Originally Posted by DDVeteran (Post 1766727)

This post was meant to incite rather than inform.

Originally Posted by amexsbow (Post 1767037)

We moved from the deep south to NC. We had little contact with people from NY or NJ prior to living in NC. You can't paint all people with the same brush. We know many conservative intelligent people from NY & NJ. We also know many biased intransigent people from these areas. You can't convince those who "feel"they know with facts.

Originally Posted by rbrooks817 (Post 1767060)

Perhaps if the government had shut down travel from Europe along with the belated shut down of China our loss of life would be much lower. 40k people still came from China after they shut that down and over 400k came here before the shut down. You can't blame NYC for our do nothing federal govt.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1766654)

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Travel from New York City seeded wave of US outbreaks

New York City’s coronavirus outbreak grew so large by early March that the city became the primary source of new infections in the United States, new research reveals, as thousands of infected people traveled from the city and seeded outbreaks around the country.

"We now have enough data to feel pretty confident that New York was the primary gateway for the rest of the country" said Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health.

Travel from New York City seeded wave of U.S. outbreaks | The Seattle Times

Would have been a good move to quarantine NYC

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1766713)

The post title is exactly the title of an article in the New York Times, so they must be ignorant and uninformed. :ohdear: The second part of my OP was the title of another article in the New York Times. Travel from New York seeded wave of US outbreaks.

See the 2nd graph I posted? That's from the New York Times also, taken from a scientific study that traced the genetic mutations of the virus all over the country and found most of it had come from New York City. The virus came to New York mostly from Europe, it came to Europe from China. These facts do not refute the fact the a majority of outbreaks across the US were seeded from New York travelers. They have genetic proof.

PS I did not link the New York Times articles because this site prohibits using links to subscription only articles. But lots of other papers reported the same news.

Originally Posted by rbrooks817 (Post 1767191)

Google is our friend, so try Googling the numbers and the timeline. The administration was asleep at the wheel and was too busy denying the data.

Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1767205)

Dead on correct!

Let's put a myth and regurgitated lies to rest right now. After the ban of visitors from China, there were so many exceptions that an estimated 40,000 still came to the US after this supposed "ban" was in place.

Coronavirus: Direct flights brought 40k from China after Trump travel ban - Axios

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1767254)

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The only problem with your theory is the genetic tracing of the virus by micro biologists and epidemiologists which shows the majority of US infections came from New York.

Northeast 92%
Southeast 87%
Midwest 78%
West 78%

The only region infected more by virus direct from China was the Northwest, Washington and Oregon, but they still got 43% of infections from New York.

Originally Posted by rbrooks817 (Post 1767060)

Perhaps if the government had shut down travel from Europe along with the belated shut down of China our loss of life would be much lower. 40k people still came from China after they shut that down and over 400k came here before the shut down. You can't blame NYC for our do nothing federal govt.