHY only to his Right leg? Nothing else - nothing sinister. Nothing about the car. Nothing about his actions. Nothing about a miracle. Nothing about anything else.

Simply bringing up a singular (perhaps interesting) topic. I will continue to focus and question, WHY? And will await a hopeful answer from the experts when the investigation provides them.
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Who cares? I have more important things to wonder about and wait for answers to. An air bag protects you from an impact. Theres always a possibility that an arm, a leg may get wedged in somewhere and snap. They said he had a compound fracture. Thats not a crushing injury from impact. And I hadnt really thought much about it untilI saw this post because as I said, who cares? Unless, you intend to buy a vehicle just like his which I seriously doubt

DeanFL 02-26-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1908324)
Who cares? I have more important things to wonder about and wait for answers to. An air bag protects you from an impact. Theres always a possibility that an arm, a leg may get wedged in somewhere and snap. They said he had a compound fracture. Thats not a crushing injury from impact. And I hadnt really thought much about it untilI saw this post because as I said, who cares? Unless, you intend to buy a vehicle just like his which I seriously doubt

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oh boy. "Who cares"? Well, apparently I do. And the reason for my post. So now a person cannot question something and ponder 'Why'? Are YOU not interested in something and ask a question? Perhaps not... But that's how interested people grow and converse and learn.

I DID learn, thx posters, about the stress on the right leg and brake etc. If I didn't 'care', and didn't post, and others respond, I would not have learned this. However that would make more sense to me if there was evidence of hard braking by Tiger. No tire markings on pavement. But time will tell - for interested people who care.
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Bill1701 02-26-2021 08:21 AM

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Apparently his PRIMARY injury was solely to his entire RIGHT LEG. Of course I'm NOT disputing that safety advancements in auto engineering- Saved HIS and many many other lives. The question I ponder is - Why only his Right Leg? Apparently all other parts of Tiger were protected pretty well.
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From what I have read, severe right leg injuries are very common in this type of accident. It could be due to many reasons, but I'm not an engineer so I don't know all the details.


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