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Hey, pole dancer’s are hard workers, the deserve to be poled.

Well, if they can pole the pole dancers, they should include the Formula1 and MotoGP drivers. And what is the average age of retirement of a judge or a senator? Or President?

One of my cousins is 74 or 75 I believe and still works. She and her husband were typical middle class, non-college educated working people who were setting aside a retirement savings nest egg. He didn't believe in life insurance for what ever reason, I guess believing he would live well past retirement age and accumulate a reasonable amount of savings. Well he died in his late 50's and my cousin had no choice but to keep on working. Their savings weren't enough for her to live off of even with social security so she needs a job that fills the gap. She doesn't work because she is bored, she works to have enough money in order to get by.

Excellent post...and perspective. :thumbup:

Predidcted by me years ago
 

Age wars.
We all think we are right.
I saw one poster and obvious retired teacher used the term fair contract. Fair to who? We are the people who paid for the contract by TAXES PAID. A teacher will claim income. Income does not count the fact that they do not work 52 weeks a year or the value of the pension, medical care etc. Oh and the money to pay you came from my pocket. My ability to save to pay MY BILLS now that I am retired and living not on a pension but on savings that were taxed before being saved and are taxed yet again on stock dividends or bond interest.
An age forced retirement age. The concept came about when FDR put in social security. Retiring people at 65 opened up jobs, that were is short supply during the depression, for others unemployed.
Perhaps, how we got here expecting government to manage things. My view on this issue. Our current tax system was drawn to discourage people from being on social security and working.
With a labor shortage, perhaps as in WWII the nation made it heroic for woman to work and then when the war ended expected lucy the riveter to quit and give her job to a man.
A bit of public relations and tax adjustment and the US could discover an unseen labor force to fill our labor shortage.
Fair, a term we regularly use is not at all clear. It always depends on who is looking at the issue AND FEW DARE TO SEE THE FACTS.

The big elephant in the room that does not seem to be seen yet in this thread is that many people have to work longer than they want to because they need to hold on to group health insurance for themselves and/or their spouse until age 65 for Medicare.

Take teachers, for example. How long a teacher works often depends on the amount of pension they would get on retirement. Fifteen years ago many teachers retired at age 55 in my district, 10 years ago many retired at age 60, today the average age of retirement is over 65. People are living longer, in my district 3 times as many are over age 100 as compared to 15 years ago. People are concerned that they do not outlive their pension. I’ve often heard the comment, “teach 30 years, retire for 35”.

GREAT thanks :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot: