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golfing eagles 09-15-2021 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mrrmauu (Post 2004108)
This information is very relevant to a retirement community. <sarcasm>

You're right---none of us have grandchildren <sarcasm>

Bhighley 09-15-2021 05:06 AM

CDC said masks didn’t work at protecting against covid before they said to wear a mask to prevent the spread of Covid.. cDc said you don’t need to wear a mask outside before they said to wear a mask outside. They said the vaccine worked at preventing Covid before they said the said the vaccine doesn’t prevent the spread of covid. Now we have to have the unvaccinated get vaccinated to protect the vaccinated… I believe the CDC as much as I believe CNN.

golfing eagles 09-15-2021 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhighley (Post 2004119)
CDC said masks didn’t work at protecting against covid before they said to wear a mask to prevent the spread of Covid.. cDc said you don’t need to wear a mask outside before they said to wear a mask outside. They said the vaccine worked at preventing Covid before they said the said the vaccine doesn’t prevent the spread of covid. Now we have to have the unvaccinated get vaccinated to protect the vaccinated… I believe the CDC as much as I believe CNN.

Then who DO you believe????? TOTV????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

thevillages2013 09-15-2021 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2004031)
Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

Cold and flu was lower because much of it was misdiagnosed as Covid

Joe C. 09-15-2021 05:34 AM

If your eyeglasses fog up when wearing a mask, you might be eligible for condensation.:1rotfl:

Petersweeney 09-15-2021 05:42 AM

Your going to….
 
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2004129)
If your eyeglasses fog up when wearing a mask, you might be eligible for condensation.:1rotfl:

Live a long life brother!

KRMACK55 09-15-2021 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

This statement about children and mask mandates is a joke right? The parents have the right not a mob not the masses etc.

KRMACK55 09-15-2021 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004018)
How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

Reason why flus and colds weren’t reported is because feds media and others weren’t reporting them. There was heart disease cancer etc yet those weren’t reported. There is no contact tracing data nor true deaths as states were handed money to report Covid cases. Sounds like Alfred Hitchcock to me. Sheez

Byte1 09-15-2021 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

This is a good one...:1rotfl:
Adults do not "wear masks properly" and yet children will.....:1rotfl:
Since we all agree that cloth and paper masks are of little value, I suppose you will also mandate that schools provide N95 masks for the children?
This is a slippery slope, even if it is taken seriously. First off, once you mandate a mask how will that mandate ever be lifted? Who will decide? Will a mask be mandated during flu season also, since more children are affected by the flu than by Covid? Will a mask mandate be enforced for anyone that has a cold?
Let the parents decide what they wish for their children and leave others out of it, ESPECIALLY the Feds. Not experts? Maybe not, but they are responsible for their own children, not other families' children.
I can see it now, high school kids are going to make out with their girlfriends with their masks on, smoke in the parking lot with their masks on, etc. Of course, you will say that this won't happen. Of course not, just like teens don't skip school or smoke weed...:1rotfl:
More gov control is not the answer (my opinion). Just because a few folks on here are "needy" and wish someone else to make decisions for them, not all Americans are dependent on others for decision making.
Masking may help, MAY HELP slow the progression of this biological warfare, but we are showing just as many infections today as we were almost a year ago. Delta variant? OK, so how many variants are we going to suffer through before someone decides to allow nature run it's course and that collateral damage is unavoidable?
Make the children suffer while attending school as they attempt to learn? Perhaps we can put police officers into the schools to enforce mask wearing?
If you are afraid of your kids catching the virus, then keep them home because a mask is not going to protect them. No one is banning masks in schools and parents can "mandate" their own children wearing masks.
Some adults are weak and dependent on the gov to make decisions for them. Some adults have no common sense or do not learn from history when it comes to gov control. Agreed upon rules and laws are good, but life is full of challenges and no one can completely protect you from all dangers.

Altavia 09-15-2021 06:07 AM

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Dzurinko 09-15-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

I found THIS sentence in the original post very alarming coming from an American: “ Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose..”. This says it all and accounts for many of the problems we’re seeing today in America.. Real Americans are willingly giving up their freedom and insist others do the same! I just couldn’t even get past that sentence!

Ski Bum 09-15-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2004031)
Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

I would add that it is not a good thing that kids (and adults) are not catching viruses and building immunities. If we isolate ourselves from everyday illnesses, after a period of time, we will be a very fragile society.

bonrich 09-15-2021 06:14 AM

Remember how many of us fought wearing seat belts? The usual remark, was it's my choice to wear a belt. Then some cars had the seat belt wrap around you when you started and now, "it's the law." Even though it's required, I wear a belt every time I am driving, put it on without thinking about it. Will we reach mask use to the level that seat belts are used? Maybe.............

Byte1 09-15-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004018)
How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

That's NOT common sense. Common sense says that IF you are scared of your child catching Covid, then KEEP HIM/HER home. Common sense says that a child wearing a mask is not going to continue to wear it properly for extended periods, if at all. Common sense says that if you believe other children are infected, then why send them into harm's way, even with a stupid cloth or paper mask?
The reason the cold and flu season was so low last year was NOT because of masks but because everyone was at home, hiding from the dreaded Covid. How many children caught Covid, died from Covid? Kind of hard for them to become infected by other students if they are "zooming" their lessons. Kind of hard for them to catch colds or the Flu.

nick demis 09-15-2021 06:20 AM

should not have the ability or freedom


FREEDOM is what makes this the United Stated of America. People should move to China or Russia if they don't want their FREEDOM.


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