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KathieI 04-02-2012 04:04 AM

As Angie says,,, if you're not sleeping around, it doesn't matter, does it???

Golfingnut 04-02-2012 04:14 AM

OH My.

:pray:

Biker Dog 04-02-2012 05:55 AM

Total BS, that's all I have to say about that!!!!!!!!:bowdown:

rustyp 04-02-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 474262)
We told several friends about the villages and we were buying a home and two said you heard they have the highest std numbers of any retirement community.

Is this fact or fiction.

We're very concerned what are the facts about this?

I have done significant reseach on my own here in the Villages. There seems to be a large percentage of seniors (especially prevelant in those who frequent the Town Squares) with AIDS - HEARING AIDS that is. :jester:

senior citizen 04-02-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 474387)
I have done significant reseach on my own here in the Villages. There seems to be a large percentage of seniors (especially prevelant in those who frequent the Town Squares) with AIDS - HEARING AIDS that is. :jester:

That was cute. As I was reading it.....I thought "Oh My Gosh" until I got to the HEARING AIDS part. Funny.

But truthfully now, friends of ours who rented most recently found some very strange things in the laundry room and just around the house (no snooping necessary) to make them suspect that what they read in LEISUREVILLE to be somewhat truthful. The owners had been the last inhabitants; thus they told me it couldn't have been "other rentors".

Since in the winter the town squares are so crowded and in the off season there is not the greatest perfomers, what percentage would you say, of full time inhabitants, really really go to the town squares every single night to listen or dance to the music? 50% or less?

Last question: What percentage of introverts are happy living in TV....vs. say the extroverts. This was also brought up by our friends to us. Thanks.

graciegirl 04-02-2012 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 474401)
That was cute. As I was reading it.....I thought "Oh My Gosh" until I got to the HEARING AIDS part. Funny.

But truthfully now, friends of ours who rented most recently found some very strange things in the laundry room and just around the house (no snooping necessary) to make them suspect that what they read in LEISUREVILLE to be somewhat truthful. The owners had been the last inhabitants; thus they told me it couldn't have been "other rentors".

Since in the winter the town squares are so crowded and in the off season there is not the greatest perfomers, what percentage would you say, of full time inhabitants, really really go to the town squares every single night to listen or dance to the music? 50% or less?

Last question: What percentage of introverts are happy living in TV....vs. say the extroverts. This was also brought up by our friends to us. Thanks.

I think there are more people who like to gather in social groups by far than there are hermits or those who enjoy being alone.

I have to ask. What was found in the laundry room and just around the house?

BostonCelt 04-02-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 474366)
As Angie says,,, if you're not sleeping around, it doesn't matter, does it???

Then why are we ALL taught at our collective Mothers' knees not to spread rumors???

senior citizen 04-02-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 474405)
I think there are more people who like to gather in social groups by far than there are hermits or those who enjoy being alone.

I have to ask. What was found in the laundry room and just around the house?

You'll have to ask them, but they were a bit shocked and are not prudes by any means.

I knew you'd ask that.

Not all introverts are hermits. Some are artistic types, authors, etc. and deep thinkers. Our friends are not into dancing the night away, but into other interesting endeavors. Everyone I know has read the book "Leisureville" and taken it with a grain of salt. It takes all kinds to make the world.....however, just curious as to the percentage of let's call them homebody domestic types compared to the very extrovert out on the town every night types.

This couple was concerned, not knowing who their neighbors might turn out to be. Otherwise, they, like us, thought the general ambience was lovely.......TV presents itself very well to the outsider. The STD thing is no secret; it was published in the Orlando Sentinal.....not just the book "Leisureville".

However, that aside, they loved the place.

Taltarzac725 04-02-2012 07:42 AM

This is an interesting link.
 
Sex, Lies, and The Villages

Doubt if it is even 50% of the Villages population who go to the Squares on a regular basis. When I have been there it seems that some of the people on the Squares come from surrounding communities and/or are visitors of relatives who own property in the Villages.

We usually only go to the Squares in the evenings when we have relatives visiting whom we need to keep entertained.

senior citizen 04-02-2012 07:52 AM

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
 
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 474343)
Last year I spent a month in TV. At a family gathering I happened to mention this to the grandmother of my son's wife who resides in a retirement community in North San Diego County, California. She went nuts, telling me she had heard TV had the highest STD rate...... I responded that much of what she had heard had been blown all out of proportion but she just would not listen. She had that "Don't confuse me with the facts. I have already made up my mind." mentality. It is just too juicy a "fact" for rumor mongers who are no doubt more than a little bored with their own lives.

I agree that there are more important things to concern oneself with, however, it is no secret. Article below is from last year. 7!% is fairly high.
The earlier Orlando Sentinel newspaper article (which I have not found yet) related more to TV itself....as did the book "Leisureville"...however, we know people in Arizona upscale retirement communities who say the same thing about the folks there being heavy drinkers and even swingers. We're talking Arizona. Below is article re the STD's .....

Seniors' sex lives are up — and so are STD cases around the country
May 16, 2011|By Marni Jameson, Orlando Sentinel
Across the nation, and especially in communities that attract a lot of older Americans, the free-love generation is continuing to enjoy an active — if not always healthy — sex life.

At a stage in life when many would expect sexually transmitted diseases to be waning, aging baby boomers are once again busting stereotypes, setting records and breaking rules.

In the five years from 2005 to 2009, the number of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among those 55 and older increased 43 percent, according to an Orlando Sentinel analysis of data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In the Sunbelt where retirees have formed large communities, the rise was even more dramatic.

For instance, in Arizona's Maricopa and Pima counties — home to large retirement communities just outside Phoenix — the percent of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased twice as fast as the national average from 2005 to 2009. Reported cases were up 87 percent among those 55 and older in those counties.

In Central Florida, where The Villages and other retirement communities sprawl across several counties, reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased 71 percent among those 55 and older in that same period. And South Florida saw a 60 percent rise in those two sexually transmitted infections among the same age group, according to the Florida Department of Health.

In Riverside County, Calif., home to retirement mecca Palm Springs, reported cases were up 50 percent over the five-year span, according to data from that county's health department.

The reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among older adults outpaced the nation's average, according to the analysis. Among all age groups nationwide, reported cases of syphilis increased 60 percent between 2005 and 2009, while in the 55 to 64 age group it increased 70 percent. Meanwhile, the incidences of chlamydia rose 27 percent among all ages, and double that among those age 55 to 64.

As a result of the national trend among seniors, Medicare is considering providing coverage for STD screenings for seniors. In March, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid office announced that it was looking into adding STD exams to the national health-insurance program, which already pays for HIV screenings. Medicare also is weighing the benefits of paying for behavioral counseling for sexually active seniors.

Why now?

The factors driving the rise of STDs in the older set include Americans living longer, healthier lives and a new class of medications, which include Viagra, making more sex possible. Many older adults didn't get the safe-sex messages that younger generations received, say experts, so their condom use is lower. In addition, more seniors are living in group retirement communities where there's more socializing.

"These seniors may lose a spouse, then get lonely," said Dr. Jason Salagubang, a geriatrician on staff at Florida Hospital Apopka. "They're living in retirement communities with others in the same boat, and sparks fly."

Joanne Williams, director of Baltimore County Department of Aging, gets that and takes a proactive approach to STD education at the 20 senior centers she oversees.

"The discussion certainly happens here," Williams said. She applies a portion of the funds her agency receives from the state for health education promoting safer senior sex and getting tested.
Julia Gill, director of the Division of Disease Control for the Florida Department of Health, said the heavy marketing for sex-enhancing pharmaceuticals aimed at seniors is also pushing the trend.

Besides Viagra, other medications such as hormone replacements are helping seniors remain sexually active longer. Progesterone and estrogen creams help make sex more comfortable for women, while testosterone-replacement drugs boost libido in men and women.

Finally, a more open sexual attitude has contributed to the rising infection rate.

"The flower children who were in their 20s back in the 1960s are now in their 70s," said Salagubang. "They're the make-love-not-war generation, and old habits die hard."

Anna Fowlkes is of that generation. Five years ago, the 64-year-old widow, mother and grandmother from Baltimore, tested positive for HIV. She picked it up from a man she dated whom she'd known since her childhood. "We grew up together. We'd started going to church together. I never thought to ask," Fowlkes said.

Today, Fowlkes reaches out to other seniors by speaking to groups about her expereince and showing a brief video she produced called "Senior Dating: Older, Wiser, Safer."

More prone to STDs

Just because seniors are older and wiser doesn't mean they're not susceptible to the same diseases as everyone else, Salagubang said. In fact, they're more susceptible.

blueash 04-02-2012 07:55 AM

As always, real numbers are available
 
For 2010 Sumter county had reported for all ages (for a population of 98,946)

1 case of infectious syphilis
169 cases of chlamydia
64 cases of gonorrhea

Sumter county had the 64th highest rate of STD's in the state out of 67 or only three counties were lower than Sumter.

For the years 2000 - 2010 there were either 0,1, or a maximum of 2 cases of chlamydia in persons age 55 and over in Sumter county. And the total reported cases of combined syphilis, GC, and chlamydia in Sumter country for each year has only once been 4 (2001) , once 3 (2005), twice 2, three times one, and three times zero.

You cannot break down the data to determine if the reported cases are Villagers so this is as close as I can get it. Also obviously some Villagers live in other counties. It is interesting that as the population of the Villages grew, there were not more cases being reported, and most of the newer population would be in Sumter county.

This data does not include HIV/AIDS
Florida STD Trends

senior citizen 04-02-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 474411)
Sex, Lies, and The Villages

Doubt if it is even 50% of the Villages population who go to the Squares on a regular basis. When I have been there it seems that some of the people on the Squares come from surrounding communities and/or are visitors of relatives who own property in the Villages.

We usually only go to the Squares in the evenings when we relatives visiting whom we need to keep entertained.

That's about what we figured.

senior citizen 04-02-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 474415)
For 2010 Sumter county had reported for all ages (for a population of 98,946)

1 case of infectious syphilis
169 cases of chlamydia
64 cases of gonorrhea

Sumter county had the 64th highest rate of STD's in the state out of 67 or only three counties were lower than Sumter.

For the years 2000 - 2010 there were either 0,1, or a maximum of 2 cases of chlamydia in persons age 55 and over in Sumter county. And the total reported cases of combined syphilis, GC, and chlamydia in Sumter country for each year has only once been 4 (2001) , once 3 (2005), twice 2, three times one, and three times zero.

You cannot break down the data to determine if the reported cases are Villagers so this is as close as I can get it. Also obviously some Villagers live in other counties. It is interesting that as the population of the Villages grew, there were not more cases being reported, and most of the newer population would be in Sumter county.

This data does not include HIV/AIDS
Florida STD Trends

GOOD TO KNOW. Thanks for sharing.....appreciate the research.

Orlando Sentinal article mentioned that THE VILLAGES sprawled through several counties.....so that would be Sumter, Lake and Marion Counties plus other close by retirement communities in central Florida. As another poster mentioned, I would think a lot of the visitors to the squares do not even live there in TV. NUFF SAID.

jimbo2012 04-02-2012 08:38 AM

Thanks for the input, I thought it was BS, especially after meeting many residents in our visits.

senior citizen 04-02-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 474428)
Thanks for the input, I thought it was BS, especially after meeting many residents in our visits.

No problem Jimbo2012, however, after reading yours and other posts, I decided to do some research of my own, besides the Orlando Sentinel newspaper, which I've been reading since Caylee Anthony went missing.

I will NOT print the links here, however, just by typing into a search engine, "Are there swingers in The Villages Florida?" I came up with pages and pages of "sites" looking for spouse swapping...the first site claimed that 10,262 of the Villages swingers were within 100 miles.. There were pages and pages of this......plus other sites with similar requests. GO FIGURE.

I realize it's difficult to erase old postings and websites once on the internet but couldn't the Morse Family who owns TV sue these websites for false representation????

Again, it makes one stop, pause and think. Sometimes there is some truth to rumors.


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