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Lottoguy 07-04-2017 07:33 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience. There have been studies how people handle this subject. Will look again for those to post. Those who automatically call them a hoax are now in the miniority. There is one study that says 70% believe that UFO's are real. And 50% of them believe the government is hiding the truth. Google "world war 2 foo fighters" for another example of their existence.

Taltarzac725 07-04-2017 07:35 AM
Majestic 12 - Wikipedia

I did find this. Project BLUE BOOK - Unidentified Flying Objects | National Archives

FBI — Majestic 12

I do believe that we are not alone in the Universe and have come into contact but there are a lot of people out here who will take advantage of people as much as possible. So it is better to really dig into these subjects even if some people in the government also often want to hide things especially if it makes them look bad.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 07:37 AM
People who see these things do not want to be called a fool or nutcase. There are also documents showing how the government uses that to discredit witnesses. Every week NASA finds more habitable planets. It's only a matter of time before people realize the truth about them.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 07:39 AM
Wikipedia is not to be trusted for reputable information. Even colleges don't accept their input. Their always short on the most important points.

Taltarzac725 07-04-2017 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1420497)
Wikipedia is not to be trusted for reputable information. Even colleges don't accept their input. Their always short on the most important points.
They are just a starting point to other resources. College professors do not want lazy researchers and some Wikipedia articles you are right are not all that good.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 07:47 AM
That press conference in 1994 about Roswell was so funny to watch. The press saw right thru the cover-up.

Roswell Report: Case Closed - Press Conference - 06/24/97 (3 of 3) - YouTube

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 09:03 AM
There is a treasure trove of documents on this web site. You can spend hours reading all about the cover-up and how it is being maintained. Here is also an interesting study of body language of President Obama when confronted with this subject. Note his breathing is accelerated during the exchange of questions from Jimmy Kimmel.

Rockefeller Initiative Documents

Analysis of President Obama's Interview on UFOs with Jimmy Kimmel - YouTube

graciegirl 07-04-2017 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1420465)
Is the document real? Who knows. Could it be? Sure. However if you don't believe in life on other planets you are very naive. According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe. They've counted the galaxies in a particular region, and multiplied this up to estimate the number for the whole universe.

In just our galaxy, the Milky Way, each star is a sun or some type of burning object. If in the Milky Way galaxy one in every 100,000 starts were a sun like our sun. And if one in every 100,000 of those had planets revolving around it. And if one in every 100,000 of those plants had the capability to sustain life. In just the Milky Way galaxy there would be 100,000 plants with life.

Now maybe that life is a million years behind us and still a probe or a germ of some type of life form, or maybe it's a million years more advanced than ours. But if just one of those planets had life like ours and was maybe 10,000 years advanced from us could they travel here? Probably.

Multiply that possibility by 100 billion galaxies. There has to be other life out there more advanced than us. Statistically it's not possible there is not life on other planets.
Of course what you have to say is logical.

BUT WHY would ANY government want to hide any information about any visit from any thing or person from outside our known world? What would be the point? That isn't logical.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 11:12 AM
I suggest you read the book "A D After Disclosure" by Richard Dolan and Bryce Zabel. This book goes into great detail as to why the truth embargo has been in place since the 1940's. Two quick reasons are the effect on our religious beliefs and our current energy needs. Let's face it, UFO's are not getting here on unleaded gasoline and a can of Redbull. They are using alternative energy. Energy that would mean no need for fossil fuels. Then people will start to look at the wars fought over oil. They would never have been necessary if this new fuel source had been available all these years. Think of all the lives lost and other costs that could have been prevented. A giant can of worms right now is closed. But, when opened, watch out.

Churchill Ordered UFO Coverup, Documents Suggest | Fox News
Churchill ordered UFO cover-up, National Archives show - BBC News
No Panic over UFO Sightings - The Churchill Project - Hillsdale College

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golfing eagles 07-04-2017 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1420450)
Lottoguy; I believe that report. here is why.

On an August day with blue skies and plenty of sunshine at (3:00 PM) in 1969 I was on a road that cut between two state highways in Central New York hence referred to as Short Cut Road.

I noticed what I first thought was a plane but a closer look told me it was something entirely different.

In my haste I pulled my car to the left shoulder of the road and got out. In that short time the object was now hovering over a small hill and it was so large it blocked out the horizon.

I did not notice any openings nor light nor sound on this object. it was a if I were looking at the bottom of a aluminum kitchen bowl. I stood gazing at this object in complete awe

it suddenly occurred to me to reach in my car window for my camera to take a picture. In that short time and before I could focus the sight of my camera this object in a backward Z motion disappeared from view and without making a single sound .

I never repeated this story not even to my wife until 1973 and her only comment was please don't repeat this to anyone. I replied that if I had not witnessed this with my own eyes I would not have believed it either.

Occam Razor applies here but some people simply cannot wrap their minds around the concept of others occupying our universe. Indeed some reading this will discount me as less than credible and illogical and so I share this at my own peril.
What you saw was Mayor Lattimore dropping "urban renewal" on downtown Auburn:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 07-04-2017 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1420465)
Is the document real? Who knows. Could it be? Sure. However if you don't believe in life on other planets you are very naive. According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe. They've counted the galaxies in a particular region, and multiplied this up to estimate the number for the whole universe.

In just our galaxy, the Milky Way, each star is a sun or some type of burning object. If in the Milky Way galaxy one in every 100,000 starts were a sun like our sun. And if one in every 100,000 of those had planets revolving around it. And if one in every 100,000 of those plants had the capability to sustain life. In just the Milky Way galaxy there would be 100,000 plants with life.

Now maybe that life is a million years behind us and still a probe or a germ of some type of life form, or maybe it's a million years more advanced than ours. But if just one of those planets had life like ours and was maybe 10,000 years advanced from us could they travel here? Probably.

Multiply that possibility by 100 billion galaxies. There has to be other life out there more advanced than us. Statistically it's not possible there is not life on other planets.
They have actually upped their estimates to from 500 billion to 1 trillion galaxies with an average of 400 billion stars each. If you plug that into the Drake equation, there could be upwards of 40 TRILLION civilizations as advanced or more so than us out there. However, given the distances, you need to travel many times faster than light to get anywhere, so Einstein has to be wrong, or there have to be wormholes or the ability to artificially create them, or warp drive, or hyperspatial travel, or something. Add to that our location in our galaxy and in the universe as a whole is somewhat less than prominent, it's hard to believe any of them have ever visited us-----they would have 40 trillion other destinations, most of them probably more interesting than Earth.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 01:54 PM
A few hundred years ago it took you months to circle the globe. Then a little quicker by balloon. Then a little faster by airplane. The faster by commercial jet. Then in only 90 minutes via the space shuttle. All this speed in just a couple of hundred years. Now imagine an advanced civilization somewhere in the galaxy thousands or millions of years ahead of on Earth?
The speed of light is often mentioned when it comes to interstellar space travel. But we have only learned about that in just the last century or so. We have so much to learn. Wormholes are a possibility to shortcut the distances. So is folding space and time much like folding a piece of paper to short the distance between two points.
Here is something else to think about since we are also wondering if we have been visited in the past. Enjoy:

WIN EVERY PYRAMID DEBATE WITH THIS FACT! - YouTube
08 The Great Pyramid - Secrets in Plain Sight - YouTube

justjim 07-04-2017 02:04 PM
Just the advancement of technology in my few short years on this planet, I believe anything to be possible. In fact we have advanced to the point that it's possible that we could very well destroy ourselves and our planet too. As far as ET'S are concerned, common sense tells me that if they are real and pay a visit to our planet, we (all of us) will undoubtedly know about it. Fore!

vintageogauge 07-04-2017 02:59 PM
The aliens that landed here and survived are living with big foot out in the woods somewhere. They have a magnetic shield of sorts that prevents all the big foot followers from taking clear photos. Their way of thanking big foot for taking them in was to give him a similar shield thus no clear photos of him either. If they would not have had that technology we would have seen hundreds if not thousands of photos of both big foot and the aliens. Darn.

Lottoguy 07-04-2017 10:09 PM
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you know nothing about.


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