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Fastskiguy 06-24-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1659638)
I do not, frankly, see why they would want anything to do with us.

Most alien abduction stories involve some sort of "probing" so...maybe it's that? ;)

Fastskiguy 06-24-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1659872)
Let's look at some numbers. The Milky Way Galaxy (our Galaxy) is 100,000 light years across and contains about 100 billion stars. There are about 100 billion galaxies. We have been transmitting electromagnetic energy to space for about 100 years. That means other civilizations within 100 light years may know about us, if they were listening on the correct frequency. Assuming a civilization within 100 light years knows about us, what is probability that they have advanced enough technology to travel here in a reasonable amount of time? What is the probability that if they had sufficient technology to come here that they would? There is no evidence that we have been visited and the extreme distances and large number of possibly habitable planets makes the probability of visitations to our particular planet remote.

This ^^

It's hard to imaging any way to go faster than the speed of light and with the distances we're talking...that is way way too slow. Plus you've got the time distortion issue to deal with. Take a trip to Earth and when you get back you find your great great great grandchildren are older than you.

Topspinmo 06-24-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1659850)
There is no such thing as Bigfoot and we have not been visited by aliens.

Finely a know it all with all the answers:1rotfl: biker will be impressed

manaboutown 06-24-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1659850)
There is no such thing as Bigfoot and we have not been visited by aliens.

And circa 1491 “We all know the earth is flat.”

biker1 06-24-2019 06:45 PM

Blah ,blah, blah. Clueless till the end ;-)

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1660007)
Finely a know it all with all the answers:1rotfl: biker will be impressed


JoelJohnson 06-24-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1659851)
Who’s science? Ours in our solar system?

Then, why the cover ups? The federal government is master of cover ups. From the bottom to top and from the top down. Only few really know what really happens and minimize the publicity due to career ambition. IMO the reason for most covers ups are due to major of people are mentally incapable of dealing with the truth.

The government couldn't keep the biggest secret of WW II - the atomic bomb! Stalin knew about it long before we used it on Japan. How do you think they could keep real aliens secret?

vitacr 06-24-2019 08:17 PM

Why they would have an interest in Earth is hard to understand. It appears they are far superior in technology. I saw a UFO in NJ 11pm one evening in the early 70's. No doubt, it was too close - no sound, cigar shaped with lights all around - moved slowly up the peninsula & shown a very bright light periodically - returned to my location & sped off into the sky at supersonic speed & no noise. Unforgetable...........

Taltarzac725 06-24-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vitacr (Post 1660040)
Why they would have an interest in Earth is hard to understand. It appears they are far superior in technology. I saw a UFO in NJ 11pm one evening in the early 70's. No doubt, it was too close - no sound, cigar shaped with lights all around - moved slowly up the peninsula & shown a very bright light periodically - returned to my location & sped off into the sky at supersonic speed & no noise. Unforgetable...........

Probably to see when and if we can get further than the moon and what kind of weapons we have now. Nuclear weaponry would be a worry even if they were far more sophisticated technologically than us.

manaboutown 06-24-2019 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1660048)
Probably to see when and if we can get further than the moon and what kind of weapons we have now. Nuclear weaponry would be a worry even if they were far more sophisticated technologically than us.

I imagine a civilization a million to one hundred million or more years older than ours would consider our nukes children’s fireworks.

Topspinmo 06-24-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1660023)
The government couldn't keep the biggest secret of WW II - the atomic bomb! Stalin knew about it long before we used it on Japan. How do you think they could keep real aliens secret?

Do you know anything about government?

Topspinmo 06-24-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1660022)
Blah ,blah, blah. Clueless till the end ;-)

See, I knew you would be impressed, chip off the old block

EnglishJW 06-25-2019 08:03 AM

As Steven Hawking said (paraphrasing) - If aliens arrive from somewhere way out there we better hope they are friendly.

manaboutown 06-25-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EnglishJW (Post 1660093)
As Steven Hawking said (paraphrasing) - If aliens arrive from somewhere way out there we better hope they are friendly.

Yes because what would be the purpose of their exploration other than to locate and settle on inhabitable planets themselves?

biker1 06-25-2019 08:24 AM

Not necessarily. They might want to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life and new civilizations.

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1660102)
Yes because what would be the purpose of their exploration other than to locate and settle on inhabitable planets themselves?


buzzy 06-25-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1660105)
Not necessarily. They might want to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life and new civilizations.

Or looking for a place to ship their recyclables.

flyguy909 06-25-2019 01:43 PM

You know when you actually see one it tends to shape your opinion. Fifty years ago one night my friend and I were in my back yard in CT. It was the 60's and we would get a kick out of spotting satellites. All of a sudden these 3 glowing disks go right over us at less than 1000 feet.. about the size of small planes. The thing of it was they were going at a very high rate of speed and did not make a single sound. At the time I was in Civil Air Patrol and knew alot about different types of aircraft.. and I know what I saw was not one of 'ours'. Of course our parents laughed it off.

I found out a few years later that a cop on the night shift in the next town over sat in his cruiser one night and watched a disk hover over an electric sub station for several minutes. This sub station is about a mile from my house. He reported it and was ridiculed off the force. I think he wrote a book or an article that was published somewhere about the incident and it's aftermath.

manaboutown 06-25-2019 03:39 PM

One of the men I knew who experienced a UFO sighting was a high level executive in a US subsidiary of a large Japanese company. He was Japanese, not an American. The other one had founded, built and run two successful Silicon Valley companies. Both had engineering degrees. I have known a few others who shared UFO stories confidentially after they got to know me well. They were scientists or engineers, not flakes.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EnglishJW (Post 1660093)
As Steven Hawking said (paraphrasing) - If aliens arrive from somewhere way out there we better hope they are friendly.

And hope they're papers are in order, otherwise they would be...illegal aliens.




:D

Lottoguy 06-26-2019 09:34 AM

Our club called Exopolitics meets here in The Villages on the third Friday at Laurel Manor. We have been covering this subject for over five years now. If you want to learn more then drop in and learn a few things. Sorry to say, almost all of you have no idea what your talking about. To put it lightly WERE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU! Have a nice day...

Lottoguy 06-26-2019 09:37 AM

Just because we can't get there doesn't mean they can't get here. They would be so far advanced that to us it would look like magic. These sightings have been going of for centuries.

Lottoguy 06-26-2019 09:45 AM

There were actually over 100,000 people involved in making the atomic bomb. NOT one of them knew what they were making. It was all perfectly handled thru compartmentalization. A practice the government had mastered. Throw in the saying "need to know" and that doubles the security needed.

Lottoguy 06-26-2019 09:51 AM

This 15 page document has been vetted as authentic. Imgur: The magic of the Internet

UFO LEAK OF THE CENTURY. Richard Dolan Analyzes the Admiral Wilson Notes. - YouTube

There is more, much more that none of you are aware of.

biker1 06-26-2019 09:52 AM

This is simply not true. Many at Los Alamos knew exactly what they were making. Your average worker at Oak Ridge had no idea what they were doing.

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1660337)
There were actually over 100,000 people involved in making the atomic bomb. NOT one of them knew what they were making. It was all perfectly handled thru compartmentalization. A practice the government had mastered. Throw in the saying "need to know" and that doubles the security needed.


biker1 06-26-2019 09:54 AM

The height of hubris. LOL.

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1660331)
Our club called Exopolitics meets here in The Villages on the third Friday at Laurel Manor. We have been covering this subject for over five years now. If you want to learn more then drop in and learn a few things. Sorry to say, almost all of you have no idea what your talking about. To put it lightly WERE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU! Have a nice day...


fl boomer 06-26-2019 04:51 PM

History Channel has been doing a whole series on UFO's and the interviews with Ryan Graves has been part of it. I think we've watched 3 episodes so far, and there are more scheduled.

Fastskiguy 06-27-2019 12:15 PM

Wait a second here....people are saying UFO's are a thing but nobody is really saying creatures from other planets are visiting Earth...are they?

Nucky 06-27-2019 12:36 PM

They are here. They Post Amongst Us! :1rotfl:

Bucco 06-27-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1660338)
This 15 page document has been vetted as authentic. Imgur: The magic of the Internet

UFO LEAK OF THE CENTURY. Richard Dolan Analyzes the Admiral Wilson Notes. - YouTube

There is more, much more that none of you are aware of.

I will bite.....you posted a link from a self proclaimed "entertainment site" thus will ask you this question....

WHO vetted it as authentic ?

This is all from one Richard Dolan....

"Richard Michael Dolan (/ˈdoʊlən/; born July 1, 1962) is an American author, historian, publisher, and conspiracy theory analyst, who specializes in the history of the UFO phenomenon, as well as analysis of conspiracy theories, United States national security and the Cold War."

Richard M. Dolan - Wikipedia

i will stick with scientific fact. I have no idea of the truth but lacking any, not one piece of, credible evidence, I will look beyond the conspiracy theories, which any person can begin it seems and it will "get legs" on the internet.

National Enquirer has made a bundle of money off those that "want" a conspiracy theory, and it is "entertainment".

Conspiracy theories lacking concrete facts will eat your mind. This was the rage in the 50's and sixties without the internet and youtube to assist in spreading this stuff.

Is there not enough in the REAL world of interest or worry without manufacturing conspiracy theories ?

Bucco 06-27-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1660559)
They are here. The Post Amongst Us! :1rotfl:

If you meant They, then I agree.

ColdNoMore 06-27-2019 04:38 PM

Keeping in mind y'all, that there is just as much actual proof or credible evidence proving UFO's are extraterrestrial...as there is that God exists.

Meaning none, as it really boils down to personal beliefs...and just 'faith.'

Just saying.



:duck:

Fastskiguy 06-27-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1660605)
Keeping in mind y'all, that there is just as much actual proof or credible evidence proving UFO's are extraterrestrial...as there is that God exists.

Meaning none, as it really boils down to personal beliefs...and just 'faith.'

Just saying.



:duck:

Well that definitely stirs the pot! Though I would like to know how religious scientists deal with the supernatural aspects of religion. But that might be a post for another thread :)

Nucky 06-27-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1660561)
If you meant They, then I agree.

Thanks, Bucco, I'll rest well now. Do you point out when everyone misspells a word or am I a favorite target?

dewilson58 06-27-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1660559)
They are here. They Post Amongst Us! :1rotfl:




It's difficult for me to hide my green tail when I golf.

BobnBev 06-27-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1660605)
Keeping in mind y'all, that there is just as much actual proof or credible evidence proving UFO's are extraterrestrial...as there is that God exists.

Meaning none, as it really boils down to personal beliefs...and just 'faith.'

Just saying.



:duck:

Just because you are unaware of credible evidence,doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're welcome.

Bucco 06-27-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1660627)
Thanks, Bucco, I'll rest well now. Do you point out when everyone misspells a word or am I a favorite target?

Once you get set in your mind, you never change.

It was a joke......sorry if you are so easily offended.

I will certainly be more careful in the future.

Mea culpa.....you do reserve your humor it appears.

And for the record, you are the first, and I thought it was obviously in jest, but you live and learn.....

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-27-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1660605)
Keeping in mind y'all, that there is just as much actual proof or credible evidence proving UFO's are extraterrestrial...as there is that God exists.

Meaning none, as it really boils down to personal beliefs...and just 'faith.'

Just saying.



:duck:

Faulty comparison. Better comparison:
UFOs exist vs. God exists.

Another better comparison:
UFOs are extraterrestrial vs. God is a supernatural being.

Another better comparison:
UFOs are actually secret government projects
vs.
God is actually a really big male who sits on a throne with a long white beard wearing a robe who talks like Charlton Heston with sound distortion turned on.

The problem with that is - we already know UFOs exist. We have the UFOs themselves as proof of this. What is their source of origin? That's another problem. Speculation is that the government KNOWS the source of origin, and they're just not telling you. Just like evangelical TV ministers insist they know God, that God speaks to them personally and wants you to buy them a jet plane.

Who is telling the truth, who is making things up? Inquiring minds want to know.

ColdNoMore 06-27-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1660652)
Faulty comparison. Better comparison:
UFOs exist vs. God exists.

Another better comparison:
UFOs are extraterrestrial vs. God is a supernatural being.

Another better comparison:
UFOs are actually secret government projects
vs.
God is actually a really big male who sits on a throne with a long white beard wearing a robe who talks like Charlton Heston with sound distortion turned on.

The problem with that is - we already know UFOs exist. We have the UFOs themselves as proof of this. What is their source of origin? That's another problem. Speculation is that the government KNOWS the source of origin, and they're just not telling you. Just like evangelical TV ministers insist they know God, that God speaks to them personally and wants you to buy them a jet plane.

Who is telling the truth, who is making things up? Inquiring minds want to know.


Sorry...all wrong. ;)


I'll stick with my original comparison...as it's the most accurate.
:D

gego3650 06-28-2019 08:22 AM

I would agree with you but Once you have seen one views change.I stood under something that was only a few hundred feet over me.Watched it heard it and saw who ever piloted it in it.The report even uses my last name as the it's name and was done by Hynek.Yes other people saw it.No it wasn't a disk it was like a 707 but only the wings no cabin.And it was a cloud free evening.It made a slight humming sound and stayed over me for 5 mins and then stated to drift away until I lost it in the tree line.I drove to a better viewing area but it was gone.This was 10/27/74 might be off by couple of days but it is public record and was only about 4 miles from Ohare airport in Chicago

Bucco 06-28-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1660644)
Just because you are unaware of credible evidence,doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're welcome.

1. You "imply" that there IS credible evidence, and the poster is not aware. Please share.

2. Using your premise, we should discuss goblins under the bridge at Sumter Landing. Have no credible evidence thus it means it may exist.

Again, UFO....unidentified flying objects are just that...UNIDENTIFIED.

Kenswing 06-28-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1660826)
This forum is for people to discuss and express their opinions Opinion | Definition of Opinion by Merriam-Webster
Not for some obnoxious self righteous know-it-alls to demand facts and links that are simply what they choose to believe. If you were actually an intelligent person you would realize that you know nothing Socrates - The only true wisdom is in knowing you know....
So take that “fact” and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.

Now maybe they will delete my account!

You have to do way better than that. That doesn't even qualify for a trip to the Penalty Box.. :1rotfl:


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