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Battlebasset 06-13-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 2225732)
Amen on all points. I may want to be something I'm not (I don't) but saying I am something different does not make it so. I feel for those who aren't happy with who/what they are but calling themselves something different changes nothing. The natural maturing process is problematic enough for our youth of today without the additional emotional burden and confusion created by this craziness.

Agree. You can put all of the Ford parts on a Chevy you want. It doesn't make it a Ford.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2225970)
FOX News! Everybody drink! (but not Bud Light...)


P.S. What do you call the people who tried (and failed) to boycott Chick-fil-A? Were they also "bigots"? Or is that term reserved only for people you don't agree with?

Which time and for what reason?

If the boycott was in protest of Chick-fil-A's (CfA's) association with a particular group or refusal to denounce a particular group - basically if they wanted to boycott because the store refused to join them in their hate then yes, I would call them bigots as well.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2225975)
Best not make a stand against pedophilia lest you be called a bigot. What an upside down world.

Are you trying to portray the LGBTQ community as all pedophiles? If so, then I believe the saying starts, "if the shoe fits...."

Whitley 06-13-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2225979)
Are you trying to portray the LGBTQ community as all pedophiles? If so, then I believe the saying starts, "if the shoe fits...."

Some do tend to read things that are not there. Perhaps that is something that needs to explored with someone schooled in the topic?
It is hard to defend against pedophilia, so it is understandable that those who are guilty of, or support such a thing, would want to pull in gay and lesbian into the mix to cloud the waters. The truth is, very few care if someone is hetero or homo. What people do care about is stopping the sickness where grown men and women feel the need to come out to six year old children, or discuss personal sexual topics with kids. There are actually people who are protesting Fl's law that teachers can not discuss their sexual orientation with little kids. Protect Children and Protect Real Women. While Florida is banning children from attending drag shows, states like California are pushing a bill to take children away from parents who refuse to get their five year old gender surgery or give them puberty blockers.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2225989)
Some do tend to read things that are not there. Perhaps that is something that needs to explored with someone schooled in the topic?
It is hard to defend against pedophilia, so it is understandable that those who are guilty of, or support such a thing, would want to pull in gay and lesbian into the mix to cloud the waters. The truth is, very few care if someone is hetero or homo. What people do care about is stopping the sickness where grown men and women feel the need to come out to six year old children, or discuss personal sexual topics with kids. There are actually people who are protesting Fl's law that teachers can not discuss their sexual orientation with little kids. Protect Children and Protect Real Women. While Florida is banning children from attending drag shows, states like California are pushing a bill to take children away from parents who refuse to get their five year old gender surgery or give them puberty blockers.

So that I do not again get accused of reading things that are not there, what in the world are you trying to say with your comments about pedophilia? Was it just a public service announcement or did it somehow relate to this thread?

Are you aware that there is no FL law that prohibits teachers from discussing their sexual orientation with kids of any age, at least according to the sponsors? But add me to your list of those opposed to the poorly-written, and poorly-considered Don't Say Gay laws.

JMintzer 06-13-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2225975)
Best not make a stand against pedophilia lest you be called a bigot. What an upside down world.

The new term is "MAP"... "Minor Attracted Person"...

JMintzer 06-13-2023 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2225978)
Which time and for what reason?

If the boycott was in protest of Chick-fil-A's (CfA's) association with a particular group or refusal to denounce a particular group - basically if they wanted to boycott because the store refused to join them in their hate then yes, I would call them bigots as well.

Nice spin...

JMintzer 06-13-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2225979)
Are you trying to portray the LGBTQ community as all pedophiles? If so, then I believe the saying starts, "if the shoe fits...."

"ALL"? Yes, that is exactly what he said... Except he didn't...

JMintzer 06-13-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2225999)
So that I do not again get accused of reading things that are not there, what in the world are you trying to say with your comments about pedophilia? Was it just a public service announcement or did it somehow relate to this thread?

Are you aware that there is no FL law that prohibits teachers from discussing their sexual orientation with kids of any age, at least according to the sponsors? But add me to your list of those opposed to the poorly-written, and poorly-considered Don't Say Gay laws.

You mean the "Don't say Gay" laws that don't exist?

Bill14564 06-13-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226020)
Nice spin...

No spin at all. You asked a question and I asked for clarification. If your clarification matches the criteria of a bigot then yes, they would be bigots. It is really that simple.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226022)
You mean the "Don't say Gay" laws that don't exist?

The law was passed and I believe it may have been expanded this session. Try to keep up.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226021)
"ALL"? Yes, that is exactly what he said... Except he didn't...

So the hate, prejudice, and discrimination in this and other threads is really directed at only one or a few trans individuals? I definitely missed *those* distinctions.

JMintzer 06-13-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2226025)
The law was passed and I believe it may have been expanded this session. Try to keep up.

Show me where "Don't say Gay" or anything like it is in the law... Or in any proposed "expansion" of the law...

JMintzer 06-13-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2226028)
So the hate, prejudice, and discrimination in this and other threads is really directed at only one or a few trans individuals? I definitely missed *those* distinctions.

I (and many others) have been quite clear on those who's actions I/we find problematic...

You seem to be the one with the broad brush...

Bill14564 06-13-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226036)
Show me where "Don't say Gay" or anything like it is in the law... Or in any proposed "expansion" of the law...

Nice try

JMintzer 06-13-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2226038)
Nice try

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Bill14564 06-13-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226037)
I (and many others) have been quite clear on those who's actions I/we find problematic...

You seem to be the one with the broad brush...

Yep, Bud Light for acknowledging a trans person in a non-negative way, Target for selling clothes with rainbows, and I don't recall the others with the gall to be accepting.

Forgive me for using my brain (some of ours still work) and seeing a connection.

Whitley 06-13-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2225999)
So that I do not again get accused of reading things that are not there, what in the world are you trying to say with your comments about pedophilia? Was it just a public service announcement or did it somehow relate to this thread?

Are you aware that there is no FL law that prohibits teachers from discussing their sexual orientation with kids of any age, at least according to the sponsors? But add me to your list of those opposed to the poorly-written, and poorly-considered Don't Say Gay laws.

Once again, reading what is not there. Would you please show me where in the bill, anywhere in the bill, it says Don't Say Gay, or was that just a dishonest attempt to divide people?

Whitley 06-13-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2226017)
The new term is "MAP"... "Minor Attracted Person"...

What color on the rainbow flag are they getting? I'm sure it has been discussed.

Whitley 06-13-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2226025)
The law was passed and I believe it may have been expanded this session. Try to keep up.

Are you saying the bill was expanded, and now it has "Don't Say Gay" in it?
I would be shocked but willing to read it if you can point out where that is in the bill.

Bill14564 06-13-2023 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2226044)
Once again, reading what is not there. Would you please show me where in the bill, anywhere in the bill, it says Don't Say Gay, or was that just a dishonest attempt to divide people?

The dishonesty is not mine.

manaboutown 06-14-2023 09:41 AM

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