Timothy Mcvey and the Movie shooter and the killer of the Connecticut children didn't kill in the name of God.

I am not particularly religious, but I see mostly kindness in our religious communities and gatherings here and in our culture. At least most Christians strive toward the golden rule..

I am allowed to tell you and to think whatever I want, but mostly I have lived long enough to know that extremism even in attitude is NOT good. Proud to be moderate.

Which people are you referring to as already praying? and who said anything about anyone's God being better or worse???

I was responding to the OP's question of "what to do about the violence". What are you talking about???

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While I was blathering, you were using words to say it clearly.

TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 - 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 - 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 - 1,362 individuals," according to the Stanford/NYU study.
Put the shoe on the other foot and see how we would feel !!!! Enough to maybe start a terrorist program against the country who was using the drones---- please dont tell me who is right --- nobody is "Right" Everyone is to blame

crimes commited in the name of christianity and democracy
 

"Now having read some of the posts on this site, i feel that i have to inform the crusaders that, historically and to this day the crimes commited in the name of christianity and more recently democracy have killed more innocent civilians than any unguided terrorist or legitimate muslim army. the 1st crusade = christian army killed all civilians in jerussalem, saladin took it back later without harming civilians. Spain you mention, when spain was under islamic control all 3 of the main religions lived peacefully and spain was at its most advanced in all fields, it was the envy of europe. when the christians took it back they massacred many, look at the country its main beauty is its history.

and many of todays technological advances have evolved from the findings of muslims centuries ago, the koran didnt say the world had for corners, unlike a certain book, which is supposed to be the word of god but has 15 or so versions. the massacre of bosinians was commited by a christian army= 8000 killed many more raped in 1995 america since the end of world war have invaded more nations and killed more civilians than any muslim, 2 million in the vietnam war says a lot, 50000 in iraq. 1ST came the opression of pallestine then came the suicide bombers, 1st came the 1st gulf war and support of israel then cam 9/11, 1st came the invasion of chechniya then came the school massacre. first came the invasion of iraq then came 7/7
AND MY POINT IS THIS IF MUSLIMS HAD DONE TO THE WEST, WHAT THE WEST HAS DONE TO MUSLIMS, HOW WOULD U FEEL. CONSIDERING HOW U FEEL NOW DUE THE ACTS OF A FEW DRIVEN CRAZY BY OPPRESSION AND SEEING THIER POEPLE KILLED, ROBED AND RAPED"

crimes commited in the name of christianity and democracy :: Reader comments at Daniel Pipes


We are not so nice as we would like to believe we are... Not to mention Hitler was a Christian and had the Catholic church behind him.

Well how about ths, you don't look your age!

I was posting about the simple response of just pray as if our prayers to our Christian god has any,ore meaning than a young pakastanian father praying to his god to stop the drones from killing innocents in his country. I frankly don't see a difference. We justify our praying to stop Islamic terrorism while we continue ours.

Me too
 

You said it kiddo

"If America is to be put in its place – put right – (Muslims) must risk martyrdom and force (America) to the crux where it has to decide either to acknowledge (Mohammad) as (commander) or to begin drinking holy blood"

Scary stuff. Calling for martyrdom against American infidels who don't share the speaker's religious extremism.


Edit: Perhaps I should indicate that where I have utilized parentheses I have not directly quoted the original author. Further clarification to follow

Blueash. I agree. It is scary stuff. No one wants to think along those lines. People don't want to fear anyone based on religion, it just seems to be happening.

And I hope that your point is not that the JudoChristian Community here are all bad folks. It kinda feels a little like being attacked.

You took the words out of my mouth!! :clap2:

Good information - I think it is important to keep a perspective, and put ourselves in the shoes of others too.