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Hape2Bhr 07-10-2023 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2233843)
Has to do with tides. The equator has the least rise in tides between high and low.
“ Coastal tidal ranges vary globally and can differ anywhere from near zero to over 11 m (36 ft).”
“ The highest tides in the world can be found in Canada at the Bay of Fundy, which separates New Brunswick from Nova Scotia. The highest tides in the United States can be found near Anchorage, Alaska, with tidal ranges that average around 30 feet ”
A few years back on an Alaska tour, the guide mentioned the amount of land exposed between high and low tides in Alaska, is about the size of Texas.

Keefelane66 07-10-2023 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2233853)
My head is beginning to ache.:shrug:
If you can’t swim stay out of the water.

Stu from NYC 07-10-2023 02:11 PM
We will be going above the Arctic Circle in a few weeks and will perform experiments and report back.

golfing eagles 07-10-2023 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2233870)
I never stated I was an expert. I do, however, know a fair amount about meteorology and methods of solutions for the N-S equations. The experts in climate dynamics are still working at a number of research organizations around the world. I have been retired for a bit. Most people don't understand the concept of time scales. The concern is what happens over the next 100 years. The longer term time scales, probably driven by the Milanvovitch cycles, are not the concern. The best estimate of the anthropogenic surface temperature anomaly is about 1C. This may very well grow to 2-3C over the next 100 years. That is the concern and it is a legitimate concern for geopolitical reasons. Please stop with the strawman arguments about the next so many tens of thousands of years. That is not the concern or the focus. Also, if your focus is on the political response to the scientific data about climate change then find another audience.
Nice. And “another audience “? Didn’t realize you spoke for all of TOTV. Must be nice to be the definitive final word for half a million people

Whitley 07-10-2023 02:31 PM
i m i m

Whitley 07-10-2023 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2233860)
Simply, it is *exactly* why I occasionally miss a putt. Areas with substandard gravity in place.
You too?

Whitley 07-10-2023 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2233871)
Ya ya ya, whatever. Does any of this nonsense effect the price or availability of tee times?
This can get me killed in the Villages; I just do not understand the fascination with golf. Sure, you can keep at it throughout your senior years. That is a plus. I played rugby in college. I think I can still play, my wife thinks I took too many hits to the head.

Two Bills 07-10-2023 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2233875)
If you can’t swim stay out of the water.
Bl**dy water is full of ice cubes.
Definitely not going in.

Two Bills 07-10-2023 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2233885)
This can get me killed in the Villages; I just do not understand the fascination with golf. Sure, you can keep at it throughout your senior years. That is a plus. I played rugby in college. I think I can still play, my wife thinks I took too many hits to the head.
I also played rugby for a good few years.
I found you sometimes you needed a good hit to the head to clear the previous games concussion.

tuccillo 07-10-2023 03:31 PM
Whatever. Feel free to continue ranting to others. I'm done with your nonsense.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2233879)
Nice. And “another audience “? Didn’t realize you spoke for all of TOTV. Must be nice to be the definitive final word for half a million people

golfing eagles 07-10-2023 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2233897)
Whatever. Feel free to continue ranting to others. I'm done with your nonsense.
/// (You can guess at what I was going to say to that):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Blueblaze 07-10-2023 05:09 PM
The OP is obviously correct. The response that had me rolling in the aisles was the guy who said the OP was wrong because frozen water expands. That's true -- and if frozen water didn't sink it would cause the water level to go DOWN when the ice melts!

Here are the facts. The OP's experiment (which is performed millions of times every year in science classes all over the world) proves that the entire Northern ice cap could melt and it would not effect sea levels one iota -- except for Greenland, whose ice is not floating.

Antarctica is a different situation. If it melted, sea levels would rise 200 feet. But since the temperature of the entire continent never gets close to 32 degrees (most of it is around -50 for most of the year), you're going to need a lot more than the 2-5 degree warming that the alarmists are predicting. I don't think even Greta Thunberg is dumb enough to predict an 80 degree rise in temperature at the South Pole 100 years from now!

In fact, even the most pessimistic predictions for the next 100 years only predict about 20" of sea level rise, worst case, and most of that comes from Greenland melting (which happened as recently as 1000 years ago). I could give you a link, but if you actually think Florida is at risk, you need to do the research yourself.

Consider this -- 25% of the entire nation of Holland sits on land that is WAY more than 20" below sea level!

I bet in the next hundred years, if we quit worrying and start thinking of practical (rather than political) solutions, we can probably come up with something to keep Miami from getting its feet wet that doesn't involve condemning the entire 3rd world to perpetual poverty, or mowing down entire states for solar panels and windmills.

Hey, I just had a thought! Two words -- floating docks!

Keefelane66 07-10-2023 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2233930)
The OP is obviously correct. The response that had me rolling in the aisles was the guy who said the OP was wrong because frozen water expands. That's true -- and if frozen water didn't sink it would cause the water level to go DOWN when the ice melts!

Here are the facts. The OP's experiment (which is performed millions of times every year in science classes all over the world) proves that the entire Northern ice cap could melt and it would not effect sea levels one iota -- except for Greenland, whose ice is not floating.

Antarctica is a different situation. If it melted, sea levels would rise 200 feet. But since the temperature of the entire continent never gets close to 32 degrees (most of it is around -50 for most of the year), you're going to need a lot more than the 2-5 degree warming that the alarmists are predicting. I don't think even Greta Thunberg is dumb enough to predict an 80 degree rise in temperature at the South Pole 100 years from now!

In fact, even the most pessimistic predictions for the next 100 years only predict about 20" of sea level rise, worst case, and most of that comes from Greenland melting (which happened as recently as 1000 years ago). I could give you a link, but if you actually think Florida is at risk, you need to do the research yourself.

Consider this -- 25% of the entire nation of Holland sits on land that is WAY more than 20" below sea level!

I bet in the next hundred years, if we quit worrying and start thinking of practical (rather than political) solutions, we can probably come up with something to keep Miami from getting its feet wet that doesn't involve condemning the entire 3rd world to perpetual poverty, or mowing down entire states for solar panels and windmills.

Hey, I just had a thought! Two words -- floating docks!
Florida’s bedrock is porous limestone estimated to be several hundred to several thousand feet deep a dike wouldn’t work.

oneclickplus 07-11-2023 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kp11364 (Post 2233821)
In regard to a recently closed thread about rising water levels, try this:

1. Fill a drinking glass half-full with water
2. Add 2-3 ice cubes. Look at the water level.
3. Put the glass aside; let all the ice melt. You will see that the water level remains the same. Why? Because the amount of water remains the same, regardless of the state of the water.
Right. But a LOT of the ice on this planet is not IN THE WATER. Using your drinking glass experiment ... when the ice was ADDED to the water, did it not rise? Of course it did. Now, the same will happen when ice at the polar caps as well as glacial ice (not currently in the water) is ADDED to the water as it melts ... the water level WILL RISE.

b0bd0herty 07-11-2023 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kp11364 (Post 2233821)
In regard to a recently closed thread about rising water levels, try this:

1. Fill a drinking glass half-full with water
2. Add 2-3 ice cubes. Look at the water level.
3. Put the glass aside; let all the ice melt. You will see that the water level remains the same. Why? Because the amount of water remains the same, regardless of the state of the water.
Truth. Unfortunately, about glaciers cover about 11% percent of Earth's land area so when (IF) they melt, that will be water added.


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