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fdpaq0580 02-01-2025 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2406196)
They were speaking it first...

How can you be sure? So many different versions in the UK. Many can't say the letter R (argh). They say "ah". Steph the "ahlta" (alter) "nuhd" (nerd), was talking about sending a "leh-uh" (letter) tew Meghan "Macle" (Marcle). Missing T's and R's, with hard stops where the missing lettre[B]r[/Bs should be. ]A different "Bri-esh" accent, I'm sure. The letters can appear or not, even in the same word. Frustrating becomes Frostrah-en.
Accents can be fun. They can also be frustrating, or frostrah-en. ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜‰

CFrance 02-01-2025 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2406225)
How can you be sure? So many different versions in the UK. Many can't say the letter R (argh). They say "ah". Steph the "ahlta" (alter) "nuhd" (nerd), was talking about sending a "leh-uh" (letter) tew Meghan "Macle" (Marcle). Missing T's and R's, with hard stops where the missing lettre[B]r[/Bs should be. ]A different "Bri-esh" accent, I'm sure. The letters can appear or not, even in the same word. Frustrating becomes Frostrah-en.
Accents can be fun. They can also be frustrating, or frostrah-en. ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜‰

I can be sure because the UK existed before America. It's not the same English, but theirs came first, and we shouldn't be arrogant enough to suggest that they don't know how to speak English.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-01-2025 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2406225)
How can you be sure? So many different versions in the UK. Many can't say the letter R (argh). They say "ah". Steph the "ahlta" (alter) "nuhd" (nerd), was talking about sending a "leh-uh" (letter) tew Meghan "Macle" (Marcle). Missing T's and R's, with hard stops where the missing lettre[B]r[/Bs should be. ]A different "Bri-esh" accent, I'm sure. The letters can appear or not, even in the same word. Frustrating becomes Frostrah-en.
Accents can be fun. They can also be frustrating, or frostrah-en. ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜‰

If you think that's nuts, try learning the difference between Dorchester (Dah-ches-tah) and South Boston (sow-thee). Or worse - Bedford-Stuyvesant (Bed-Stoo) New York and somewhere in the Delta region of Mississippi (I won't even try it).

Now imagine AI trying to understand someone from San Antonio trying to have a full-blown conversation with it, when Texans talk a mile a minute with a thick drawl and don't pronounce half the words in the sentences.

fdpaq0580 02-01-2025 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2406226)
I can be sure because the UK existed before America. It's not the same English, but theirs came first, and we shouldn't be arrogant enough to suggest that they don't know how to speak English.

I agree with you completely. I'm just having fun with accents. We (Americans) don't speak it properly. Or so I've been told. Yet as you travel just around England, one will occasionally hear complaints that the English "don't speak it properly" about their fellows from other areas of the country. Every country has various regional accents and dialects. When I need help, I want someone that I can converse clearly and confidently with. But, with music, understanding the language is, for me, not always important..

Pugchief 02-01-2025 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2406078)
"lightly educated Indians"

Seems their education system is better than ours.

Fact check: True

Pugchief 02-01-2025 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Switter (Post 2406082)

Another problem is eventually someone will figure out how to monetize it. Think of Google search. Most of the results that you get at the top of your search are paid for. It wasn't like that early on. Enjoy it now while it is still relatively free from that.

I'm way more concerned about biases that are being built into the models. They should ideally be completely fact based and free of any biases of any kind.

fdpaq0580 02-01-2025 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2406231)
If you think that's nuts, try learning the difference between Dorchester (Dah-ches-tah) and South Boston (sow-thee). Or worse - Bedford-Stuyvesant (Bed-Stoo) New York and somewhere in the Delta region of Mississippi (I won't even try it).

Now imagine AI trying to understand someone from San Antonio trying to have a full-blown conversation with it, when Texans talk a mile a minute with a thick drawl and don't pronounce half the words in the sentences.

Imagine just how incredible the "universal translator" from Star Trek had to be. AI on steroids, maybe. The only thing better would be the Vulcan mind-meld. Not ready for that yet. Even at my age too many embarrassing thoughts.

Switter 02-01-2025 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2406234)
I'm way more concerned about biases that are being built into the models. They should ideally be completely fact based and free of any biases of any kind.

Yeah, that's a good point too. I'm looking at you Googleโ€ฆ

BrianL99 02-01-2025 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2406142)
Yes I LOVE AI! Btw, โ€œaiโ€ in Mandarin is the word for โ€œloveโ€.

I paint and I asked ChatGPT to give me hints on how to improve my art. Loaded up a photo of my painting of the golf course at Alamanda. ChatGPT gave very useful suggestions on how to improve it and orally too as if I was talking to a friend. A relative has written a story but in difficult, convoluted language - itโ€™s hard to read - and I asked DeepSeek to translate it into simpler English. I tested this on one paragraph. Very nicely and readably translated. Then I asked DeepSeek to translate it into Spanish and French. DeepSeek did a wonderful job, no editing required. Both of these AIs are free apps on my iPhone.

And the code (at least mostly for DeepSeek) is public - anyone can build on it like when Pythagoras shared his theorem, or Einstein his formula for the speed of light. And now Sam Altman is consider doing something similar for ChatGPT. For me, this is really an exciting time to be alive.

Excellent points. I think the majority of posters on this thread, are confusing what AI really is. Customer Service bots, are like comparing a 1961 Chevy Impala, to a 2025 Lexus. True AI is leap years ahead of the bots you get on the telephone or CS Chat.

My daughter's job requires huge amounts of time, writing memos and emails, that are disseminated to 100's of diverse people ... she uses AI all day to help with her work load. I've used it for letters and memos and it's amazing.

We all see wonderful photographs, posted daily on all sorts of social media sites. There's not a "real photo" to be found. They've all been manipulated by the myriad of filers and enhancers, available on everyone's phone. AI offers that same sort of improvement for writers, speakers, researchers and just about anything or anyone.

There will inherently be "biases", but that's true of every written or spoken work ... or research or conclusion.

For years it's been, "I read it on the Internet, so it must be true". Now it's becoming "AI told me, so it must be true". The truly intelligent people, will be the ones that can sort through facts (however accumulated) and come up with the correct interpretation and application of the facts.

tophcfa 02-01-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2406077)
I use the chat feature whenever it's available. This usually works, but sometimes you still have a machine at the other end, so I may resort to typing in "live operator".

The chat feature never seems to work. I ask it to put on a live English speaking human being, who I can talk to, and it canโ€™t ever seem to accommodate my request.

retiredguy123 02-02-2025 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2406077)
I use the chat feature whenever it's available. This usually works, but sometimes you still have a machine at the other end, so I may resort to typing in "live operator".

Have you ever used an auto dealer's chat feature? All they want is your phone number so a salesperson can call you. The chat system has no information about their vehicles or pricing.


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