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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 945276)

The UN has long been a Joke and we should get out and have them move their headquarters out of NYC.

No! Out of this country. We pay 25% of the cost of this corrupt organization. I say no more support at all. In 2009 we paid more than $6B to the UN. This is not a joke, but I understand what you mean.

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 945220)

Inept American diplomats and politicians allow third world countries to walk all over our interests in the UN.

Without our financial support the organization would fold because other nations fail to pay their share.

UN "Peacekeepers" have been everything from incompetent to disgraceful.

The arrangements for election of the President of the UN is structured so that an American can never hold the position.

Some of the committees are a farce, such as having Cuba and Viet Nam as members of the UN Human Rights Council.

The City of New York loses millions in revenue due to UN members failure to observe local laws, pay traffic and parking tickets, etc.

Efforts continue to make the UN a World Government and have our government subordinate to UN policy. That is the real problem.

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I concur with all you say, especially the last statement. Unfortunately our current POTUS and Secretary of State are supporters of this effort.

The concept as originally thought of, was great. The UN has failed to come anywhere near the intended purpose it was set-up for. IMHO

Woodrow Wilson and FDR must be rolling in their graves to see what this organization has become.

I don't think much of the UN and it has ceased. or never was effective, in creating world peace and preventing wars.

I think many Manhattanites would love to see it moved out of the USA. Traffic jams, diplomats who flaunt out laws, etc.

Better to have a place where nations can engage in global discussions than not.

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 945430)

Better to have a place where nations can engage in global discussions than not.

Exactly! :bigbow:

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 945409)

Do you have any idea how much money nyc make by having the UN in nyc just ask the mayor de blasio ( the man who does not have security clearance to get classified information from the feds)

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 945359)

No! Out of this country. We pay 25% of the cost of this corrupt organization. I say no support at all. In 2009 we paid more than $6B to the UN. This is not a joke, but I understand what you mean.

why not 6B to un when we pay 4B to Israel -- Why 4B to israel ????? oh i forgot they are our one of our allies ---:shocked:

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 945276)

The UN has long been a Joke and we should get out and have them move their headquarters out of NYC.

My God so many intelligent people on totv

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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 945271)

I am with you. Why anyone gives this corrupt and annoying group any kind of attention is beyond me. As with so many good ideas, it is a farce who has long outlived it usefullness if it actually ever had any. It is a COVER GROUP for so much crap.

Pass the tea please - we do know everything

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 945239)

Excellent point ... I forgot that Cuba and Vietnam are on the UN Human Rights Council.

I have to ask ... does anyone out there in TOTV land really think that having Cuba / Vietnam on the UN Human Rights Council is a peachy idea?

Boy we really show Cuba - our next door neighbor who is no threat to us at all and we have no relationship with them --- Really bright ????? Human rights -- China -North Korea - Human rights abuse - Put boots on the ground -- Oh sorry - No Oil and they may fight back

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 945033)

I don't know much in depth about the role of the UN, and welcome all comments.

It was disturbing me to hear the UN plans to repair damage in Gaza caused by Israel's defending itself against attacks by Hamas.

Why would UN rush in with megabucks and repair a place that instigates and perpetuates bombing and gets bombed back?

Netanyahu will speak at UN Monday...
Netanyahu heading to UN to 'refute lies' about Israel - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz

There are two side to every story - spoke like a real jewish person - want to hear the palestinian side or just the jewish side ///

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 945039)

What do you think of the UN.....I don't. I suspect that one could produce a list of the number of reason why the UN should go but in the final analysis at least it keeps nations talking.

:bigbow::bigbow:

The UN is ineffective in fighting and/or defending nations. The UN was critical of reports of rape by soldiers but its own troops are as guilty. Wecould go on ad nauseam

nobody said they were not

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 945044)

i don't think our membership in the UN benefits us in any way....any vote which would benefit us is vetoed by china or russia. we provide the lion's share of funding for this body while they try to make international agendas which are against our own constitutional laws, such as arms treaty and agenda 21. we do not need our laws influenced by third world dictators with a vote at the UN. it is totally useless.

what would you would you like -- the five large powers to dictate the to third would countries what they would like them to do and act --- Nice

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 945098)

Haven't been to the UN lately, but back in the day they had great gift shops. Now I think they're a pain in the butt clogging up traffic.

I'm not so crazy about the place, too many foreigners.

Americans stay home--too many american companies taking advantage of third world countries - big oil companies

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 945114)

It started off with noble intentions but, since 1945, has morphed into a left wing cesspool by and large. It�s essentially a social club for anti-American governments, tin-horn dictators and associated thugs who�ve taken over their third world countries. It�s also pretty much cowardly and ineffectual in terms of US foreign policy interests. Other than that it�s great.

elections are coming - totv has so many smart people - maybe most should run - some have all the answeres

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 945430)

Better to have a place where nations can engage in global discussions than not.

Great idea ... let's make that place somewhere in the Third World and let them pick up the tab. We'll send a representative.

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 945443)

Do you have any idea how much money nyc make by having the UN in nyc just ask the mayor de blasio ( the man who does not have security clearance to get classified information from

Pass the tea please - we do know everything

Boy we really show Cuba - our next door neighbor who is no threat to us at all and we have no relationship with them --- Really bright ????? Human rights -- China -North Korea - Human rights abuse - Put boots on the ground -- Oh sorry - No Oil and they may fight back

There are two side to every story - spoke like a real jewish person - want to hear the palestinian side or just the jewish side ///

nobody said they were not

what would you would you like -- the five large powers to dictate the to third would countries what they would like them to do and act --- Nice

Americans stay home--too many american companies taking advantage of third world countries - big oil companies

elections are coming - totv has so many smart people - maybe most should run - some have all the answeres

I know this won't work or change your obvious anger with those with whom you don't agree but many of us change as we age. Many of us change as we age. I have always thought it because that we have gained a lot of information that helps us make value judgments.

When I was much younger and saw those big signs that said "GET US OUT OF THE UN" I would think, what is wrong with some people??????

Now I am neutral. In ten years? Who knows?

I think that it is common to become more moderate as we gain more wisdom.

I know that you will not change anyone's mind by making scathing remarks.

If you believe something, defend it with an argument.

I know I feel so defensive of Israel because I have known and loved many Jewish friends and because the Holocaust happened at about the time I was born.

But they have such pretty black helicopters. :doh:

You have a misunderstanding of the role of the UN

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 945033)

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It was disturbing me to hear the UN plans to repair damage in Gaza caused by Israel's defending itself against attacks by Hamas.

Why would UN rush in with megabucks and repair a place that instigates and perpetuates bombing and gets bombed back?

Kitty, I am sorry that you would oppose the rebuilding of some of the infrastructure in Gaza to be supervised by the UN. It is not to be financed by the UN although obviously there are costs in their supervision task. You are of course aware that this agreement was made by Israel with the PA to attempt to assure that construction materials delivered are used for civilian purposes not things like tunnel building.

UN brokers agreement to start Gaza rebuilding | Fox News

The surest way to keep the radicals in power is to keep the population in poverty and full of desperation. Please try to remember that if there had not been a United Nations, there would not have been the creation of the state of Israel. This is exactly the kind of reason we need a UN. Only such an organization would have standing with both Israel and the PA to attempt such a mediation. Or of course they can endlessly slaughter each other and never again attempt any form of cooperation which might lead to some peaceful solution.

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Originally Posted by SoccerCoach (Post 945270)

I prefer not to think of the "U.N." Generously corrupt, it has no use for the United States other than to take our funding. Largest spy network on U.S. soil. My blood pressure is going up, so I'm out.

I am always interested in learning about things. Please do provide some evidence for your claim that the United Nations (not sure why UN is in quotes in your posting) is the largest spy network on US soil. I am aware that the US has been accused of spying on UN leaders.

WikiLeaks: US diplomats 'have been spying on UN leadership' - Telegraph

If your assertion is simply that some members of delegations may gather intelligence, it would be just as reasonable to assert that some or most members of the embassy of any nation have a covert role. I don't see anyone suggesting we close all the embassy and consulate offices. Please take a few calming breaths before replying as I do not wish to be responsible for your hypertensive stroke.