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stanley 12-17-2020 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1874607)
Still scratching my head. Would you care to elaborate?
If it came down to getting a microchip implanted somewhere in your body, for proof of getting the vaccine, would you still get it? How will anyone know if another got the vaccine? It may seem like a silly question now but is perfectly plausible in the future.

patfla06 12-17-2020 11:11 AM
Actually the CDC tells the cruise lines what the rules will be. :ohdear:

Dana1963 12-17-2020 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1873494)
Cruising seems to be very popular with Villagers, myself and hubby included. I am hoping that cruise lines mandate their passengers and crew to be vaccinated before boarding their ships.
” Its has become very clear to me why the 1918 pandemic was followed by the roaring 20s & why people were dressing up to go just about anywhere”

asianthree 12-17-2020 07:42 PM
Just because there is a vaccine, doesn’t mean something else could effect the masses. Companies need money, they may ask if you would get a vaccine, but it’s not mandatory.
If you are vaccinated, and you have a 96% chance of effective vaccine, why would you be worried, unless you are not believing in the data from science

coffeebean 12-17-2020 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1874623)
Today you care about the COVID vaccine and you intend/expect/hope to get it. What happens tomorrow? Will the cruise industry decide that the mandate for the COVID vaccine worked well and require documentation of a flu vaccine or hepatitis or meningitis or measles? It would be all in the spirit of ensuring the ship is disease free.

Or maybe they want to go further to ensure the safety of their passengers. Perhaps there will be a study that shows people over 80 are more likely to die than those under 80 so the cruise lines will impose an age limit. Certainly, some of the excursions can be physically demanding and those with heart or weight problems could be adversely affected so maybe they should require cardiac health certifications or body fat measurements.

Basically, it's terribly risky to invite an entity (cruise lines, the govt, the developer) to impose restrictions and requirements. Sure, what they impose today fits with your thinking and makes sense but what they impose tomorrow might not.
Thank you for your comprehensive answer. I still would like the cruise lines to impose a mandate for Covid vaccination.

dadoiron 12-17-2020 09:25 PM
Yes?
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1873494)
Cruising seems to be very popular with Villagers, myself and hubby included. I am hoping that cruise lines mandate their passengers and crew to be vaccinated before boarding their ships.
I am hearing that from Celebrity, NCL and Carnival so far. Cruising is likely to restart when vaccines have bly- likely in April-May. All seem to want proof so I will ask my Doctor for a travel note when I get the vaccines.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-18-2020 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1874623)
Today you care about the COVID vaccine and you intend/expect/hope to get it. What happens tomorrow? Will the cruise industry decide that the mandate for the COVID vaccine worked well and require documentation of a flu vaccine or hepatitis or meningitis or measles? It would be all in the spirit of ensuring the ship is disease free.

Or maybe they want to go further to ensure the safety of their passengers. Perhaps there will be a study that shows people over 80 are more likely to die than those under 80 so the cruise lines will impose an age limit. Certainly, some of the excursions can be physically demanding and those with heart or weight problems could be adversely affected so maybe they should require cardiac health certifications or body fat measurements.

Basically, it's terribly risky to invite an entity (cruise lines, the govt, the developer) to impose restrictions and requirements. Sure, what they impose today fits with your thinking and makes sense but what they impose tomorrow might not.
As a business, a cruise line has every right to decide who they will or will not do business with. They every right to impose whatever restrictions that'd like as long as they are not prohibited by law.

As far as age discrimination, if they can show that people over a certain age places them at risk, they might have a case for being to have an age limit.

blueash 12-18-2020 12:21 PM
If you don't believe that the travel industry can disallow passengers based on their health status you might wish to read THIS which reviews the restrictions placed on pregnant women who wish to fly. For those do cruise you certainly are aware of the health screening form you are required to supply to check in which asks about recent illness.

Princess has this already on their website
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We're making sure embarkation reflects best practices by including:

mandatory health screenings including pre-travel testing for COVID-19, touchless temperature checks and health questionnaires
secondary screenings (and health checks throughout the cruise) when necessary
we will refer anyone with signs and symptoms of COVID-19 for additional medical screening and testing before allowing to board
Once vaccines are available I am certain that the cruise industry will require documentation as may the international ports to which the ships go. No vaccine, no entry. It seems likely that there will be a mechanism to have the vaccine information stored in your passport perhaps via a stamp or digitally.
Once the world gets this pandemic under control there will be a massive effort to keep it that way.

coffeebean 12-18-2020 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1874997)
As a business, a cruise line has every right to decide who they will or will not do business with. They every right to impose whatever restrictions that'd like as long as they are not prohibited by law.

As far as age discrimination, if they can show that people over a certain age places them at risk, they might have a case for being to have an age limit.
Why deny boarding to a senior who has been vaccinated? The senior is a safer bet than a young non vaccinated person.


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