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Pturner 08-24-2010 08:18 PM

His being a politician aside for just a moment-- does anybody think this buffoon deserves rock-star status? Why do we seemingly confer it upon him? I do think it's an interesting question/ observation.

:popcorn:

pooh 08-24-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 286667)
His being a politician aside for just a moment-- does anybody think this buffoon deserves rock-star status? Why do we seemingly confer it upon him? I do think it's an interesting question/ observation.

:popcorn:

Hopefully, soon, people will tire of this...this, I don't know what to call him. Maybe his 15 minutes of fame are over....sigh, one can only hope!

bkcunningham1 08-24-2010 08:25 PM

When you root for him, it makes you feel like you are part of the Borgata. It's the Chicago way. Capisci?

Talk Host 08-25-2010 10:00 AM

I wonder:

If we were to discuss a church that burned down, would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss a former senator killed in a plane crash, would that be a political discussion?

If we were to discuss a member of the clergy arrested for child molesting, would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss our war on terror (against Muslim extremists) would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss Senator Kennedy dying of a brain tumor, would that be a political discussion? (I know it be turned into one by the political junkies.)

We support and make heros out of people like convicted felon Martha Stewart.

Get a popular network television show by being like "Dog The Bounty Hunter." Not only served time for killing somebody, but recently arrested for circumventing the law in Mexico.

We've made folk heros out of bad people like, The bird man of Alcatraz, Billie The kid, Bonnie and Clyde, baby face Nelson, Al Capone.

National celebrity Jerry Springer provides us with an endless stream of the lowest life forms on the planet. OH, wait a minute, he use to be Mayor of Cincinnati.....that would be a political disusion. Sorry!

Now, remember that I too, once ran for public office and even considered running for Congress. So anytime you respond to me, it could be considered political.

General discussion turns political when somebody takes a general topic and paints it with a political brush.

:throwtomatoes:

graciegirl 08-25-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 286667)
His being a politician aside for just a moment-- does anybody think this buffoon deserves rock-star status? Why do we seemingly confer it upon him? I do think it's an interesting question/ observation.

:popcorn:

Whether law breakers get accolades or disdain from people depend on the people. I don't think it is glamorous to break the law .

My heros are people who have discovered medical cures, golfers who play great and still have a nice family situation, teachers who have made a difference, and last but not least ordinary people who work and save and sacrifice to care for their family.

I think that most people look down on people who betray the public trust. I hope so.

EdV 08-25-2010 11:17 AM

I wonder too TH.

Would you have bothered to start this thread if Rod Blagojevich was just a small time businessman in Mahomet Illinois who was convicted of lying to the FBI about his involvement in a nickel/dime Ponzi scheme?

pooh 08-25-2010 11:26 AM

The point is that Rod Blagojevich is known by just about all Americans. Someone unknown outside of his local area might not get as much press as this jerk has been getting. The media plays some blame, actually lots, in getting this idiot his rise to fame.

Yoda 08-25-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 286783)
I wonder:

If we were to discuss a church that burned down, would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss a former senator killed in a plane crash, would that be a political discussion?

If we were to discuss a member of the clergy arrested for child molesting, would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss our war on terror (against Muslim extremists) would that be a religious discussion?

If we were to discuss Senator Kennedy dying of a brain tumor, would that be a political discussion? (I know it be turned into one by the political junkies.)

We support and make heros out of people like convicted felon Martha Stewart.

Get a popular network television show by being like "Dog The Bounty Hunter." Not only served time for killing somebody, but recently arrested for circumventing the law in Mexico.

We've made folk heros out of bad people like, The bird man of Alcatraz, Billie The kid, Bonnie and Clyde, baby face Nelson, Al Capone.

National celebrity Jerry Springer provides us with an endless stream of the lowest life forms on the planet. OH, wait a minute, he use to be Mayor of Cincinnati.....that would be a political disusion. Sorry!

Now, remember that I too, once ran for public office and even considered running for Congress. So anytime you respond to me, it could be considered political.

General discussion turns political when somebody takes a general topic and paints it with a political brush.

:throwtomatoes:

In answer to all of your if's...NO!

Yoda

EdV 08-25-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 286817)
....The media plays some blame, actually lots, in getting this idiot his rise to fame.

And so does this thread.

pooh 08-25-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 286839)
And so does this thread.

Without a doubt...and I noticed that we're both writing in it.... ;)

EdV 08-25-2010 03:14 PM

Yes but in my case it’s only to try and convince TH to move it to obscurity where it belongs.

pooh 08-25-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 286891)
Yes but in my case it’s only to try and convince TH to move it to obscurity where it belongs.

But Ed, the question didn't necessarily have to relate to the person mentioned so many times in this particular thread. It could refer to Bonnie and Clyde, Billy the Kid, heck, even Robin Hood is portrayed as a hero. Stealing is stealing if one wants to get nit picky.

What is so appealing about those who decide that they don't have to live by their current society's rules. Honestly, I can't be very specific about why they're so fascinating. I'm sure we all have days when these "villians" spark something primeval in us and other days, we recognize that society does better when most of the rules one has established for the betterment of all, are followed.

EdV 08-25-2010 06:02 PM

Pooh, you're in the wrong forum here.

pooh 08-25-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 286939)
Pooh, you're in the wrong forum here.

Ed, what particular forum do you feel this should be in? It was a legitimate question for this arena in my opinion. Do you feel it's more political? I'll be watching to see if others continue.

EdV 08-25-2010 06:41 PM

Oh geez louise, it's hopeless. I'll let go of it.

pooh 08-25-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 286953)
Oh geez louise, it's hopeless. I'll let go of it.

Me, too, nite, Ed.

EdV 08-25-2010 06:54 PM

Good Night, Gracie.

graciegirl 08-25-2010 06:58 PM

No. I'm Gracie. Pooh is my friend. She's the pretty one.

EdV 08-25-2010 07:08 PM

No way. You’re both beautiful in my eyes. Let’s all sleep on that thought. OK?

pooh 08-25-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by edvinmass (Post 286956)
good night, gracie.

lol.....;)

pooh 08-25-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 286962)
No way. You’re both beautiful in my eyes. Let’s all sleep on that thought. OK?

You sweet talker, you.... :)

pooh 08-25-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 286957)
No. I'm Gracie. Pooh is my friend. She's the pretty one.

Not as pretty as you, Gracie.

Ed thinks we're both beautiful....isn't he sweet...:)

Nite Gracie.


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