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capecoralbill 12-14-2024 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2393281)
We're still on DirecTV sat. Been on it since 1997. I know I pay more but I like the convenience. May go to streaming at some point but we're happy for now.

Expect streaming rates to continue to rise. Many of the companies are struggling to make a profit due to the cost of programming. The days of cheap streaming are slowly going away.

I think the ridiculous professional sports salaries are to blame.

MX rider 12-14-2024 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2393582)
I look at streaming services every year and a couple years ago, dropped Dish and went to YT tv. YT tv didn’t have all the channels that we liked so we ended up with YT tv, paramount+, Netflix, shudder, Apple TV+, and a couple others I can’t think of. So if I wanted to watch a specific series, I would have to get out of YT tv and then remember which service had this series. We were bouncing around all over the place. After a year, I negotiated with Dish and they matched the price of what I was paying for all the services and it’s a set price for 3 years plus I got a $500 gift card so the overall price is cheaper.
I didn’t care what I was paying a month, it was just a hassle of switching services to watch something. Plus, if I wanted to bounce around for example, watching Fox business to a specific sporting event, I hit the recall button. Since we have used Dsh for decades, we remember the channel numbers so it’s easy and fast to get around.
Maybe in a couple years YT tv will have the majority of what we like to watch and I can switch.

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up how we feel and why we stayed with DirecTV.

ithos 12-14-2024 07:56 AM

Once football season is over I will try another plan as long as it has CNBC. I spend more time on YouTube than TVYouTube. I can do without ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC.

Edit: Don't forget about suppose.tv

justjim 12-14-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2393055)
The new rate will increase to 82.99 in January. $10/month increase. Cancelled. Probably back to Sling.

Still a good buy IMHO. Rates go up just a fact of life.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-14-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoletti (Post 2393589)
apollo group tv
160 a YEAR!
thousands of channels
some in theatre movies

It's great if you don't mind paying for a company that allows illegal broadcasts, copyright infringements, and pirated content that means the people who created the content don't get paid.

No, Apollo doesn't do that themselves. They just PROVIDE it. That's how they get away with being called "legal." If you're using this, and any broadcast group is investigating warez (what all that illegal pirating stuff is called), and one of the pings traces back to you, they WILL shut you off, and you CAN be prosecuted.

Mrprez 12-14-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HIgolfers (Post 2393558)
How are you only paying 56.99 for You tube TV?

Might be a promotional rate. Reality will set in soon.

jrref 12-14-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2393534)
...and yet, they had no problem letting me keep my current prices for another 6 months. I just had to call them and say I was planning on cancelling and wanted some logistics information before doing so.

YouTubeTV's ad revenue increased by almost 2Billion this year, from 5.7B to 7.5B. Their operating costs are only around $200 million. "Just the way it is" is correct. But the thing that's just the way it is, isn't the thing you think it is.

So what do you think is their real driver for increasing subscription rates?

tophcfa 12-14-2024 09:26 AM

Let’s put this into perspective. It’s going to cost about the same for a one month subscription to watch and record unlimited TV at both of our homes as it will after taxes for a Villages resident to play one 18 hole round of golf at Palmer starting January 1st. Looking at it that way, the monthly subscription seems rather reasonable!

Freeda 12-14-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2393055)
The new rate will increase to 82.99 in January. $10/month increase. Cancelled. Probably back to Sling.

We pay $85 per month for DirectTv. Three tvs, dvr, all the regular broadcast channels plus hundreds more, search function allows us to watch many past tv show episodes or movies etc free on demand, can record episodes or an entire series of a show, we get all the news channels, many sports channels, music channels, and a lot more than we can watch; can watch many recent movies for a fee (similar to Prime). Customer service is a ph call away although we almost never need to call. We've had it for years and get many recurring loyalty etc discounts; it works fine for us. It is auto charged and paid through our CenturyLink Internet service, high speed, which is $45 per month; so $128 for the two services.

Regorp 12-14-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2393055)
The new rate will increase to 82.99 in January. $10/month increase. Cancelled. Probably back to Sling.

Still way better than cable and I still have my T-Mobile discount.

Mrprez 12-14-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeda (Post 2393647)
We pay $85 per month for DirectTv. Three tvs, dvr, all the regular broadcast channels plus hundreds more, search function allows us to watch many past tv show episodes or movies etc free on demand, can record episodes or an entire series of a show, we get all the news channels, many sports channels, music channels, and a lot more than we can watch; can watch many recent movies for a fee (similar to Prime). Customer service is a ph call away although we almost never need to call. We've had it for years and get many recurring loyalty etc discounts; it works fine for us. It is auto charged and paid through our CenturyLink Internet service, high speed, which is $45 per month; so $128 for the two services.

Is that through a satellite dish or streaming?

MikeVillages 12-14-2024 10:29 AM

YouTube TV Price Goes Up Again! Some ALTERNATIVES.
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OrangeBlossomBaby 12-14-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2393635)
So what do you think is their real driver for increasing subscription rates?

Partly politics. Partly because they can.

Harold.wiser 12-14-2024 03:36 PM

I was originally ready to cancel but then decided it's ten bucks a month...it won't change my life.

Furnier 12-14-2024 06:00 PM

Me too

Sunnies 12-14-2024 09:40 PM

Philo TV
 
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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2393055)
The new rate will increase to 82.99 in January. $10/month increase. Cancelled. Probably back to Sling.

Philo TV is $28/ mo with all your favorite channels including history channel.

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OrangeBlossomBaby 12-14-2024 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnies (Post 2393791)
Philo TV is $28/ mo with all your favorite channels including history channel.

No local news or sports channels. It's all the same stuff (other than the History channel) that comes free with a Roku or smartTV.

mikempp 12-15-2024 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2393055)
The new rate will increase to 82.99 in January. $10/month increase. Cancelled. Probably back to Sling.

I still have dish. It's about $90 a month. Are the other options better?

Mrprez 12-15-2024 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikempp (Post 2393807)
I still have dish. It's about $90 a month. Are the other options better?

There is no contract with streaming services so you can change companies at will.

Bill14564 12-15-2024 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mikempp (Post 2393807)
I still have dish. It's about $90 a month. Are the other options better?

Since you pay a similar price, whether other options are better is personal preference.

What would make another option better? Maybe a channel you cannot find, an old show that is not available with Dish's On-Demand, a movie that's only available on Prime or Peacock, hockey games from your favorite hockey team across the country, or four NFL games at a time. If you want those but cannot get them with Dish then that might make the other service better.

If I am traveling I can watch my channels wherever I can get a sufficient internet connection. I know DirectTV had a streaming app and I suspect Dish does too.

For me, quality of the signal varies from service to service. If I remember correctly, the video quality of most channels on Dish was very good though occasionally there might be an issue.

If you were paying two or three times as much for the same programming, like some are reporting for cable TV, then streaming would be better. If you are paying nearly the same amount and are happy with the channels you have then maybe there is nothing better.

MikeVillages 12-15-2024 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mikempp (Post 2393807)
I still have dish. It's about $90 a month. Are the other options better?

You can get an antenna. A few months of not paying disk will pay for the antenna & installation.
Lots of free channels like local news & weather, numerus US and some international channels. You can add plex. tv for free streaming and will have more than you can ever watch.

I recommend ZapperBox M1 - ATSC 3.0, 4K, HDR, and Dolby(R) AC-4 Tuner for an execulent DVR. It supports the current ATSC 1.0 and newer ATSC 3.0 tv standards including encryption. It will soon support multiple TVs over your local home network.

Topspinmo 12-15-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393168)
Probably should have looked into it a little before making that comment.

And I don’t care

New Englander 12-15-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2393793)
No local news or sports channels. It's all the same stuff (other than the History channel) that comes free with a Roku or smartTV.

For Free, the Roku channel is pretty darn good.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-15-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 2393876)
For Free, the Roku channel is pretty darn good.

Roku offers a ton of content on a variety of channels. Huge menu, over 350 channels. You can watch the Miss Universe pageant live, you can access one of the Reuters channels (some of them are subscription only), ABC and NBC live, Cheddar News, Live sports coverage (nothing "local"), Lifetime and Hallmark movies, Every possible syndicated rerun that's ever been broadcast since the 1950s...

Scores of movies (many obscure), AccuWeather, Cooking shows, This Old House...

All free. Plus you can "add on" options like Cinemax and HBO/MAX, Showtime, and Starz for an extra fee.

ithos 12-15-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2393610)
It's great if you don't mind paying for a company that allows illegal broadcasts, copyright infringements, and pirated content that means the people who created the content don't get paid.

No, Apollo doesn't do that themselves. They just PROVIDE it. That's how they get away with being called "legal." If you're using this, and any broadcast group is investigating warez (what all that illegal pirating stuff is called), and one of the pings traces back to you, they WILL shut you off, and you CAN be prosecuted.

There is a similar service called OMNIVision which provides the exact same service.

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Apollo TV, like many similar services, operates in a legal gray area or outright violates copyright laws by providing access to copyrighted content without authorization. Whether an end user can be fined or punished for subscribing to such a service depends on several factors, including local laws, enforcement practices, and the extent of the user’s involvement. Here's a breakdown:

1. Legal Status of Apollo TV
If Apollo TV streams copyrighted content without proper licenses, the service itself is likely violating copyright laws. In many jurisdictions, offering such a service is illegal.
2. Legal Risks for End Users
The extent of liability for end users depends on their country and how the law views streaming or downloading unauthorized content:

In the United States:
End users typically face less risk for simply streaming unauthorized content, as U.S. copyright law targets those who distribute or host the material. However, downloading or redistributing content could increase legal liability.
Subscription to such a service may also expose the user to investigation if the service is explicitly tied to illegal activities.
Last year an Omnivision rep was giving a sales presentation at Brownwood. The industry knows about it but doesn't do a damn thing about it.

Technically speaking, if you record the illegal content then you can be held civilly liable.

But there is almost a zero percent chance that will ever happen.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-15-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2393983)
There is a similar service called OMNIVision which provides the exact same service.

Last year an Omnivision rep was giving a sales presentation at Brownwood. The industry knows about it but doesn't do a damn thing about it.

Technically speaking, if you record the illegal content then you can be held civilly liable.

But there is almost a zero percent chance that will ever happen.

I vaguely recall one story that came out in some investigative journalism about this topic a few years ago. It involved someone who /was/ prosecuted for copying illegal content from a "grey area" provider of illegal content (aka Warez). Anyone who owns the copyright to content OR gets paid residuals when content is used (actors, directors, etc) - has the right to press charges when they discover someone is using it without them getting their percentage for the work THEY created.

And - there absolutely have been customers of some of these shady businesses that have been cut off from their service, with zero recourse even after they've paid for a year of service in advance (that was a thing for awhile).

MikeVillages 12-16-2024 01:35 AM

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