Please forgive me for being skeptical.

Many stir the pot posts on here. Many directed at ME particularly.

Again, hope for meaningful discussion of a topical and important event in today's news and in history is thwarted.

I understand that. It isn't right that some will do anything to stop a topic that is on all of our minds. If you read back on posts from posters who ONLY want to stir the pot, you see the same over and over and over. Disagreement with topics that most people here agree with.

I am going to look up what Contrarian means. And I will bump Sandra's post. By the way Shrandell is an American Citizen born in the U.K.

bumping back to topic.

Posting a picture that shows the reality is a reason to close down the thread? A reaction like that is symptomatic of the problem.

Re Gracie:
Sometimes I just really wish this site had a "like" button, a la Facebook!

As a Muslim may we hear your views on the recent ISIS beheading of Americans?
And their intent to do more as well as killing as many Americans as they can?

Still waiting for a reply BTK?...

Thank You

I think TexaninVA's point was regarding the desire to close down the thread as a reaction to posting a picture that speaks a thousand words.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with you. It's amazing to me that our leaders are so completely unprepared and caught off guard on this subject. As it so happens I watched a show on Cinemax last night called THE UNTOLD HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. It was very interesting to see the negative portrayal of both of our last 2 presidents on foreign policy issues. Take a look if you get a chance. I guess thats what we get when we have no objective criteria for candidates for public office in order to qualify to run.

The silence is deafening!

Methinks that post was one of those used on this site to derail adult conversation if subject is drifting contrary to those of their "affiliations" !

Kudos to admin for trying to allow adult conversation on current events as long as possible in the face of people becoming "flamers" in lieu of having honest, non affiliated conversations.

Keep in mind that while we all concentrate on Iraq and Syria, that the evil and turmoil is world wide.

This is VERY scary....in Libya....commercial airplanes taken by terrorists....I am not by nature an alarmist, but wonder why not much is being made in the USA about this...the media I am speaking of...

"Libyan Islamist rebels pose with planes seized from Tripoli airport as U.S. officials warn they could be used to carry out terrorist attack on 9/11 anniversary"

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"September 11 not only marks the anniversary of the attacks on the World Trade Center but it will also be the second anniversary of the raid of the U.S. Ambassador's compound in Benghazi, Libya.

Four Americans were killed in the attack, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Ansar al-Shariah, the group Washington holds responsible for the attack, have also seized parts of the Libyan capital and are known to work with terrorists from ISIS."

I haven't seen this but I read the reviews/ratings on imdb.com and I intend to watch it. I like facts just as any other thinking person should. HOWEVER,

I see in the reviewers 10-star reviews this burning desire to DIVIDE us all--half on the left and half on the right--and mockery with the words "hey all you rush-bots" etc. shows the obvious slant and agenda with which the series was made. The synopses say that this exposes BOTH partisan sides' guilt, but I think we know Oliver Stone's slant. That said,

When are people going to wake up and heed what Lincoln and other forefathers of this great nation said, based on the admonition so aptly recorded in the words of Christ in the Gospel of Mark, and reiterated in Lincoln's most famous speech and passage:

"The best-known passage of Lincoln's speech is:

A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free."

"Origins of the phrase "House Divided"

In Mark 3:25, Jesus states, "And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand", in response to the scribes' claim that "by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils."

Also, in the gospel of Matthew 12:25, KJV:

25 And Je'sus knew their thoughts, and said unto him, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

Thomas Hobbes, in his 1651 Leviathan (Chapter 18), stated that, "a kingdom divided in itself cannot stand."

In Thomas Paine's 1776 Common Sense, his description of the composition of Monarchy, "this hath all the distinctions of a house divided against itself . . ."

During the War of 1812 a line appeared in a letter from Abigail Adams to Mercy Otis Warren: "... A house divided upon itself - and upon that foundation do our enemies build their hopes of subduing us."

The "house divided" phrase had been used by Lincoln himself in another context in 1843.

Most famously, eight years before Lincoln's speech, during the Senate debate on the Compromise of 1850, Sam Houston had proclaimed: "A nation divided against itself cannot stand."
(wikipedia)

STOP trying to divide us or we'll all hang together as "The Exterminated"!
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We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

Benjamin Franklin