[QUOTE=chrissy2231;2147240]Kind of like the question "What is Love?":thumbup::thumbup:[/QU

Nothing. From dust you came and from dust you shall return and at that point it probably doesn’t matter what happens. I will always respect another persons opinion. I don’t need to agree with it. Unless they are being mean or hateful then their opinion doesn’t mean anything.

Has died and came back
 

[QUOTE=chenault55;2147743]I didn’t mean to respond to you personally you were the first one after the question posted but since I’m here. John Legend’s song All Of Me sounds like a good explanation as any🙃

For me, dead is not a problem.
It's the dying bit I am more concerned about!.
As for afterlife, I am a firm believer that we are just compost or ashes after death.
No spirits in the sky, harps, or fluffy clouds.

That's the most important question you'll ever consider. I hope you make the right choice.

Hunters
 

What hunters do is help the population control of wild animals so they don't die a horrible death from starvation due to overpopulation. Not to mention the millions of dollars they put into the economy pursuing this activity. Try doing some research on the subject before condeming it.

My very thoughts.

Ha ha!
First, I am not against hunting. But your response sounded almost like a public service announcement to me. "We kill them to control the population and keep to keep them from a horrible death of starvation". Wonder if that would work as a defense for serial killers and school shooters.
Might be good for another thread. This is about what happens when YOU die.

My wife goes on a 15 night Mediterranean cruise.

Good description from a guy that died & came back
 

the what happens when you die got overwhelmed with cute answers - if you want to know listen to at least the 1st 10 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDrDYPzbvlc

Yeah about an hour after my beloved Mother died I bumped into a friend, at that time a real friend and he told me something very comforting. He said only 104,000 of earths very best people will be resurrected when earth doesn’t exist anymore.

I accepted his words because I had no interest in resurrecting his beliefs to align with mine. He really was a fine person who needed polishing in his presentation of how and when to deal his beliefs to others who he knew didn’t share his outlook.

His way showed little help for the future once you pass. The way I was raised taught us that the best is yet to come once you pass away. When I questioned my cousin who was a Monsignor in the Catholic Church he explained the importance of our faith he also never spoke down about my friends beliefs.

I feel good about my chances of going to what we call heaven and being reunited with everyone who has gone before me. I imagine it to be The Villages time’s a thousand.

I respect everyone’s opinions and or views on this matter. I lost my Dad when he was 53 and I think I was 17. My beliefs kept me from pulling the plug at that moment. I was raised with the beliefs I stated and still have them. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to go yet because I’m just learning how to really live here but if it did happen I have NOTHING to worry about, I’m covered.

How many religions or spiritual belief systems have there been? Hundreds? Thousands? There have been many, each with its own group of stories re a possible afterlife. They can't all be correct. And at this point, I doubt any of them are. The 72 virgins? The golden plates story? Angels flying, with wings no less? Unfortunately, or fortunately, when you go, you go.

That's why it's called faith.

You are buried.

To all the nonbelievers: We are NOT human beings with an immortal soul, we are immortal souls with a human body. At the time of death our soul lives on, our body returns to the earth from which it came. I for one would rather go thru life thinking there is a God and an afterlife and be disappointed to find I was wrong than to go thru life denying God only to find at the time of death that He does exist.

The Eyes of God – Karlukovo, Bulgaria
- Atlas Obscura

Too many sublime things in nature and elsewhere not to believe that some kind of divine intelligence is involved. Also for evolution itself. You cannot get everything out of NOTHING. And there had to be some kind of direction in the chaos of evolution.

A lot of religions do seem to be about rulers devising ways to manipulate their subjects into behaving themselves with a better afterlife for them. Other religions I am not so sure. Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, and Hinduism seem to have something more going on than say how the ancient Egyptians controlled their subjects. Hinduism Basics - Hindu American Foundation

A silly answer, you didn’t saying anything very bright except you must not believe in GOD. I just gave my opinion what I think!

Just my 2 cents
 

Trying to figure out what happens to us after we die is like an ant trying to figure out how a nuclear power plant works. We have been evolving as a species for only a miniscule 300,000 years, while the universe is chock full of billions of planets (according to most astronomers and cosmic physicists), many of which are billions of years old. We simple humans cannot even figure out what "dark matter" is, even though it makes up 90% of the mass of the universe.

If there is some sort of force that we transcend to after our body shuts down, it is way, way beyond our imagination. This is why many people grab onto religion as a comfortable way to predict a happy landing as long as you follow various superstitious.

In the meantime, I am looking forward to an unimaginable journey which, in many millions of years from now, humans will be able to comprehend something called death that was back in archaic 2022. Bon Voyage!

Good answer!

Is your cell phone made from atoms? Is your cell phone made from everything else in the universe? Energy? Consciousness is everywhere. “God”. is everywhere. Is there anywhere God is not? All that IS….collectively is God. Nothing but God, who is experiencing through zillions of aspects of itself…some aspects have forgotten who they are and drifted far away from the main godhead of most divine energy (God/heaven), and the 3D game is to find your way back to knowing who you really are, because nothing in 3D can harm the REAL you…soul divine energy.

Reading through all the answers, it appears that one will not have to worry about Heaven being over crowded. Of course, this is just my opinion, because it may also just mean that many "believers" are just not into these discussions on controversial subjects.
Perhaps another appropriate thread would be titled "what is Faith?" More than half the answers on this thread seem to indicate a huge lack of FAITH. A 2021 Pew poll found that only 63% of Americans consider themselves Christians. That is way down from years past. Maybe the lack of Faith and the lack of fear of one's judgement after death is a contributing factor in all the violence in the world, especially in the mass increase in criminal activity in the U.S.
When I was in Vietnam in the middle of several firefights, I found the old saying that there are a lot of believers created in the foxhole to be very true. Some folks that believe that they are close to impending death suddenly find remorse for their less than honorable lives. Ever notice how many charity drives there are in the Villages? How many food drives to collect food for food pantries and soup kitchens? How many volunteers for school mentors, VA clinic, neighborhood drivers, etc? Perhaps, folks are exploring different means that they hope will buy their way into heaven if they are worried about the possibility that Heaven exists and that they might be excluded for their less than stellar lives in the past?
I believe that I have been blessed to have always believed in GOD since as far back as I can remember. I never understood the concept of salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus until the early '70's. I won't go into the "how" but I suddenly saw the proverbial "light" and felt the relief that I now knew that my past sins were forgiven. It's a great feeling. Now, I promised that I would not argue my "faith" or religion. I am just expressing my thoughts, and maybe it will give some an itch to learn more, or maybe it will just make some think about the OP's subject of "what happens when you die."
Let me just ask one question related to the subject. If you don't believe in salvation through Christ, what if you are wrong? If I am wrong (I have faith that I am right) then what happens to me? According to those that do not believe, NOTHING would happen because I would just be dead. If I am right (my faith says I am ) then I will live an infinity in GOD's glory. I have a saying that I like to use, that I have LIFE insurance. I don't like to use the threat of eternal damnation to HELL when I speak about the evils of sin, because I think that most folks already know that sin is wrong. The Bible says that "ALL" have sinned. It also states that the only way out of the punishment for sin is for Jesus to be there for us as our mediator upon our final judgement. He died a sinless death of torture upon the cross to pay for our sins and will stand before GOD the Father for us with a promise that our debt has been "paid in full." If someone offered to take your place for something you have done wrong, wouldn't you accept that great gift? All GOD requires of you is to accept HIS gift. So, you don't believe? I am sorry. That's what is great about having a FREE WILL. I am not judging anyone. The Bible says that ALL are sinners. Accept it or not, that's your option. What have you lost for accepting GOD's gift?
I apologize for the long post. It was not my intention.

Outstanding post! :coolsmiley:

Amen!

Huh? "God is everywhere. Consciousness is everywhere". Ok! So when you talk to God you are actually just talking to yourself. Makes sense, sort of.

"The main godhead"?? "Aspects" (of God?) "have forgotten who they are" sounds like universal consciousness does not equal universal awareness. God has amnesia? Or dementia? No wonder the world is in such a state. This does not make sense to me. Sorry.

The world is in such a state because of Godlessness.
I guess people are reaping what they are sewing. Have a blest day!

Don't apologize, I thought you expressed yourself quite well. And don't worry about over crowding in Heaven. According to one old tv evangelist, only 144,000 Kings and priests are all that are getting in.
"Seem to indicate a huge lack of FAITH." Do not confuse faith with religion. Just because one does not exhibit your brand of Christian faith, does not mean they are without faith. I, for example, have absolute faith that when I am dead, the energy in this body which powers my brain which creates the sense of self, or ME, will be dispersed into the ether and I will be no more. The best sleep never known by a living person. Yes, "never".
Even atheists have faith that God does not exist. I consider myself a "spiritual agnostic". My way of saying that I don't believe in God or any god(s) in the traditional sense. But, I do believe or suspect that there is something more, unknowable, inconceivable, without thought or emotion for us, unlike the gods of human religions.
As for accepting God's gift, I say "Thank You". But I don't think he is likely there to hear. And, after all, a true "gift" is something given without thought of reward, praise or even thanks. A true gift comes with No Strings Attached!
Peace! 🙏

"Reading through all the answers, it appears that one will not have to worry about Heaven being over crowded. "

Heh. I once remember reading a comment (can't remember who made it) to the effect that when he died he preferred going to hell over going to heaven. His reason? In hell he'd get to meet kings, popes, lawyers, etc. Heaven on the other hand would be populated with lepers and monks.

That is assuming people would be visiting with each other in Hell. BBC Radio 4 - In Our Time, Hell

I was told many years ago, that the punishment for going to hell, was to stand in eternity in a sea of poop. Evidently is wasn't as bad as new arrivals thought, until they found out The Devil went water skiing on it daily! :smiley:

Since time immemorial humans have fought and killed one another in the name of and with the blessings of their gods. Not only other religions, but different groups of the same religion.

Very true.

I heard a different version of it, where Satan was giving a newbie a tour and everyone was standing knee deep in manure drinking coffee. Just before moving on, Satan shouted "OK, coffee break is over. Back on your heads. :mornincoffee:

Interesting post.

For me, the existence of the watch proves the existence of a watchmaker. I accept the idea that the Creator exists/existed because the more scientific advancements and discoveries we make, the more those advancements indicate to me that we, as with all life on this planet, are NOT an accident. The proof? I read recently that one molecule of human DNA contains something like 215 petabytes of information. One petabyte is equal to about 500 BILLION pages of typed text. The Library of Congress contains only (only?) about 20 petabytes of information. ONE molecule of our DNA contains more data than eleven equivalent Libraries of Congress. I have a hard time envisioning such a number. And that molecule, aside from being just a blueprint, is also in effect a computer program designed to run for about 70-80 years before self-terminating--and each individual "computer" is that of a person unique from all the billions of other "computers" both dead and alive--well, to believe that all of that happened by accident beggars the imagination.

But that is only half. The other half, that of salvation and the assumption into an eternal life in a place with an all-good and all-caring God, is based purely on faith, and no direct proof of that "place" exists. I do however think that there is indirect evidence: miraculous events that cannot be explained by science, for example, or of lives changed upon acceptance of a benevolent higher power. That fact has been part of AA since it's inception: the second step of the 12-step program follows the step where the addict admits that he or she is powerless, but in the second step acknowledges that reliance on a higher power is needed before the addiction is controlled. AA is no surefire cure, but many, many lives have been changed for the better because of it.

We have no hard answers, but when one looks at the evidence, the existence of a benevolent watchmaker is hard to refute.

amen and thank you

Absolutely! Which is why I detest all religion(s). In the end, all of them manipulate their devotees to the ends of the manipulators.

They have fought one another because of human egos and oppression of faith. It is still happening but God does not teach us to kill one another in his name.

if you want to be logical explain why are we entitled to a glass of water or a breath of fresh air or tje planet and universe itself. Are you grateful for that? Who do you think provided for you? Is the universe designed or did it magically show up? Your choice

Why do you need to assume that someone provided something for us? Do the animals wonder about why the pond is there to drink for them?
We did not ask to be born, why are we suppose to regret it?
Personally, of course I believe in the Creator, but all this guilt stuff baffles me.

agreed

he actually forbids it
the sixth commandment
" thou shalt not kill"