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senior citizen 06-26-2013 03:19 AM

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Quixote 06-26-2013 03:47 AM

As it should be....
 
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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 697917)
.... Now, in Vermont.....several years ago, a young adolescent girl was horribly murdered by her uncle....long story, but it happened around Randolph Vermont. Very little was ever divulged in the Vermont news. We know the basics......however, there was NO MEDIA HYPE AT ALL....

"NO MEDIA HYPE" is as it should be! You know, no one has a gun to our heads mandating us to watch; I certainly don't....

buggyone 06-26-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 697719)
Did you also know that those were not the jeans for a little boy going to the store getting skittles but "big guy"jeans . Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I think everyone knows Trayvon was about 6 feet tall and weighed about 160 and Zimmerman is 5 foot 9 and weighed about 200 at that time.

My comment, though, was that Zimmerman's jeans were not muddy as they probably would have been if he had been pinned and struggling under Martin.

Do you doubt that Martin went out to get snacks that night? A camera shows him buying that stuff not long before he was killed. Your post seems to indicate a doubt but maybe I misintrepted it.

gomoho 06-26-2013 09:05 AM

His jeans wouldn't have to be muddy if the confrontation took place on the sidewalk and in the grass. Wet yes, but not necessarily muddy.

graciegirl 06-26-2013 09:45 AM

I never realized this when I was younger.
 
It sometimes appears that so much is considered and judged on almost every issue by a persons political philosophy.

Knowing many posters political "slant" it seems how they feel about this issue is consistent with their philosophy.

Mine too I guess. I try to remain neutral and moderate but old habits die hard.

Is there such a thing as an unbiased jury in these times?


At my age I have far more questions than answers.

Taltarzac725 06-26-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 698031)
It sometimes appears that so much is considered and judged on almost every issue by a persons political philosophy.

Knowing many posters political "slant" it seems how they feel about this issue is consistent with their philosophy.

Mine too I guess. I try to remain neutral and moderate but old habits die hard.

Is there such a thing as an unbiased jury in these times?


At my age I have far more questions than answers.

Probably depends on the case and how much media saturation it has had before the trial. These kind of cases pop up in history before the age of Facebook, Twitter, TV, and other forms of communication. Actually, from what I have read of history; the media now is a lot more civil than it was during the era of yellow journalism and the even uglier personal attacks like those on President Abraham Lincoln and even before that like the contests between Jefferson and Adams. These attacks pop up in courts too and of course in pre-trial newspapers and the like.

I still believe that the best way to counter unfairness in court proceedings is a much better educated and informed jury pool and jury. Ironically, it seems that Zimmerman's case is about a man taking the law into his own hands.

gomoho 06-26-2013 12:21 PM

Gracie - as far as an unbiased jury - as I have been watching the witnesses you can tell by how they answer their questions who they believe is guilty. I'm hooked and fascinated how the attorney takes one point and can completely make it look like something else.

keithwand 06-26-2013 12:38 PM

Should have stayed in his truck....

Golfingnut 06-26-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keithwand (Post 698113)
Should have stayed in his truck....

Yup. :shrug:

Monkei 06-26-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by keithwand (Post 698113)
Should have stayed in his truck....

Yeah stayed in his truck where he was safe with his gun that he should not have had.

keithwand 06-26-2013 03:33 PM

That's right and then no one would be dead and no one would be on trial.

zonerboy 06-26-2013 07:19 PM

Does any body know why there are only six jurors in this case?
Thought most capital cases had ten or twelve?

Mallory 06-26-2013 07:30 PM

Not a capital case.

Barefoot 06-26-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 698107)
Gracie - as far as an unbiased jury - as I have been watching the witnesses you can tell by how they answer their questions who they believe is guilty. I'm hooked and fascinated how the attorney takes one point and can completely make it look like something else.

Not that it should matter, but I think Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias, being attractive young women, were both "easy on the eyes". And I think their appearance affected the Jury perception of whether they would be capable of a violent crime. I don't think Zimmerman makes a good impression as he sits there with his impassive expression. Not that he can change the way he looks, just an observation.

TrudyM 06-27-2013 12:28 AM

People act from their own fears and what they were taught. And of course their emotional state at the time.
Any person can at any time run into someone who is angry or frightened and if they have a gun then your life is at risk.
Years ago a Japanese college kid from Tulane looking for a Halloween party went up to the wrong house to ask directions. Man looked out saw someone that in his experience was the enemy and shot him. Did the kid deserve to get shot for walking up to the wrong house because he was lost. No
Did the guy plan to go out shooting every Asian kid he saw No.
But when a gun comes into the mix there is no turning back, no do over.


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