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stanley 11-11-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1859420)
I might even get a tattoo.

NOT.

Don't be surprised if something to that effect is mandatory.
See post 63 :duck:
:shocked:

Kilmacowen 11-11-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1859404)
Absolutely true! Good job educating TV Land to the REAL facts. It is difficult to counter propaganda.

So true , just Google "Prestige Ameritech" for the facts on N95 masks that our government refused at the end of January.

cherylncliff 11-11-2020 12:03 PM

Most vaccines take at least 2 weeks to become fully effective so that would be 2 weeks following your second injection of the Pfizer vaccine for a total of 5 weeks from first injection. I may also continue to wear a mask in public until the rate of vaccination gets to 50% or better. I am guessing there are a lot of people who will not get vaccinated as they are not even willing to show enough concern for themselves or others to wear a mask.

Byte1 11-11-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1859425)
Most vaccines take at least 2 weeks to become fully effective so that would be 2 weeks following your second injection of the Pfizer vaccine for a total of 5 weeks from first injection. I may also continue to wear a mask in public until the rate of vaccination gets to 50% or better. I am guessing there are a lot of people who will not get vaccinated as they are not even willing to show enough concern for themselves or others to wear a mask.

Or maybe they just don't believe the hype? Or, maybe they just do not agree with some folks that think the mask is the end all.....the answer to survival. Some folks may just be afraid of getting the vaccination. Some folks may think they have an immunity to the virus and do not need it. It's a free country and one should respect the rights of others having an opinion, even if one believes them to be wrong.

Byte1 11-11-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1859421)
Don't be surprised if something to that effect is mandatory.
See post 63 :duck:
:shocked:

No, not a barcode tattoo. Probably a chip like they put in pets. :a040:

jimjamuser 11-11-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1859433)
Where are you getting your information, Biden? The vaccine is estimated to be released and shipped by the end of next month, NOT a year from now.

Not to the average citizen. And I will believe THAT when I see it. My information came from Dr. Michael Olsterholm, a true medical expert in infectious disease, as opposed to Dr. Atlas, a lightweight radiologist.

stanley 11-11-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1859460)
No, not a barcode tattoo. Probably a chip like they put in pets. :a040:

I know, I couldn't find a picture of an in bedded chip. Anyway that barcode pic is more dramatic I think. :)

dhdallas 11-11-2020 05:21 PM

I don't wear a mask now.
 
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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

Herd Immunity & Darwin's Natural Selection is nature's solution. Its not nice to fool Mother Nature!

claricecolin 11-11-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1859462)
Not to the average citizen. And I will believe THAT when I see it. My information came from Dr. Michael Olsterholm, a true medical expert in
infectious disease, as opposed to Dr. Atlas, a lightweight radiologist.

Thank you! For months they have been saying the vaccine wouldn't be available to the general population right away at the earliest would be 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2021. The order is to be (as of now) first responders, long term facility residents, high risk and then general.

Velvet 11-11-2020 06:12 PM

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I think Pink’s bar code is cool; or above the ankle.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-11-2020 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1859473)
Thanks for serving your country. But, this constant communist behind every bush is a bit off-putting and NOT connected to reality. The US is and has been always a center, moderate country. I understand that the recent disappointment makes some of us want to burn our masks and dislike mask advocates. So, what is next after burning masks.....burning all books? I think there was a movie about that.

It was actually a book first. The irony of fiction :)

blueash 11-12-2020 07:30 AM

This is very tricky to extrapolate my future behavior based on a public relations report. For starters, the 90% figure is in people who volunteered to be in a vaccine study. It is of course the best you can do and thank you to those that volunteered. But perhaps those kind of people are believers in science and care about community thus they are willing to take some personal risk to get answers for others. That kind of person might be more likely to be a mask wearing or a hand washers or a stay at home and social distance person. The correct conclusion might be that the vaccine is 90% effective in people who significantly lowered their risk.

That may not apply to people who don't lower their risk thus have higher viral exposure. Time will tell. We also do not have any long term data on protection but hopefully that data will be reported before the vaccine is widely available. And an important point. While the CDC now says that mask wearing not only reduces the likelihood of me spreading my Covid to you, it also does help protect me from your Covid.

If the vaccine protects against clinical disease, that's great. There is not any reported data, nor anything in the protocol that will provide an answer, on whether it protects against subclinical disease. In other words if I get the shots might I still be likely to be contagious to others when I am exposed even though I am not "sick"? This question could only be answered by doing regular Covid screening in the study groups. It was not done.

My answer to the OP's question is I don't know. There is not enough data available for a reasonable person to make an informed choice. But I can tell you that my decision will be based on science and on my belief that I am responsible not only for my own health but that I have a moral obligation to protect yours as well.

Bay Kid 11-12-2020 07:57 AM

We will see how vaccine works for Joe. I think I will take my chances at the back of the line. Watch out for world control.

patfla06 11-13-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kannon (Post 1859187)
Found this information:
If an individual is vaccinated and they are protected from infection, they will not transmit the virus to someone else. But, it is expected that COVID-19 vaccines may protect against severe infection, but not necessarily prevent mild or asymptomatic infection. If this is the case, a vaccinated person could still spread the virus if they are infected. This is why it is expected that even after a vaccine becomes available, people will need to use masks and practice social distancing measures for some time.

There is still a lot scientists are learning about Covid. Like even if vaccinated, how long do the antibodies last.

I don't like masks. But I don't like people dying even more. If wearing a masks protects both me and others (recent study this week) then I will wear a mask. I hope our communities work together and help each other. One day this will be under control thanks to our wonderful scientists and caring communities. We can get thru this together, will just take some time.

Thank you for a rational well thought out post.

Velvet 11-13-2020 10:45 PM

I see mask wearing as an act of hygiene, like using toilet paper.


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