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Looking for next wife 07-23-2021 07:36 AM

Quote earlier: What most have already said. I have no interest in supporting a team or person that disrespects our country.


Why don't you stop being so hurt and man up and support all the OTHER hundreds of our athletes that did not disrespect our country. Do you not realize you are playing right into their hands. If everyone did what you are doing there would be no support for the US. They would throw then the biggest "winning" party ever.

Relax, get back in charge, let them make a fool of themselves.

mrf6969 07-23-2021 07:45 AM

Was going to watch but not now since politics has entered and is being allowed. Sick and very sad what is taking place in our homeland and some areas around the world.

kathy1516 07-23-2021 08:01 AM

Nope until they stop with this woke garbage, I’m out. Those athletes who disrespect the flag my wish is they lose. I won’t support the tv channels carrying it nor their sponsors. I believe we can all make a difference and get the message to all of them by not watching. Let’s take back America!

Looking for next wife 07-23-2021 08:09 AM

Don't you mean abandon America. Geeeez How can you give 1 percent all of your power and take your ball and go home sniffling. Enjoy Days of Our Lives, lol.

BostonRich 07-23-2021 08:14 AM

Nope. Absolutely not. I have no interest in watching these ungrateful athletes. I just don't care anymore. Woke BS has ruined many of the sports I used to love and it ****es me off. Don't tell me they have the "right" to protest. I could care less about their "right" to be disrespectful.

fgaba1949 07-23-2021 08:15 AM

I wish they would publish a list of the PROTESTING US so called OLMPYIANS
 
I would cheer against everyone of "OUR" Athletes who are suppose to be representing our Country by Protesting our Country.

aallbrand 07-23-2021 08:21 AM

out with old in with the new
 
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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1976704)
No, lost interest in all sports over the last few years because of politics.

Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

aallbrand 07-23-2021 08:23 AM

out with the old in with the new
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1976719)
Nope, not going to watch all the kneelers, trashing America that gave them so much....Just going to find out if the "female" hammer thrower, and the "women's" soccer team, and such are eliminated, and crack open a beer...Hopefully in the future when we have America back, will look forward to the Olympics again...

Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

KRMACK55 07-23-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgreen3 (Post 1976703)
No until they take the politics out of sports I will not support any of them. If entitled athletes want to disrespect our country then they should not represent the USA. If Network TV want's to cause division in our country then they should not profit from the games or anything else for that matter. Color me jaded.

Jaded you’re my hero ! To add to exactly that the crooks from the cable companies force sports networks on us then charge us for them. My favorite goodbye will be to Spectrum next month then on to streaming in a new and better life out of my comfort zone.

fishon 07-23-2021 08:24 AM

Are you interested in the Japan 2020 OLYMPICS?

Not at all.
Too much toro poo poo.

Looking for next wife 07-23-2021 08:25 AM

Yes yes yes very well put

Looking for next wife 07-23-2021 08:28 AM

hank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new



YES YES YES TOTALLY CORRECT. I'm 73 but that is totally correct. Get back into the fray and join and lead. Not go home and pout.

Spalumbos62 07-23-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1977197)
Ok...help me out....
The question was if we'll watch or not, I too tend to not pay attention to Olympic ads, that are constantly on, therefore won't watch much if any.
Also, no audience or hoopla...certainly detours watching.....BUT, with all my " ignoring" I don't know what you guys are talking about. Hopefully without getting kicked off this someone can explain. What happened with Sweden soccer game? Who is dissing the US, my guess is the little blonde ? I tend to mute commercials and boring reports and obviously have missed allot.

On another note, usually during the Olympics the other stations have a crappy viewing lineup.....hopefully this year they will realize not to go that route and keep us happy.



Here's a first, responding to my own post lol
So I just read what Barry did....oh boy, not good.
This situation is not exactly the same as the NFL guy who took a knee....she's going there to represent the USA, (not get paid by some franchise). So, yes this leaves a very bad taste in our mouths.
Why don't these athletes think? Don't smoke marijuana and think it's ok. Don't protest your own country and think it's ok. First you go and Win....then come home, being respected and then state your case....people will probably listen.

jbartle1 07-23-2021 08:59 AM

Hoping Olympic cooperation among countries will rub off on all of us. It's time to heal. "And the world will live as one", I hope I'm not a dreamer (thank you John Lennon)

Taltarzac725 07-23-2021 09:25 AM

Google when this kneeling occurred and by whom. And look for a credible source.

Rick Kiwus 07-23-2021 09:56 AM

I will not watch after all these woke athletes disrespect the US!

Rick Kiwus 07-23-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 1977257)
Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

not so!

Petersweeney 07-23-2021 10:19 AM

Can’t wait to watch woman’s high jump competition- Ukrainian women are on a roll……

waynehal55 07-23-2021 10:22 AM

The only sport I would watch is REAL women beach volleyball - if they take
a knee.....I shut the t.v.

npwalters 07-23-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Looking for next wife (Post 1977206)
Quote earlier: What most have already said. I have no interest in supporting a team or person that disrespects our country.


Why don't you stop being so hurt and man up and support all the OTHER hundreds of our athletes that did not disrespect our country. Do you not realize you are playing right into their hands. If everyone did what you are doing there would be no support for the US. They would throw then the biggest "winning" party ever.

Relax, get back in charge, let them make a fool of themselves.

Guess you missed this part: a team or person that disrespects our country.
Your ramble was almost incoherent.

Taltarzac725 07-23-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1977346)
Guess you missed this part: a team or person that disrespects our country.
Your ramble was almost incoherent.

How do they disrespect the USA? This kneeling from what I understand has been done by athletes from many countries and at different sporting events in many countries. It is taking on racism in many countries. And racism pops up in many countries and has for centuries if not for thousands of years. It changes a lot though.

https://www.baylor.edu/content/servi...php/110990.pdf

JSR22 07-23-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1977348)
How do they disrespect the USA? This kneeling from what I understand has been done by athletes from many countries and at different sporting events in many countries. It is taking on racism in many countries.

Totally agree with you! JKneeling does not offend me.

JSR22 07-23-2021 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 1977257)
Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

I agree 100%!

npwalters 07-23-2021 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1977348)
How do they disrespect the USA? This kneeling from what I understand has been done by athletes from many countries and at different sporting events in many countries. It is taking on racism in many countries. And racism pops up in many countries and has for centuries if not for thousands of years. It changes a lot though.

https://www.baylor.edu/content/servi...php/110990.pdf

Kneeling during the US National Anthem is blatant disrespect to our country. I will always view it as such no matter how many sheep join in.

JSR22 07-23-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1977356)
Kneeling during the US National Anthem is blatant disrespect to our country. I will always view it as such no matter how many sheep join in.


I do not consider it disrespectful. I view it as a protest.

Marty94 07-23-2021 11:31 AM

I always believed that being a member of the US Olympic team meant that you were wearing a uniform that represented your country, not yourself. I wore a uniform representing my country for 28 years. I never thought of myself, but of what that uniform represented. More so, making political statements while in uniform was against regulations. Specifically, Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 (DoDD 1344.10), Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, and the spirit and intent of that directive is effectively the same as that of the Hatch Act for Federal civil servants.

It’s my belief that Olympic athletes wearing a uniform be expected to follow similar guidelines. If you’re going to represent your country, your personal activism should be left at home because you’re no longer representing your country, but yourself.

Taltarzac725 07-23-2021 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1977356)
Kneeling during the US National Anthem is blatant disrespect to our country. I will always view it as such no matter how many sheep join in.

That is not allowed as far as I can tell at the Olympics. They knelt at the start of the game in which they were playing. Soccer Players Kneel in First Test of Updated Olympic Protest Rules

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But as athletes have pushed for more opportunities to use their platforms to speak out against injustices, many have criticized Rule 50. Earlier this month, the IOC released a new version of the rule, which for the first time allows athletes to express themselves on the field of play, but only prior to competition.

Before the opening ceremonies had even kicked off in Tokyo, the rule was already put to the test. Several women’s soccer matches took place before the opening ceremonies, and members of five different teams took a knee on the field before the start of their matches.

coconutmama 07-23-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1976656)
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me, not so much - and I must say...yet.

Much of the 'luster' of Olympic games are tarnished, for me.

First the 1-year delay in holding the Games due to Covid. Then the decision not to have ANY public attend the Games. Then the issues re some USA athletes and the anthem. Then, in the last couple weeks Covid has arisen in Japan, impacting some athletes. And of course the non-Live issue of holding the Games in Asia. So we'd already know results - such as the Women's soccer team losing 3-0 to Sweden - so....why tune in and watch? With all this NBC must be sweating after their $$$$$ investment.

I will probably do 'selective tuning-in'.

But I certainly enjoyed Wimbeldon tennis and the golf Open in England, even the Euro soccer championship. time will tell with the Olympics. I've been to Japan 10 times during my business career, and love the country, the people, and their spirit. But they can't catch a break re the Olympics.
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I support my country, so I will watch any event that interests me, same as any other Olympics. I appreciate the hard work the athletes have done, and pray everyone comes home safely

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-23-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty94 (Post 1977363)
I always believed that being a member of the US Olympic team meant that you were wearing a uniform that represented your country, not yourself. I wore a uniform representing my country for 28 years. I never thought of myself, but of what that uniform represented. More so, making political statements while in uniform was against regulations. Specifically, Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 (DoDD 1344.10), Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, and the spirit and intent of that directive is effectively the same as that of the Hatch Act for Federal civil servants.

It’s my belief that Olympic athletes wearing a uniform be expected to follow similar guidelines. If you’re going to represent your country, your personal activism should be left at home because you’re no longer representing your country, but yourself.

Our country no longer represents our country. The athletes who express their dismay with peaceful gestures of protest are doing EXACTLY what "representing our country" means.

As long as the Olympic committee is okay with it, then there's no problem. They're abiding by the rules. If they break the rules, they will need to stop, or be held accountable.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-23-2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty94 (Post 1977363)
I always believed that being a member of the US Olympic team meant that you were wearing a uniform that represented your country, not yourself. I wore a uniform representing my country for 28 years. I never thought of myself, but of what that uniform represented. More so, making political statements while in uniform was against regulations. Specifically, Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 (DoDD 1344.10), Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, and the spirit and intent of that directive is effectively the same as that of the Hatch Act for Federal civil servants.

It’s my belief that Olympic athletes wearing a uniform be expected to follow similar guidelines. If you’re going to represent your country, your personal activism should be left at home because you’re no longer representing your country, but yourself.

Olympic athletes are not members of the military. They are not subject to rules of the Department of Defense. Get real. If you want to go that route, then you'll need to ban Burger King employees from taking a knee and toss them in jail if they dare disobey, because they have uniforms too.

You fought for our right to protest. And - no one is kneeling for the National Anthem at the Olympics.

You're all fighting the wrong battle, with the wrong players, at the wrong battlefield, with the wrong battle song.

justjim 07-23-2021 12:40 PM

I will DVR the games and watch some. Dean, it’s a shame what has happen to the Olympics this time around. I’m surprised that more Japanese are not vaccinated. It is what it is…

jimjamuser 07-23-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1976807)
I lost interest in the Olympics in my mid-twenties.

I lost interest because I felt sorry for the host country because about 80% of Japanese don't want the Games to proceed. They are justifiably afraid of a CV surge happening from the influx of foreign athletes, staff, and TV personnel. Left alone, the Japanese had a very small CV problem that they were dealing with without vaccines. Now with the Olympics that has changed - they need vaccines because just about 5% of their population has had shots. I would have liked to see the games postponed for another year to see if the pandemic improves.

There are several things that I don't understand about this Japanese situation. Perhaps someone can enlighten me ? Why could not a country with so much wealth and industrial capability make their own vaccine or buy the right to produce one? Russia and other countries have made a vaccine of their own. Also, how could Japan have let itself be SO unaware of the situation with the Olympics coming up? Thank you!

jimjamuser 07-23-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1977140)
I haven't been interested in the Olympics since they turned it into a professional event.

The 1980 US Hockey team was one of the great sports stories of all time. It's unlikely that we'll ever se anything like that again.

I can't believe that so many people thought that the Dream Team was such a great event. It was a bunch of the best basketball players in he world beating up on a bunch of kids.

As far I'm concerned, the Olympics has been destroyed by money.

I agree that the Olympics is NOT the place for pro athletes. Let the college amateurs have their day in the spotlight - many will NOT make or struggle to make the professional ranks. Fair IS fair - spread out the wealth. Just making a good college team requires much time and effort - I know personally. A large middle-class of athletes make the larger society of men and women stronger and more alert. Sports can be VERY instructive and fulfilling - the more that participate the better.

jimjamuser 07-23-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 1977257)
Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

That overall is a great post for TV Landers to remember about the Olympics and MANY other areas. Thank you for your great clarity!

Marty94 07-23-2021 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1977405)
Olympic athletes are not members of the military. They are not subject to rules of the Department of Defense. Get real. If you want to go that route, then you'll need to ban Burger King employees from taking a knee and toss them in jail if they dare disobey, because they have uniforms too.

You fought for our right to protest. And - no one is kneeling for the National Anthem at the Olympics.

You're all fighting the wrong battle, with the wrong players, at the wrong battlefield, with the wrong battle song.

Olympic athletes are subject to the rules of the Olympic Committee to include doping, etc., and I acknowledge that. And contrary to your post, some are members of the military. In fact, I had several assigned to my command who trained full time for the Olympics. This year there are 19 athletes who are in the military. And the US OC does have rules of personal conduct. After this post, I texted a close personal friend who is a 4 time Olympic coach. He stated that they do have rules concerning personal conduct, but they aren’t enforced. He went on to say the following, “They’re not reprimanded. And with very few exceptions most, like a shot putter, make zero money from the games, get zero attention at the games, no one knows their name and no one watches. So when you’re the third best shot put athlete in the nation, you need to do something to get any kind of attention. So that’s exactly what they do. Most of it’s financial because they’re hoping that a sympathizer hires them to do a couple of speeches or pays them to be on a podcast or two.”

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-23-2021 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1977431)
I agree that the Olympics is NOT the place for pro athletes. Let the college amateurs have their day in the spotlight - many will NOT make or struggle to make the professional ranks. Fair IS fair - spread out the wealth. Just making a good college team requires much time and effort - I know personally. A large middle-class of athletes make the larger society of men and women stronger and more alert. Sports can be VERY instructive and fulfilling - the more that participate the better.

This isn't new though. In 1976, the IOC eliminated the rule that athletes couldn't accept sponsorships or other compensation. Most live on sponsorships - it's not likely any family could provide training, travel, maintain membership, pay competition expenses, with just a normal mom and dad average American salary - and still pay their mundane bills. Also, -training- for the Olympics was paid for by their countries' government, outside the USA. The amateur-only status of Americans was a pretty big disadvantage.

Professional athletes were added to eligibility in 1986.

donassaid 07-23-2021 03:15 PM

Very well said and my views exactly. So tired of these athletes who want to promote their own agenda instead of representing their country.

DaleDivine 07-23-2021 04:36 PM

Not in the least interested...
:ohdear::ohdear::popcorn::popcorn:

Aloha1 07-23-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 1977257)
Thank got the world is not run by old folks who forget whats its like to speak up for injustice.and use what ever platform to make change. The young are the future. Many of the same folks who boycott sports because some athletes try to bring change were rebels when they were young but grew up to be jaded and selfish

out with the old in with the new

Just because they are young doesn't mean they are right. And just because we are older doesn't mean we are wrong.

llmcdaniel 07-23-2021 05:31 PM

Olympics
 
As much as I love sports, I began to lose interest in the Olympics years ago when professional athletes, i.e. baseball, basketball, etc. began taking over the games. Suddenly, it was which country has the best professional athletes rather than the true amateurs competing from around the world. I will watch some of it, but I will be very selective in my choices.


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