Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 595187)

over 100 shots in less than two minutes. One child had 11 bullet holes. Who needs these sort of weapons to protect themselves or go hunt?

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 594736)

I have stayed out of the gun control discussion, largely because for some inexplicable reason it becomes highly politicized. Perhaps it is time for all Americans, including the NRA, to agree that assault weapons, oversized cartridge clips and the gun show exeption to gun registration need to be outlawed. Owning guns for personal safety, and/or hunting is a constitutional right that I agree with. However, I see NO reason that any law abiding citizen needs an assault or automatic weapon, or an oversized cartridge clip. We settled long ago on the prudence of requiring registration for those purchasing weapons, so why does the gunshow exemption persist? I own guns and come from a long line of hunters, yet I see no reason that anyone supports the issues I have outlined. The NRA is simply afraid that any control will ultimately lead to complete control of firearms, and that is simply not the will of the majority of the people in my opinion. We need to keep the right to bear "reasonable" arms that make sense for civilians, but not weapons that should only be in the hands of soldiers and law enforcement officers. I expect to hear opposition to this opinion - so be it.

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 595415)

:agree:

It seems now is the perfect time to address this issue. The NRA will probably deny that guns is not the issue but how can one not say that access to these type of weapons should not be avilable to the general public. They should be in the hands of the military and other reponsible law enforcement agencies.

I see no reason why a sane person would need a gun that contains many bullets fired at a rapid rate to defend themselves. To think otherwise is pure folly.

I have been reading many articles on this tradgedy and I am still sick over how many babies were slaughtered. Six and seven year olds never to grow up and have children of their own. They had a right to expect a life with so much promise. :pray:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 595415)

:agree:

It seems now is the perfect time to address this issue. The NRA will probably deny that guns is not the issue but how can one not say that access to these type of weapons should not be avilable to the general public. They should be in the hands of the military and other reponsible law enforcement agencies.

I see no reason why a sane person would need a gun that contains many bullets fired at a rapid rate to defend themselves. To think otherwise is pure folly.

I have been reading many articles on this tradgedy and I am still sick over how many babies were slaughtered. Six and seven year olds never to grow up and have children of their own. They had a right to expect a life with so much promise. :pray:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 595419)

Maybe, there is a possibility that some foreign power will invade the US at some date or some radical military group will take over a territory or some section of a state like with Idaho's various militias.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 595427)

You might want to apologize to the Good Citizens of Idaho, List of U.S. Militia Groups « DarkGovernment They are not even listed on this website.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 595430)

'Teeth of the Constitution:' Light Foot Militia rises in Idaho's backcountry - PhotoBlog

Militia movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 595436)

I hope not to offend anyone on here, but Timothy McVey was involved in a militia group, I find them all terrorists and enemies of the United States Of America. We have democratic ways to make our government work for us, and if you feel there would ever be a reason to rise up against our government, please get help.

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 595441)

to refer to the killers mother as a "responsible gun owner" is simply just not true.
As evidenced by the tragedy in CT.

It is an affront and insult to the real, responsible gun owners.

When will the conversations shift from the killer to the victims and their families and their plight in the near future? Must not be controversial or abrasive enough as exemplified by the main streams media placing the priority coverage on the killer and how he did it and speculating beyond their intellectual capacity.

btk

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 594991)

You can thank our criminal congress critters for allowing all the PC on the mental cases to be roaming the streets.

Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 595424)

Just as much damage could have been afflicted with a pump action shotgun or just handguns. In this case the gunman was not challenged so reloading was not so much an issue. I don't know why anyone would "need" an assault rifle but the bottom line is it's not guns that are the problem here..

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 595441)

to refer to the killers mother as a "responsible gun owner" is simply just not true.
As evidenced by the tragedy in CT.

It is an affront and insult to the real, responsible gun owners.

When will the conversations shift from the killer to the victims and their families and their plight in the near future? Must not be controversial or abrasive enough as exemplified by the main streams media placing the priority coverage on the killer and how he did it and speculating beyond their intellectual capacity.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 595441)

to refer to the killers mother as a "responsible gun owner" is simply just not true.
As evidenced by the tragedy in CT.

It is an affront and insult to the real, responsible gun owners.

When will the conversations shift from the killer to the victims and their families and their plight in the near future? Must not be controversial or abrasive enough as exemplified by the main streams media placing the priority coverage on the killer and how he did it and speculating beyond their intellectual capacity.

btk

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 595339)

Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened in Newtown, CT.

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
...
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."