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TrudyM 07-17-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 709825)
Been a lot of talk here about racists. Anybody have a good definition?

I don't believe in inter-racial marriages. Hetro--Bi--Gay--lesbian--makes no difference to me.

Does that make me a closet racist?

Just curious.

Food for thought.

Yes. A person who has a problem with people of different races getting married is a racist. You have the right to your beliefs. If you don't act on them you are closeted and not a danger. If you are rude or act against those of other races there is nothing closeted about it.

So as I am married to a Japanese Hawaiian, I guess we are not welcome in the villages by your standards. I have been assured by others that is not true so possibly you are the one who is out of step.

KeepingItReal 07-17-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 709924)
a racist examples:
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton
and all the other race stumpers that climb out of their holes when an opportunity for lights, camera, action presents itself.

Check out their lifestyles as well you will find racists like the above are also hypocrites.

btk

This quote from long ago well describes those like Sharpton and Jackson wanting to just stir up things for their own benefit...

Booker T. Washington Quote
Quotes by Category | Quotes by Person | Quotes of the Day


"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

by: Booker T. Washington
(1856-1915) African American political leader, educator and author


Booker Taliaferro Washington (April 5, 1856 – November 14, 1915) was an African-American educator, author, orator, and advisor to presidents of the United States. Between 1890 and 1915, Washington was the dominant leader in the US African-American community.

graciegirl 07-17-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cbg150 (Post 709979)
A person who asserts the superiority of their own race through the use of stereotypes and thinly veiled (or sometimes open) hostility toward people of a different races. There is a big difference between a racist and a civil rights leader like Jesse Jackson, Jr who may criticize specific behaviors of specific people in an effort to create awareness and a better society where we can all share the benefits of a more just society...


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I think if it is sauce for the goose than it is sauce for the gander. I think that some "civil rights leaders" are doing just that.

It isn't right either way.

Irish Rover 07-17-2013 08:42 PM

I think the definition oif racist is clear to all of us but it's manipulation of the definition that's queering the deal these days. Just my humble opinion.

Warren Kiefer 07-17-2013 08:45 PM

Racist
 
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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 709825)
Been a lot of talk here about racists. Anybody have a good definition?

I don't believe in inter-racial marriages. Hetro--Bi--Gay--lesbian--makes no difference to me.

Does that make me a closet racist?

Just curious.

Food for thought.

A racist is a person that is without reason, they have a belief that a particular race is inferior to his personal race. The degree of racism is compounded when that person practices and acts upon his racist beliefs.

What you describe as yourself is more prejudice than racism.

cbg150 07-17-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 710003)
I think if it is sauce for the goose than it is sauce for the gander. I think that some "civil rights leaders" are doing just that.

It isn't right either way.

Grace, while it may be true for some self-proclaimed "civil rights leaders", it is definitely not true for all. I have had the pleasure of meeting Jesse Jackson, and I see him as a true humanitarian. I love the following quote:
"We must all learn a good lesson - how to live together. That is the new challenge of the new world... learning to co-exist and not co-annihilate."
--Jesse Jackson





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mac9 07-17-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 709924)
a racist examples:
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton
and all the other race stumpers that climb out of their holes when an opportunity for lights, camera, action presents itself.

Check out their lifestyles as well you will find racists like the above are also hypocrites.

btk

We can also add Anne Coulter and Rush Limbough to that list, or would that be offensive to you?

billethkid 07-17-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 709994)
This quote from long ago well describes those like Sharpton and Jackson wanting to just stir up things for their own benefit...

Booker T. Washington Quote
Quotes by Category | Quotes by Person | Quotes of the Day


"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

by: Booker T. Washington
(1856-1915) African American political leader, educator and author


Booker Taliaferro Washington (April 5, 1856 – November 14, 1915) was an African-American educator, author, orator, and advisor to presidents of the United States. Between 1890 and 1915, Washington was the dominant leader in the US African-American community.

How well Washington's quote above describe the likes of Sharpton, Jackson, et al.

Btk

Cedwards38 07-18-2013 04:43 AM

A racist is a person with a prejudice based on skin color or ethnicity.

Golfingnut 07-18-2013 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 709825)
Been a lot of talk here about racists. Anybody have a good definition?

I don't believe in inter-racial marriages. Hetro--Bi--Gay--lesbian--makes no difference to me.

Does that make me a closet racist?

Just curious.

Food for thought.

no, that makes you a bigot

rubicon 07-18-2013 05:34 AM

Well if you recall Thomas Sowell's recent column you would have remember that he posted statistics that showed there were more black racist than white. So ask yourself why that is so? IMHO think Sharpton, et al.

But to the point I do not believe people dislike other people because of their color but because of their actions.

For example I am an American of Italian descent and I am incensed by the actions of those Italians that portray themselves as Guidos. Seriously! That sterotype did not exist in my neighborhood. Bon jovi made that same statement saying that it did not represent his New Jersey neighborhood . So too with black Hispanic and Asian cultures. So I believe people are mainly turned off by how these people act. Essentially its the arrogance and ignorant nature od these people

I would vote Thomas Sowell president in a New York second but Jesses Jackson never in my entire lifetime

Jessee Jackson once said that if he saw black men approaching him he would be afraid. Now we sadly finding him campaigning for justice in behalf of Trayvon Matin. It would seem according to people like him that we have not advanced on this issue since the 1960's Perhaps Jackson and Sharpton should stick their heads out of their shells and note the number of black leaders in government, military corporations and oh yea the White House.

IMHO Trayvon Martin provide an opportunity for people like Sharpton to kick up a fuss because what really is behind all of this was the Supreme courts decision recently on the Voting Rights Act, They know its time to level the play field once again but they still want it tilted in their favor.

The kicker is that their actions are opening up old wounds and that is not good for America.

I opine you decide

graciegirl 07-18-2013 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 710090)
Well if you recall Thomas Sowell's recent column you would have remember that he posted statistics that showed there were more black racist than white. So ask yourself why that is so? IMHO think Sharpton, et al.

But to the point I do not believe people dislike other people because of their color but because of their actions.

For example I am an American of Italian descent and I am incensed by the actions of those Italians that portray themselves as Guidos. Seriously! That sterotype did not exist in my neighborhood. Bon jovi made that same statement saying that it did not represent his New Jersey neighborhood . So too with black Hispanic and Asian cultures. So I believe people are mainly turned off by how these people act. Essentially its the arrogance and ignorant nature od these people

I would vote Thomas Sowell president in a New York second but Jesses Jackson never in my entire lifetime

Jessee Jackson once said that if he saw black men approaching him he would be afraid. Now we sadly finding him campaigning for justice in behalf of Trayvon Matin. It would seem according to people like him that we have not advanced on this issue since the 1960's Perhaps Jackson and Sharpton should stick their heads out of their shells and note the number of black leaders in government, military corporations and oh yea the White House.

IMHO Trayvon Martin provide an opportunity for people like Sharpton to kick up a fuss because what really is behind all of this was the Supreme courts decision recently on the Voting Rights Act, They know its time to level the play field once again but they still want it tilted in their favor.

The kicker is that their actions are opening up old wounds and that is not good for America.

I opine you decide


I am really listening to you Rubicon.

It doesn't make a nickels worth of difference to me Rubicon what color anyone is but behavior sure makes me judgmental.

I think everyone needs to behave. Sit down. Think. Get up. Work. Take care of yourself, your family. I wish we had a huge disease that made us all bright green. Then we could just have our opinions on poor behavior or good behavior.

And we are allowed opinions. It is where someone's fist ends and anothers face begins that we lose our right to respect.

tucson 07-18-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 710090)
Well if you recall Thomas Sowell's recent column you would have remember that he posted statistics that showed there were more black racist than white. So ask yourself why that is so? IMHO think Sharpton, et al.

But to the point I do not believe people dislike other people because of their color but because of their actions.

For example I am an American of Italian descent and I am incensed by the actions of those Italians that portray themselves as Guidos. Seriously! That sterotype did not exist in my neighborhood. Bon jovi made that same statement saying that it did not represent his New Jersey neighborhood . So too with black Hispanic and Asian cultures. So I believe people are mainly turned off by how these people act. Essentially its the arrogance and ignorant nature od these people

I would vote Thomas Sowell president in a New York second but Jesses Jackson never in my entire lifetime

Jessee Jackson once said that if he saw black men approaching him he would be afraid. Now we sadly finding him campaigning for justice in behalf of Trayvon Matin. It would seem according to people like him that we have not advanced on this issue since the 1960's Perhaps Jackson and Sharpton should stick their heads out of their shells and note the number of black leaders in government, military corporations and oh yea the White House.

IMHO Trayvon Martin provide an opportunity for people like Sharpton to kick up a fuss because what really is behind all of this was the Supreme courts decision recently on the Voting Rights Act, They know its time to level the play field once again but they still want it tilted in their favor.

The kicker is that their actions are opening up old wounds and that is not good for America.

I opine you decide

Yes you are right.. read the column Dennis Prager wrote today on his website entitled "The Election of a Black President Has Meant Nothing" The Dennis Prager Show , it's very ironic that nothing has changed since the 1991 Crown Heights,Brooklyn "racial tensions" on Jews because of an unfortunate car accident driven by a Jewish white man that caused a black boy to die. There were serious anti-Semitic riots by mobs of blacks for 3days, here we are 22yrs later & nothing has "changed" in America, it's only getting worse re; race relations. Very sad to say.

Avista 07-18-2013 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 709825)
Been a lot of talk here about racists. Anybody have a good definition?

I don't believe in inter-racial marriages. Hetro--Bi--Gay--lesbian--makes no difference to me.

Does that make me a closet racist?

Just curious.

Food for thought.

Then you wouldn't like my beautiful, smart biracial grandchildren whose parents have been married 17 years. :(

graciegirl 07-18-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Avista (Post 710178)
Then you wouldn't like my beautiful, smart biracial grandchildren whose parents have been married 17 years. :(

Of course we would all like them. But not if they hurt the dog or got mud on my new white chairs.

All people have the same expectations in my book.


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