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graciegirl 09-27-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 944704)
Actually, this thread is about martial law and its direction took us to what it would take to impose it. Some of the responses were Zombie Apocalypse, Fail Safe, and to stay in the movie genre, I suggested Godzilla. I think Isis and the Infidels (sounds like an Iraqi garage band) may be part of another thread.


If Federal troops came to this area, I would do what they say to do, and hope to Heaven that whoever was directing them had all American's safety and best interest at heart.

People can think whatever they want about the terrible things truly happening in this world today but they are not anything I can make light of. I am not a person who in their whole life has had anything bitter to say about another religion, but this is far more than religion as we know it and joking about Isis as a garage band sounds like saying Isn't that cute, that child's body hanging from that tree. It isn't a joking matter.

I think jokes and sidestepping issues and changing the subject is a way some people deal with a fear too horrible to contemplate.

I don't know why martial law would be used except in a grave crisis. AND I still don't know what Redwitch means about the homestead act. There must be some political rhetoric about martial law that I am not aware of so as usual, I just think the way I think. I will not be directed by any politics in the face of a serious danger to our future. But why is martial law an issue?

ejp52 09-27-2014 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 944623)
If it's something like a curfew, that would be OK but if the law wants to disarm me, that's a different story.

Exactly!

tucson 09-27-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 944623)
It really depends what kind of law we are talking about. If it's something like a curfew, that would be OK but if the law wants to disarm me, that's a different story. It's like you say. Either obey the law or don't. But don't be a sheep being led to slaughter.

There was a recent vote that didn't pass (but, by only 7 votes) about confiscating weapons, can anyone elaborate more? I read about it online, don't remember the details, wasn't the UN involved somehow?

Sophie11 09-27-2014 03:40 PM

Our Constitution and the 2nd amendment Is what is saving America
 
IF they remove the guns we will be finished.

Gun confiscation leads to genocide. Here are the historical facts. The following are “civilized” countries that confiscated guns from the populace and the resulting murders that followed: Turkey 1915-1917 1.5 million dead; Soviet Union 1929-1953 20 million dead; Nazi Germany 1933-1945 13 million dead; China 1949-1976 20 million dead; Guatemala 1960-1981 100,000 dead; Uganda 1971-1979 300,000 dead; Cambodia 1975-1979 one million dead.

The TRUTH is there are more murders in Chicago, where guns are out lawed, than in all the rest of the states.

rp001 09-27-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 944541)
Most Americans don't know this, time to get educated

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/mu...-us-government

The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!

tucson 09-27-2014 06:25 PM

Gatestone Institute is a non-partisan not-for-profit dedicated to educate the public about what the mainstream media fails to report. Features topics such as military,diplomatic threats to the U.S. and our allies; events in the Middle East and their possible consequences,and the transparency and accountability of international organizations.

rp001 09-27-2014 06:33 PM

No it's not
 
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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 944828)
Gatestone Institute is a non-partisan not-for-profit dedicated to educate the public about what the mainstream media fails to report. Features topics such as military,diplomatic threats to the U.S. and our allies; events in the Middle East and their possible consequences,and the transparency and accountability of international organizations.

This is like saying fox and msnbc are non partisan....rightttttt!

tucson 09-27-2014 06:45 PM

Did you know the Muslim Brotherhood (a terrorist org) holds high official jobs in our gov't?

tucson 09-27-2014 06:54 PM

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...bayt-al-maqdis

TexaninVA 09-27-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rp001 (Post 944807)
The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!

Actually, IPS has been long known as a radical left outfit dating back to it's pro communist days. It's quite amusing you deem that to be an "objective" source. :)

Topspinmo 09-27-2014 10:02 PM

IMO this country hasn't been this Political divided for along time. when the attorney general calls america cowards what do you expect? I only see things getting worse. I think this only tip of the ice burg to what's coming. civil war II within 20 years? I hope not. They will be coming for all the rich people money shortly. Once we are all broke only then change will come

As for confiscation of all the guns IMO it wii never happen. there are just to many and to easy to get even though warren buffet doing good job of cutting off ammunition supply from civilians now that he owns most of the plants, with billions of dollar government contract.

CatskillBill 09-27-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rc Moser (Post 944914)
IMO this country hasn't been this Political divided for along time. when the attorney general calls america cowards what do you expect? I only see things getting worse. I think this only tip of the ice burg to what's coming. civil war II within 20 years? I hope not. They will be coming for all the rich people money shortly. Once we are all broke only then change will come

As for confiscation of all the guns IMO it wii never happen. there are just to many and to easy to get even though warren buffet doing good job of cutting off ammunition supply from civilians now that he owns most of the plants, with billions of dollar government contract.

It's not Warren Buffet. I think you meant Soros, and that's internet lore. Read this: Does Soros Own All US Gun & Ammo Manufacturers?

robertj1954 09-28-2014 07:09 AM

Anything is possible, but martial law over the entire nation is a reach. It has been imposed upon cities during crisis. I can still recall martial law in Detroit along with Federal soldiers enforcing it along side the police. It was necessary to regain control of a city that was in chaos. While the idea of martial law is sobering. It is a tool that may be needed under extreme circumstance.

rp001 09-28-2014 07:22 AM

My point exactly. They are not objective and never have been. They are extreme right.

DDoug 09-28-2014 11:45 AM

Keep something in mind,when martial law is imposed and it is during an election I don't believe the president steps down he stays in power. That would be if it was country wide.

rp001 09-28-2014 11:55 AM

Oh please. Now that is definitely paranoia!

TexaninVA 09-28-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rp001 (Post 944979)
My point exactly. They are not objective and never have been. They are extreme right.

When responding, you really need to quote the post you are replying too .. .otherwise you unintentionally create the potential for confusion and misunderstanding of what you're trying to say. Just a suggestion ...

janmcn 09-28-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 945102)
Keep something in mind,when martial law is imposed and it is during an election I don't believe the president steps down he stays in power. That would be if it was country wide.

You are correct. This president, Barack Obama, stays in power until his term ends in January 2017. That is according to our constitutional form of government.

As OP, what would be the reason for country wide martial law?

graciegirl 09-28-2014 03:56 PM

I still don't know what issue that I don't understand has brought up Martial Law.

I am not happy to hear from the White house that "mistrust of police is corroding America".

When Statesmen in high offices undermine the authority of those who protect us, that is not good.

graciegirl 09-28-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rp001 (Post 944807)
The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!



I am VERY Pro Israel.

AND I am very afraid of Islamic extremists and so would anyone be who is aware of this weeks events.

dbussone 09-28-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 945242)
I am VERY Pro Israel.



AND I am very afraid of Islamic extremists and so would anyone be who is aware of this weeks events.


Absolutely on both items. The latter is extremely unsettling yet so many portray our concerns as paranoia and even racist.

Rags123 09-28-2014 05:12 PM

A number of years ago I read a book that told in detail the story of the gassing of the Tokyo subway in 1995. It was done by a religious sect They unleashed sarin gas.

My biggest take away was while this group was planning and searching, their thrust was to use a nuclear weapon on the subway, and what was shocking....nuclear weapons were in fact available. Many, because of the timing, were available due to so many missing weapons from the USSR. The only thing that stopped them and sent them to gas was their timeline and having trouble coming up with the money.

Now, given we have Iran who has been stalling the USA for a few years now and with whom we still are talking about some sort of agreement, has the capability and the product and given we now have terrorist groups WITH LOTS OF MONEY, and there now exists much smaller delivery systems it would be my opinion, that should any of the disasters posted here as a fear ever took place, the devastation would be so great and the loss of life so terrible, no planning would help.

I also believe that IF something like this would occur, it might not be the ISIS of the world....it could very well be a smaller group as was the group in Japan in 1995.

Marshall law could well be deployed in such an occurence and I offer this because in my thinking, THIS is how any kind of massive attack might take place. Not necessarily in a subway, although we just recently heard talk of such a thing, but anywhere where this kind of WMD could be delivered to make the most damage.

There is so much hate right now in this world. Democrats hate Republicans, blacks hate whites and vice versa......I use those two because they are internal and real and again, not outside the realm of possiblity because we see that hate flame fanned each and every day.

With all the money some groups are able to get...and the hate..all that is missing is the availability and the group in Tokyo were able to go to the "black market" and actually find such things. With ebola in the news, I am not in the weaponary business but could that be delivered with a weapon to cause mass destruction ?

It is a scary world and those who say "chicken little" are kidding themselves. It CAN be done.

Patty55 09-28-2014 06:45 PM

With all the recent military cutbacks do we even have the manpower for nationwide martial law? I'm not going to lose sleep worrying about this.

DaleMN 09-29-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 944348)
I think it is gradualism. That is what it looks like is happening now. Does that bother anyone.

It bothers me that you actually believe it. :doh:

TexaninVA 09-29-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 945539)
It bothers me that you actually believe it. :doh:

I think there is clearly a gradualism of increasing Federal intervention occurring ... not martial law per se obviously.

Just take a look at the IRS, EPA, etc ... you may agree / disagree with their policy objectives, but the reach of regulatory control especially is objectively expanding. That may be what the poster was referring to.

Gulfhills 09-29-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 944590)
Thank you for an excellent resource. It feels less lonely knowing that others know what you know.

I agree....thanks!!


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