Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1546110)

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NRA's Chris Cox falsely says Dianne Feinstein wanted to take 'all of your guns' | PolitiFact


What, the NRA...again?! :oops:


Facts Matter

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1546150)

Right on target. Practical approaches to gun control for the US. Crippling lawsuits against arms manufacturers would be a solution as that worked with tobacco for a while. They have modified the manufacture of tobacco quite but that is to be expected as where there is a need people find a way of fulfilling it like with booze and the prohibition.

Stop the sale of guns in gun shows unless they are very heavily regulated.

Get rid of the sale of guns that any reasonable person would see as a battlefield weapon.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1546150)

Right on target. Practical approaches to gun control for the US. Crippling lawsuits against arms manufacturers would be a solution as that worked with tobacco for a while. They have modified the manufacture of tobacco quite but that is to be expected as where there is a need people find a way of fulfilling it like with booze and the prohibition.

Stop the sale of guns in gun shows unless they are very heavily regulated.

Get rid of the sale of guns that any reasonable person would see as a battlefield weapon.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1546150)

Right on target. Practical approaches to gun control for the US. Crippling lawsuits against arms manufacturers would be a solution as that worked with tobacco for a while. They have modified the manufacture of tobacco quite but that is to be expected as where there is a need people find a way of fulfilling it like with booze and the prohibition.

Stop the sale of guns in gun shows unless they are very heavily regulated.

Get rid of the sale of guns that any reasonable person would see as a battlefield weapon.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1546048)

Every time there is a mass shooting, the same old sides divide up and expostulate about their proposed solutions for preventing future shootings.

Today, I hope to bring a degree of rational realization about the real world to the Gun Ban crowd.

But first, let us play a "what if" game. Pretend with me that I have a magic wand that will allow me to simply wave it and at Noon tomorrow every gun in America that is not possessed by a law enforcement officer or a member of the military will disappear forever.

That's at Noon. By Midnight there will be thousands of guns in criminal hands across America, and a thriving Black Market for the sale and purchase of these guns will be in place.

How can this happen, you ask. It's simple. Individual police officers will be assaulted, knifed, of killed, in order to take their sidearms, and their cars will be broken into to obtain their rifles or shotguns.

Also, National Guard Armories will be burglarized to obtain weapons of war, and rogue military custodians of similar articles will be selling them. (There is a Black Market for hand grenades.)

Now, enough of fantasy. Assume that a law were to be passed banning personal possession of firearms, which is so unlikely that it might be considered fantasy. But, if such a law were to be passed, there are multi-millions of firearms that would not be turned in for destruction. They would enter the underground Black Market economy and there are not enough police officers in the United States to effectively monitor or enforce such a ban.

So, face it --- you cannot rid America of guns.

Aha, the anti-gunners respond. At least we can ban “assault weapons” and “high capacity magazines.” We can make the remaining guns be less effective killing machines.

Well, not really.

Did you ever hear of Sgt. Alvin York? While a Corporal in World War I, he was credited with killing at least 25 German soldiers in a confrontation where they were trying to kill him. He was armed with a bolt action rifle adopted by the Army in 1903 and capable of firing only five rounds before being reloaded.

And, in addition there is still that pesky Second Amendment. People are entitled to own firearms as a right of the individual. The Supreme Court says so.

SO, please put your brains in gear and start thinking of some creative ways to prevent shootings at schools, or to mitigate their effects when they do occur. No solution is going to be 100% effective, but we need to work together in developing new ideas for school security.

Gun bans is not the answer.

Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1546131)

Simple

Ban all Guns.


When is this slaughter going to end?


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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1546185)

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1546185)

There are no easy solutions. There are no compromises that will make either side happy. Almost total banning of guns has worked in other nations. Not so sure it would work here. Some things I would like to see are stricter and more thorough background checks, no bump stocks allowed, no military grade “assault” type weapons in the hands of common citizens, no metal-piercing bullets, serious gun training and testing for all who buy weapons. Anyone convicted of a DUI should be banned from owning guns — if you can’t stop yourself from getting behind the wheel of your car while high, you really can’t be trusted to keep nor use a gun safely in my mind.

Parents that allow easy access to weapons should face the exact same charges as their children. You know your kids and, if you don’t, shame on you. Check their social media. Know what games they are playing and restrict access to those games you deem inappropriate. Ditto for movies and television programs.

The idea of metal detectors, armed guards, etc. at schools nauseates me. However, there is no denying it has become a necessity. Our children deserve to be feel safe at school. So, do what it takes to make that happen NOW.

I’m tired of hearing about kids shooting kids because a gun was left laying around. I’m sick of drive by killings. I’m really sick and tired of school shootings. Get the media to quit publicizing names and photos of shooters. The story can be told without that information.

There are things we can and should do today. First and foremost, PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1546205)

We have Freedom of the Press so I do not believe that the focus on the shooter will subside. At least, they are spending a lot more press time on the survivors/victims and their families.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1546221)

Having traveled all over the world, I only know of one place where a gun ban works. Singapore. And that is because if you are caught with a gun, or drugs, or committing a violent crime you are tried and executed within a few days. So couple that with a gun ban and maybe I could support it.

Most other places with less harsh punishment, gun bans have failed miserably. And none of that will solve the problem of crazies who want to kill someone. They will use a knife, a bomb, a car, something else