Yes, by all means. Let's get all those golf carts going 20.1 mph off the roads. OMG, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Now explain "the law" that you are so anxious to enforce:

My cart is set to 20, so I don't have a dog in this fight, per se. However, as it is equipped and insured, all I have to do to make it street legal and permitted to go 25 is to PAY A FEE. Same cart, no other changes.
So is the "reason" carts are restricted to 20, but "street legal" carts to 25 a safety issue, or a revenue issue? The answer is quite clear when exactly the same cart only needs a registration fee to legally go 25.

Most of the issues caused by golf cart anccidents are because of SLOW golf cart drivers. This also is the reason for a lot of car accidents. When you get a golf cart driver going 15 mph on the straight or single digits around the curves, normal people are going to want to pass.

If you have somebody right behind you that wants to go the speed limit or faster than you, pull over and let them pass, it only takes a few seconds. Same goes for driving a car, you get slow people in the left lane that go just as slow or slower than people in the right lane and you wonder why people are on your tail/flashing brights/honking at you, move over because the people behind you are going to take chances to pass you.

I also don’t want to hear people say slow down, we are retired, no need to rush, blah blah blah. A lot of us are busy, have appointments for drs/dentists/PB/tennis/golf/whatever and need to be somewhere at a specific time and most of us don’t want to leave an hour in advance to go somewhere that should only take you 20 mins to get there.

Truly well said!!!!:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Of course, now you need to duck those on the other side of the issue:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I saw someone in a four seater (front facing) wedge his roof in a tunnel, lol. The turn was too tight for him entering the tunnel

Safety belts wouldn't be a bad item to have, as long as people use them.

The turn was too tight, or was his driving skills abysmal?

Cops
 

Sounds like we need to increase the Civilians on Patrol for Speeders program. Who would have thunk it. Seat belts cause speeding by their research.:police:

So you're blaming a slow driver for an accident because someone who is in a hurry tries to perform a maneuver, like passing on a blind corner, and it's the slow drivers fault? I would bet that 9 times out of 10 if there is an accident involving a slow driver the person trying to go around the slow driver is responsible for it. I've had numerous incidents of people passing me on blind corners when riding my bike on the paths. In fact, it happens to me almost every time I go out.

You have to remember that there are a lot of pedestrians, like bikers and walkers, on the multi modal paths. They're more like a glorified sidewalk than they are a road. If you don't wanna leave an hour early or if you are in a hurry, take your car.

Don't know what you were watching, but it said lack of requiring seat belts and other safety fearures in golf carts, especially since many are illegally adjusted for higher speeds was the problem. Not just illegal speed alone.

WOW, this article has shure brought us together!
����������������� ��

Sorry, but I agree with the poster you are responding to, and yes, IT IS THE SLOW DRIVER"S FAULT. Yes, the immediate causal factor might be a stupid move by an impatient driver, but the ROOT CAUSE is the slow driver. If these slugs weren't crawling along, that impatient driver would not be making a stupid move in the first place.

I am not advocating for speeding, and I am not advocating for stupid maneuvers. I am advocating for a modicum of driving skills, which includes the ability to drive faster than 12 mph. Those that cannot keep up with cart traffic on a MMP should pull over and let the 17 carts piled up behind them pass. Those that tool along at 12 but then speed up to 20+ when someone tries to pass should just be shot on the spot. BTW, in case those people don't know it, Florida law prohibits a vehicle that is being overtaken from speeding up to prevent it. This applies to cars and carts. Your responsibility when getting passed is simply to maintain the same speed you were going until you have been completely passed. Then it is OK for you to wake up.

Took a friend down south yesterday to see the new areas. We were cruising at 18 mph. I pulled off the road several times to let many pass. Picked the speed up to 20 and I still got passed. Everybody is in such a hurry.

Golfing Eagles, I've always agreed with you on this subject and I will add that I actually chuckle and think of you when I'm driving on 466. I drive a 40ft motor home down 466 frequently and unfortunately I'm constantly passing people who are only capable of driving 35 in a 45. In the left lane, of course.

Making this argument in court would be both the “root cause” AND the “immediate causal factor” of a judge’s hysterical laughter 😂

Sorry you think so, your honor :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I do not know if the smartest would want to go faster or slower.

The paths are an amenity. Should be signs RESIDENTS ONLY!. Golf cart renters should be residents or guests. People renting carts do not understand how the paths work and think it is a game. Where are the going. The path pretty much only go to amenities.

Paths are an amenity and should be of limits to visitors. Carts should only be rented to residents or approved guests. The day visitors do not understand the how things work. Where are the going. The paths pretty much only go to amenities.

Golf cart seatbelts
 

The golf carts used for lifestyle visits do not have seat belts. These are drivers who are not used to the rules of TV and have probably not driven a cart other than on a golf course.

The paths are infrastructure paid for by the bonds and maintained with annual maintenance funds.

The paths pretty much go EVERYWHERE in the Villages including neighborhoods, squares, fire stations, district offices, and retail areas.

Florida explains what is a road and how to navigate them. If may not be same where ever you came from. If specifically gives instructions on how to walk down road and what is considered road.

[url=http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=& URL=0300-0399/0334/Sections/0334.03.html#:~:text=(22)%20“Road”%20means,str eet%2C%20highway%2C%20or%20alley]Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

When walking on roadway which MMP is road when you look up definition of road. Particularly (4).

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/.../0316.130.html

I look at how many are wearing seat belts and very few have seat belts on.

Just WOW
 

I'd like to think this was just sarcasm but it clearly something much more insidious.

Still considered road even though private with no restrictions to public.

There are hills on the MMP that can cause some carts to slow down a little. It is not always safe to pull over especially on blind turns. Carts are supposed to be governed to no more than 20 mph. However, while we are going the speed limit we are seeing speeding carts going way beyond that. You don't belong in a retirement community if you feel like people should be shot on the spot. There are concerns when bikes and pedestrians aren't paying attention to carts that are meeting from opposite directions.

I try to do my best to maintain my health, a healthy life style and perhaps some would say somewhat severe. I don't think that is reflected in my INS rates , the argument can be made that has me subsidizing people with a more relaxed attitude regarding their health. just as not wearing a seat belt increases your likelihood of being more seriously inured in an accident. I see you point but the way we live our lives will effect others, unless we get to the point that smoking, drinking over eating raises your medical INS, just as demonstrated negligent drivers who collect tickets and higher auto INS rates

Was in the insurance biz. Creating a huge can of worms. We are talking about golf carts which were designed to be driven on golf courses and easy access. Even if you are wearing seat belt in a car, insurance company can not deny coverage. Your claim can and possibly be reduced if you were not using the seat belt.

Modifications made after cart is delivered to the dealer are the modifications which cause the problems

Do not ride motorcycles but do snow ski. Started using a helmet while skiing 15 years ago. Agree helmet is lighter than a motorcycle helmet but me nor 99% of the other skiers did not lose any freedom. In fact we do not even feel it.

Had the same thought unless there is a posted TOO low speed sign. Been living here for 5 years. Have only seen 1 person going way less than 20MPH. Annoying but who cares. Took me 1 minute longer

They still are golf carts. Not MMP Carts or TV only golf carts. Yamaha and others build golf carts.

People on a long waiting list for a vital life saving organ are big fans of the states that don’t have a mandatory helmet law.

just got down here for a week and everything is normal:

saw a car driving the wrong way down Powell, after coming out of Walgreens, across from Home Depot.

its the car / golf cart's fault, always, the driver, never responsible until the court declares the driver responsible.

So you took the "shot on the spot" comment seriously and not hyperbole?????? Hmmmm

I recall going to the movie Watchmen with a neighbor who drove his golf cart a little too fast for me. I would be sliding around when he took the corners too quickly. Let us just say that was the first and only time I went to the movies with him. Fun guy though. His wife does not care for many of the films he goes to. I would sometimes see him in the same theater I was in like with Mission Impossible , James Bond, or similar flicks. Sometimes I would go with my mother, brother(s) sister -in-law, nieces, nephew, etc.

Would seat belts be required while golfing also?

Yep you knew that.:bowdown:

From my observations it’s mostly golfers that Jack the governor out so they can speed to next tee times. So if shoe fits…….:beer3:

First I never said it was OK, you assumed that. What said majority accidents (not all) speed had nothing to do with. It’s unattended drivers causing accidents.

Speeding must be in villages cause at least 80% IMO does it. Go the speed limit down any road and get passed or tail gated. I don’t travel in far south but B/V and Morse Blvd seems to be same as you’re Meggison which I guessing speed limit as 35 MPH?

Stop signs are just a suggestion right?

Agree, changes to cart size can’t come soon enough.

They are for cyclists