Might be? LOL china could be not reporting 100 million and know one would know it. And another thing? According to Google LOL ������. Yep, like Google don’t have agenda.

Why wouldn’t he or she, according to person in charge they are good people.

Trojan maxim: "Beware of Greeks bearing statistics"

16% of US population is over 65 years old

80% of covid deaths are over 65 years old.

So you would expect higher death rates per capita in states with higher percentages of seniors.

Lets take a look:

Florida has highest percentage of seniors in USA at 20.1%

Other big states: New York 16.1% California 14% Texas 12.3%

Population Over 65 by State (2021) | ConsumerAffairs.

If you compare total covid death per 100k the big states:

NY 281
FL 237
TX 211
CA 171

• U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista

But when you adjust covid death rates to account for seniors, who are far more likely to die, you get the following ranking (from worst to best)

NY
TX
CA
FL

Here is a chart in a paper which calculated age adjusted death rates for countries, you can see that countries with high percentage of seniors like USA etc had a large difference when you compare the "crude" death rate per capita to the "adjusted" rate.

Attachment 90856

Does "everything we can" include welding doors shut on apartment buildings in order to keep people in?

A wise person once said “Figures lie and liars figure”

A guy with a PHD in math once said "put up or shut up"

Nature Microbiology,
We shouldn’t worry when a virus mutates during disease outbreaks by Nathan D. Grubaugh, Mary E. Petrone & Edward C. Holmes Published Feb. 2020

"Mutation. The word naturally conjures fears of unexpected and freakish changes. Ill-informed discussions of mutations thrive during virus outbreaks, including the ongoing spread of SARS-CoV-2. In reality, mutations are a natural part of the virus life cycle and rarely impact outbreaks dramatically."

Later in the article: "Mutations can also make a virus either more or less virulent. A common idea is that virulence will only change — either upwards or downwards — if it increases the transmission rate of the virus, which effectively means an increase in the number of virus ‘offspring’. However, high virulence may (although by no means always) reduce transmissibility if the host is too sick to expose others."

So, if you have cold/flu like symptoms, instead of wearing a mask, why not stay home until you feel better and become asymptomatic? Wouldn't this one step help prevent the spread? If you have to go out to the store to get essentials while ill, wearing a mask will help prevent the gross droplets from being transmitted should you cough or sneeze, but it doesn't prevent all virus particles from filtering through the commonly used masks. There is no data that shows that wearing the commonly used masks PREVENT the transmission of Covid (or any other virus for that matter), but it can help slow the spread when combined with other preventative measures (Mayo Clinic). And if in consultation with your doctor it is determined that you should wear a mask and when/where to do so, then by all means wear one.

Covid is NOT going away-much like the flu and the common cold, we do need to understand it more and learn to live with it.

I am curious as to why there is no discussion on therapeutics by "the powers that be"? The only coverage on therapeutics (which would help in recovery from Covid) I have heard is to deride the potential options. Curious since some of these options have been used medically in humans for years and may turn out to be effective in post Covid treatment-time will tell. Ivermectin for one resulted in a Nobel Peace Prize in 2015 for its' use discovery in the treatment of infectious diseases. However, the "talking heads" in the media reference Ivermectin as a drug for horses not humans and mocked its use in Covid treatment, yet these same talking heads are telling people to "get the jab" of essentially an experimental vaccine (there are of course no multi-year studies on the effectiveness or long term side effects of the vaccine). I am by no means suggesting that people shouldn't get the vaccine, but that they should consult with their doctor and determine an appropriate treatment plan versus listening to an often wrong panel of "talking heads."

I believe the fact that the Covid19 vaccine was made available to Florida’s older population first, before a lot of other states population, has helped keep its death numbers lower than some states.

I had both my Moderna shots in Feb and March at Publix, the booster shot last week at the VA in Mulberry and my flu shot (don't forget you still need one) at Walgreens last week. I feel pretty safe when I go out.

The data presented was rate of death, not total number of deaths from Covid. Additionally, those numbers were current as of 9/17 and are adjusted as each state reports new data.

Yes most of the south has higher numbers now because they hit the delta variant peak and now the number of cases is dropping. Other states, including the northeast will start to see the number of cases increase as they begin dealing with the delta variant. The northeast has not yet seen the crest, but more like waves per CNBC report on 9/3/21

I don't know that Florida got the vaccine first and distributed before any other state, I believe it was available to all of the states and each state made distribution plans. I do agree that focusing on the 65 and over population for vaccine distribution first, based upon the data at the time, did help reduce the potential deaths that may have otherwise occurred. Later data shows that people 75 and over and those with comorbidity issues were most at risk.

So many Mis-Statements in this thread ------WOW:pray:

YOU SAY -

In Vietnam, we lost 58,220 soldiers. Deaths of Floridians from COVID was recorded a week ago, at 51,240. Gov. DeSantis won the governorship by only 32,463 votes. So that's 18,777 more people have died from COVID than the number of voters he won by. Plus we're only 7,000 away from surpassing the total number of US miliarty killed in Vietnam.
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Gotta love that personal choice agenda, especially when we're fighting an unseen enemy, known as COVID. Plus, I heard that a General Willey Coyote made a call to Moderna AND Pfizer, the enemy of our enemy... [QUOTE=Ben Franklin;2006103]I just posted the figures I found on-line for the state we are living in. I do not believe in political parties, and I have been an Independent for 20+ years. I looked at the CEO of the state and the numbers.

" did not post my thoughts about the job he was doing."

I became an Independent after reading George Washington's farewell address. In part, Washington said,
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Me Thinks Thou Doth Protest Too Much,

If you don't believe what China is putting forward I understand, but how about what is being reported here.
It seems the states that are having the biggest problem with COVID are the least vaccinated.
And the governors of these state are not disagreeing on what is being reported.

If you say you got it at VA then I guess you did , but I’m not seeing it anywhere the only thing I did see is they would start with over 75 which I am and after 6 months which I have passed getting mine through va last on jan 28