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Villages PL 08-13-2013 07:08 PM

Home health aid.

Villages PL 08-13-2013 07:11 PM

Stripper in a bar.

Suzi 08-13-2013 07:25 PM

I guess anyone could consider whatever they did in their working years as the "worst" job of all. I know I have seen horrible sights and suffering and have have done extremely painful things to people. However, I consider myself to be of the luckiest people around. I have always thought of my profession as a "calling". Not in a religious sense but in the human element. I consider it an honor to have been given the brains and determination to help mankind. Even when faced with dreadful situations and exhaustion until I thought I'd drop and was emotionally drained, I still could say to myself....."self, you are a good person and did what few others could or would do - so be happy that you were there for that person".
I don't have a single regret for my life's work. I did everything to the best of my capabilities and then some. In every (sometime just awful) situations I was there - never said I couldn't manage....I just did it (even if I went in another room to puke).
I am truly at peace with my life.

bluedog103 08-13-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 725484)
Coroners/medical examiners.

I agree BK. I was present once when a body was found in a trunk in NYC. Believe me, being a M.E. on a job like this is not something many people can do. Likewise when a child's body is discovered. It takes a special kind of person to do this job.

NIPAS K-9 08-13-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 724363)
There is a broad spectrum of retirees here, many who have seen some really overwhelming and awful sides of the human condition.

What professions would be the worst as far as seeing awful and shocking realities of our times?

Social work, law enforcement, medicine, teaching?

LAW ENFORCEMENT>>>>>>>>>>> 32 YEARS SEEN IT ALL BELIEVE ME:police:

asianthree 08-13-2013 07:55 PM

ER Doctor...fractures...abuse....burns....accidents.. .sucide....cardiac arrest...birth and death...and you get to talk to each and every family and give them the good or bad news

jrandall 08-13-2013 08:41 PM

Law Enforcement

mainlander 08-13-2013 09:46 PM

Graciegirl, I do not know where you get these ideas for thread discussions, obviously from a very sharp and creative mind. " The absolute worst of humanity..."? I do not know where this ranks, but in my life I have managed a number of political campaigns and believe me, being exposed to some people under constant stress for a couple of months of 24/7 closeness you often see the "worst of humanity" and often it is from the candidate themselves... a sad but true reality.

DougB 08-13-2013 11:32 PM

Guess it would have to be the dude that gives that lethal injection.

Taltarzac725 08-14-2013 07:06 AM

The hero of Itasca, Illinois.
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 724363)
There is a broad spectrum of retirees here, many who have seen some really overwhelming and awful sides of the human condition.

What professions would be the worst as far as seeing awful and shocking realities of our times?

Social work, law enforcement, medicine, teaching?

I do wonder, graciegirl, where you get ideas for a thread like this?

I had an uncle who was a scout in WWII in Italy in 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian...(World_War_II) and who got hit with a tank tree burst which caused him to lose an arm, a leg, and a good part of his skull. He lived but only he and one of his fellow squad member's survived this. Of course, WWII was over for him. He had a great life as a small town hero of Itasca, Illinois. Until that is, dementia started and he began reliving his war days over and over as if it all was happening again. A lot of this was because of his head wound caused by the Panzer tank tree burst. It hits up high and sends shrapnel down onto troops as well as parts of trees like wood shards and caused horrific wounds.

I had been taking care of him before they got him into a nursing home back in 1994 in Itasca. Other times, he would relive more pleasant memories as if they were taking place right then and start having conversations with people from long ago and even naked Indians which he probably saw on some Western in the 1940s.

A lot of our troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan are experiencing similar trauma from IEDs. Of course, there are probably a lot more soldiers and others who never see the front lines and are never anywhere near IED explosions.

There are probably also soldiers who enjoy war, killing, violence and other aspects of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Kind of hard to generalize about various professions.

Villages PL 08-14-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 725763)

A lot of our troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan are experiencing similar trauma from IEDs.

One day I was sitting in a waiting room, waiting to get a blood test, and I saw a car pull up and two men got out. It looked like father and son. And the son was struggling to walk on two artificial legs. It's one thing to hear about trauma but when you actually see it, it's a whole different thing. It's very upsetting just to think about it, but these traumatized young men have to live with it every day.

jannd228 08-14-2013 05:41 PM

agree
 
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Originally Posted by mentoj (Post 724407)
Now that I have officially retired from teaching after 39 years, I have to say teachers. It may not be politically correct to say, but everyone comes through the halls of a school. They may not graduate, but they are there until they are at least 16. Many times teachers see the signs of what is to come but can say little. They do what they can for students but parents are the decision makers. That's it in a nutshell. I can write a book, but I'll stop here!!! :pray:

I agree especially if one works at the high school level as I did

renielarson 08-14-2013 05:49 PM

I'm sure my best girlfriend of 50 years would say being a nurse at St. Jude's in Memphis.

TexaninVA 08-14-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 724550)
Psychologist in a prison for the criminally insane/ treatment center for sexually dangerous persons.

That sounds like it is indeed at the very top of the list

kittygilchrist 08-14-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 726246)
That sounds like it is indeed at the very top of the list

hey I worked in mental health with criminally insane murderers/sexual offenders...it was a dangerous work environment, but not the worst of humanity in my book of ugly.
at least they are insane.
child sexual abusers and baby torturers top my list for depravity.
especially heinous because most of them are family members or mother's boyfriend.

ssmith 08-14-2013 08:35 PM

I am with Kitty...could not take the children and their situations. My daughter fosters newborns and we have seen some really sad situations.

Suzi, what did you do?

BobandMarilyn 08-15-2013 09:39 AM

In the end, it must be a proctologist.

Taltarzac725 08-15-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 726283)
hey I worked in mental health with criminally insane murderers/sexual offenders...it was a dangerous work environment, but not the worst of humanity in my book of ugly.
at least they are insane.
child sexual abusers and baby torturers top my list for depravity.
especially heinous because most of them are family members or mother's boyfriend.

Since you seem to have some expertise in the area of victims' experiences, I would like to get your opinion on what this group might like to see in public, law, medical, and other type libraries? Since I basically got kicked out of the law librarianship profession in mid-1991 which was made quite clear to me at the law library convention in New Orleans in the Summer of 1991 and then cemented even further at the law librarianship convention in San Francisco in the Summer of 1992; I tried to do something with my own extremely limited resources about a niche I had found in my library meanderings from late February of 1976 through then. I ordered a copy of the National Organization for Victim Assistance Directory of Victim Assistance Programs and Resources and wrote maybe 1000 of these programs listed in this Directory and asked them what they would like to see in libraries of different types especially public and law libraries. This was a technique taught at the Graduate School of Librarianship and Information Management at the University of Denver (Class of May, 1984) in the Collection Development course. You go to a group you serve or would like to serve and get an idea of what they would like to see in your library.

Of course, I recommended this NOVA Directory as being one of the most important reference volumes that should be in libraries.

I became quite a pest of libraries and librarians as being blackballed gives you a lot of free time. And, after I had gone to the then Librarian of Congress for help, the then Law Librarian of Congress (M. Kathleen Price) who I had worked under at the University of Minnesota Law Library from around 1988 through 1990, had said that access to victims' rights information in libraries was important but it would take ALL libraries to address this issue. Kind of like a lawyer asking for one file and getting sent the whole archives of some place.

I would like to get more input on this especially with respect to Villages' area libraries, websites, Sheriff's Department websites and the like. What would be useful for a victim/survivor to have access to that would make their lives easier to deal with in the short and long run?

Taltarzac725 08-15-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BobandMarilyn (Post 726503)
In the end, it must be a proctologist.

Like the pun, do not like the proctologist. :1rotfl:

Tracy1581 08-20-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 724363)
there is a broad spectrum of retirees here, many who have seen some really overwhelming and awful sides of the human condition.

What professions would be the worst as far as seeing awful and shocking realities of our times?

Social work, law enforcement, medicine, teaching?

homicide detectives

Parker 10-22-2013 12:30 PM

I'm currently reading 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'. The horrors documented there are.....I don't even have the words. But Kitty's recalling the hurt babies and children she has seen also have no words. The world is a very scary place.

Thank God it is also a heartwarming amazing place full of wonderful people who make all the difference.

donb9006 10-22-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 766934)
I'm currently reading 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'. The horrors documented there are.....I don't even have the words. But Kitty's recalling the hurt babies and children she has seen also have no words. The world is a very scary place.

Thank God it is also a heartwarming amazing place full of wonderful people who make all the difference.

Don't believe everything you read...actually, believe very little of it. Remember, the winners write history...and what they write...ain't true! It makes "us" look good and "them" look bad.

We do horrible things too...we shouldn't be naive.

The world IS a scary place, fully of psychopaths who view us as a tool...something to be used for their gain. Also...freedom is messy. You HAVE to take some bad to have the good that freedom gives you. Lack of freedom...the beginning of slavery.

We've come to the right place, a place where everyone has the same basic views on what is a good life. Enjoy the time you've got left and leave the worlds problems outside the bubble...there's nothing you can do about it.

gecun55 10-22-2013 03:20 PM

as a new York state corrections officer (retired) I have seen every terrible thing that the devil can throw at humanity

jebartle 10-22-2013 03:21 PM

You are not going to like this Gracie but a....
 
Proctologist without a doubt!

Erijo 10-22-2013 03:48 PM

Nursing.

Uncle Pepe 10-29-2013 09:18 PM

Prison Guard. I was one for a little over a year in TN. Worked death row and lockup mostly. It's amazing.

2BNTV 10-30-2013 09:46 AM

I guess is the percepton in the eye of the beholder.

I would say LEO, prison guard, caretakers of wounded vets and taking care of the mentally ill. A pediatric nurse who witnesses a loss of a child due to neglect, etc.

A schoolmate of mine who became a cop said he dealt with the lowest dregs of society. I tend to believe him as he went from a happy go lucky type of guy who became somewhat surly and eventually lost the love of his life through divorce.

Chipper 10-30-2013 10:53 AM

Having been in law enforcement for 32 years I have seen the very worst humanity has to offer. However, there was one group that I worked with that tries to protect the most vulnerable in our society. CPS(Childrens Protective Services) workers deal physical and sexual abuse on children where the suspects are family members. I don't think they receive enough credit for their hard work and dedication.

TexaninVA 10-30-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 724598)
Worked as a tech for the phone company in the projects of N.J. want to see filth? They would pi$$ in their hallways, stairwells,elervators you could not breath when you were there.Animals lived better,

I heard the same thing from a very successful plumber I knew up north

TexaninVA 10-30-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 724363)
There is a broad spectrum of retirees here, many who have seen some really overwhelming and awful sides of the human condition.

What professions would be the worst as far as seeing awful and shocking realities of our times?

Social work, law enforcement, medicine, teaching?

IT technical guy assigned to work the HealthCare.Gov website

Jsling 12-17-2013 11:40 PM

I may have to say an ER nurse and cops come close.
I've been one for many years and we get punched, scratched, sworn at, peed on, pooped on. I've had vomit all over me and told to F off to many times to count and still have to smile and say, THANK YOU for allowing me to help you. What else can I do for you, I have the time?
Really. I've had my face punched and I can't punch back. I've spit at, sworn at, made to feel like crap for even getting out of bed to come to work, but I keep doing it for the ones who truly appreciate what we do. Day after day, we make people feel better or die easier. Whatever the day brings, we can handle all of it with grace and confidence enough to return for more the next day.

2BNTV 12-18-2013 12:24 AM

Hands down, the police win. IMHO

I have a friend who changed from asweet guy with a loving wife and children to a person who became bitter and probbly was caused by having to deal with the low-life's in today society.

Second is nurses who work in a pediatric hospital, and have to watch children die. If they become too invovled in they take their jobs home with them,, they will suffer too.

Golfingnut 12-18-2013 05:17 AM

Animal control officers.

Cisco Kid 12-18-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 797396)
Animal control officers.

I 2nd that

senior citizen 12-18-2013 06:41 AM

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