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Madelaine Amee 04-21-2020 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1750494)
Why not open everything up and keep protestors happy. There isn't any "at risk" people here, are there??
Tongue in Cheek???? As for "at risk" residents. When I had to go out to get milk this morning I was very surprised at the number of elderly women, yes women, on walkers and walking sticks not wearing a mask. I'm going to assume, rightly or wrongly, that if you are on a walker or a walking stick you have a risk.

photo1902 04-21-2020 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1750537)
Year's ago I went to Big Bob's Barber shop on 27/441, " One Time " that was enough for me. What they should do on arrival give you a bowl with a number on it.

It reminded me of the times out of desperation I had to use the base barber shop.

In the chair for around 5 minutes tops, then the a loud voice " NEXT " .

I'll wait for Cal's to open likely by the 1st of May, just a prediction. :)
Are you all talking about Big Al's?

Madelaine Amee 04-21-2020 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1750203)
A few things:



The pools - all of them. Under very strict conditions: chairs 6-8 feet apart, anyone caught trying to move them closer is asked to leave. If you want to just stand there and soak and yap with each other in the water, that's fine - 6 feet apart. If you try getting closer, you will be asked to leave. Jacuzzis - closed until further notice. If you congregate within the pool area closer than 6 feet apart, you will be asked to leave.

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O.B. Not too keen on opening the pools, well not for me anyway. I am an early early morning swimmer and believe me the hacking and coughing that happens early in the morning in the neighborhood pools is not inviting, even less now.

600th Photo Sq 04-21-2020 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1750613)
Are you all talking about Big Al's?
Yes, been that long ago. It was " Big Al's ". Thanks for the correction.

The haircut that I got lasted easily 2 1/2 months, $ 6.00 bucks, no tip.

Big Bob's is an Italian Restaurant on 25a Ocklawaha, he is the Father of Little Joey's in Summerfield, and Ocala. Big Bob's fantastic pizza.

thelegges 04-21-2020 12:56 PM
I for one don’t use any hair shops, or nail salons here.

No matter what opens here and when, and Your opinion is different, that everyone should still stay home, it’s still your option to decide what is best for you, and no one else. If you survived the grocery, (I shop online) most likely anything that is opened here will be the same risk, maybe less.

There are those that will still be in their home in August, and there will be those who go with the new guidelines, and venture out into a different world.

So pleading, warning, asking for the fear of god, Should only effect your life cause you are not going to change someone else’s thoughts. Only once restrictions are lighted up will anyone know the outcome, whatever it may be.

mtdjed 04-21-2020 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1750203)
A few things:

Pickleball, bocci, archery, and tennis courts, with scheduled time only - if you're not assigned a time, and you're not one of the actual players, you can't play or attend to watch. No tournaments. Using ONLY your own equipment - the Villages equipment would still be locked away, at least for now. - for transparency purposes: I'm a member of the Archery club. I would still not be able to use the range, because I don't own my own equipment. Under the circumstances, I'm okay with that. Perhaps the clubs would consider extending our yearly membership another couple of months. That'd be great but not something I'd expect.

The pools - all of them. Under very strict conditions: chairs 6-8 feet apart, anyone caught trying to move them closer is asked to leave. If you want to just stand there and soak and yap with each other in the water, that's fine - 6 feet apart. If you try getting closer, you will be asked to leave. Jacuzzis - closed until further notice. If you congregate within the pool area closer than 6 feet apart, you will be asked to leave.

ALL of the above: resident IDs only (including tenants with resident IDs) and authorized care-takers of disabled residents. No visitors.

Rec centers could be made available for clubs that have few enough people in it, that even if EVERYONE in the club showed up, they would still be 6 feet apart in the meeting room. Again - no visitors, no one who isn't a club member allowed - no "new member recruitment lunches."

No one gets a second chance, no exceptions.
Most pools have no attendants to monitor the actions that you ban and to expect attendants to be pool cops is not reasonable. Rec centers would have the same requirement to have rec cops to insure people are 6 ft apart. Who makes the decision of size?

And then you have the question of available help that you mentioned with the issue of longer hours on golf courses. Added people to do the control you request, training , etc when the Villages Personnel dept is limited at this time.

JGVillages 04-21-2020 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1750203)
A few things:

Pickleball, bocci, archery, and tennis courts, with scheduled time only - if you're not assigned a time, and you're not one of the actual players, you can't play or attend to watch. No tournaments. Using ONLY your own equipment - the Villages equipment would still be locked away, at least for now. - for transparency purposes: I'm a member of the Archery club. I would still not be able to use the range, because I don't own my own equipment. Under the circumstances, I'm okay with that. Perhaps the clubs would consider extending our yearly membership another couple of months. That'd be great but not something I'd expect.

The pools - all of them. Under very strict conditions: chairs 6-8 feet apart, anyone caught trying to move them closer is asked to leave. If you want to just stand there and soak and yap with each other in the water, that's fine - 6 feet apart. If you try getting closer, you will be asked to leave. Jacuzzis - closed until further notice. If you congregate within the pool area closer than 6 feet apart, you will be asked to leave.

ALL of the above: resident IDs only (including tenants with resident IDs) and authorized care-takers of disabled residents. No visitors.

Rec centers could be made available for clubs that have few enough people in it, that even if EVERYONE in the club showed up, they would still be 6 feet apart in the meeting room. Again - no visitors, no one who isn't a club member allowed - no "new member recruitment lunches."

No one gets a second chance, no exceptions.
Too hard to police. People that abuse are not going to listen to a recreation employee nor should they be put in that position. Come up with rules and if if a certain pool or recreation activity area was being abused close that one down for a couple weeks. Unfair to those that don't abuse but enforcement by Village employees is not feasible.

gatorbill1 04-21-2020 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1750610)
Tongue in Cheek???? As for "at risk" residents. When I had to go out to get milk this morning I was very surprised at the number of elderly women, yes women, on walkers and walking sticks not wearing a mask. I'm going to assume, rightly or wrongly, that if you are on a walker or a walking stick you have a risk.
almost swallowed my tongue

Rosie1950 04-21-2020 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1750613)
Are you all talking about Big Al's?
Yes sorry. Big Al’s. I LOVE Big Bobs and would recommend going there in the future. Just looked at Big Al’s add again and it says for ladies to come and check out the salon next door. Just curious that he’s advertising to open and who’s giving the go ahead. Just curious

600th Photo Sq 04-21-2020 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosie1950 (Post 1750726)
Yes sorry. Big Al’s. I LOVE Big Bobs and would recommend going there in the future. Just looked at Big Al’s add again and it says for ladies to come and check out the salon next door. Just curious that he’s advertising to open and who’s giving the go ahead. Just curious
I believe he is hoping that the lockdown will not be extended beyond April 30th.

So he went ahead and is taking chance, I think the lockdown will end very soon.

By the way FYI " Big Al " sold out years ago and is under a new owner whoever that is.

Probably a person who use to cut hair at Military Bases. :)

Halibut 04-21-2020 04:52 PM
I'd be more accepting of outdoor activities if people adhere to distancing recommendations.

Restaurants remain problematic to me since servers still need to bring food to the table and typically handle 5-6 tables per hour. (And even in the best of times, buffets are full of potential food land mines.) Is recirculated air in indoor environments a concern at all?

Temperature-taking for any activity or restaurant would only identity/disallow staff and customers who are actively sick, but asymptomatic people might still be contagious.

None of it is a straightforward or easy decision.

Aces4 04-21-2020 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1750350)
Hair dressers and barbers stand behind you. Hairdressers tend to wear gloves much of the time anyway. And there is a lot of washing hands. So I think hair salons will be one of the first to open as it is straight forward how to set up social distancing.

Retail stores like Bealls might be able to open, but dressing rooms would be closed and they would limit the amount of people to allow social distancing.

Gyms and outdoor activities with your own equipment and sport pools with social distancing.

For sport pools they might have to store the pool lounge chairs for a bit, so people don’t congregate on those. Right now they count people going in for water Zumba classes and water volleyball, and they might want to lower the number they let in. For volleyball they might want to play 4 on 4 rather than 6 on 6. (And if they do that they might want to have split sessions, one hour each, as 4 on 4 can be pretty tiring.)

Courts would have to be reserved so there are no lines.

Indoor activities they could limit. They do count for aerobic classes, so they could limit the number smaller. Have activity clubs like pottery limit themselves so there is enough room not to be near each other. Social dancing might be verboten for now.

Restaurants that could operate with half the tables spread 6 feet apart could open. Perhaps they will be required to be reservation only.

Live entertainment on the squares could start with jazz trios or other listening type music. I don’t think the mosh pit dancing is coming for awhile. Perhaps they could have line dancing at one square, ensuring everyone is 6 feet apart.

However, before they do any of this I’d like to see our active cases in the Villages to be very small, like single digits. Though we have had over 70 cases in the Villages, I’m sure some of them have recovered, but I don’t know how many.

Stylists cut from the front, side and back of a clients head and stand over the client while the client is sitting in a chair. :shocked: Unless one has one small patch of hair on the back of ones head.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-21-2020 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1750554)
I think all that contact is asking for trouble. I don't care if Attilla the Hun is standing guard and monitoring and suggesting. I remember vividly in the fifties being warned as a child not to go swimming in public pools because of polio and they had old fashioned chlorine back than. Another thing....Orange Blossom Baby....just like everything else that is only a "little" job or a job that wasn't there before....those are the things that inch up and cause everybody MORE expense. One of the things I like about the Villages is that it is affordable for most people. Another thing I like is that the developers do EVERYTHING they can to NEVER be in a position where they direct or order people around.
I'm not talking about adding jobs. I'm talking about replacing one set of work hours with the same set of work hours at a different set of responsibilities. There are already existing employees whose jobs are on pause, because they normally would be working part time at the rec centers, which are currently closed. Those particular employees could be offered the SAME hours - at the neighborhood pools. No one would be paying them more, there would be no added expense OTHER than a day or two for training in the specific tasks.


Also - I'm not in favor of restaurants re-opening their dining rooms, and here's why: we're not ready for it, our community has proven itself not capable of accepting the responsibility. All it takes is one single sneeze in an enclosed area, while people are congregating, and the waitress is walking past the table at that moment...

which is, more or less, what happened to me today. A customer was wearing her mask. She took it OFF to sneeze into the air, facing me, while other customers were walking into the store, between myself and this unmasked sneezer.

And then she pulled the mask back up over her face.

All it takes is ONE to ruin it for everyone. That one is already around. I don't need to see any more proof that this community isn't ready yet.

Moderator 04-21-2020 06:04 PM
The OP is looking for ideas about which BUSINESSES could be opened during the phased reopening. While the posts relating to Villages activities are informative, please direct responses to business types that could reopen and restore jobs to those that have lost them due to the restrictions.

Thanks

Moderator

rustyp 04-21-2020 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1750156)
Not a scientific study....no claims/claimers.
Just curious about opinions.

Using super markets as a guide or example there should be several retail businesses that could use reduced numbers of people in the store.
This of course assumes a relaxing of the stay at home order and "essentials" only.

Continuing adhering to social distancing and wearing masks.

Subscribing to the premise some revenues may be better than no revenues

Just opinions and what some would like to see.

The governor of Georgia seems to favor tattoo parlors. Just curious in today's society who gets more Tattoos - males or females ?


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