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Guest 11-12-2015 03:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144440)
Dumb answer to say the very least. You obviously have done no research on what it takes to qualify for these "entitlements". Come back after you have dug deeper into some learning and stop relying on catch phrases from your know-nothing political cronies.

Dumb response. I personally know people that are collecting those "entitlements" so, yes I know what it took for them to qualify for them. Come back after you pull your head out of your butt!

Guest 11-12-2015 04:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144410)
Do you believe that the landscapers, mowers, trimmers, and maintainence workers here in The Villages are all legal? Who would do that work if they left?

Who would do the work the 11 million do? Prices would climb as labor got more expensive. Economies in some towns would dry up completely.

Very funny! Liberals claiming that we would lose the cheap labor if we lose the illegals. On the other hand, Liberals want to make these same cheap labor employees into U.S. citizens. Do you really think that the cheap labor would continue once they are legal? Come on, use your head.
Now, lets add something else to the equation. Liberals talk about cheap labor on one hand while on the other hand they are talking about/insisting on a raise in minimum wages. Now, will that incorporate their so-called cheap labor force also?

You liberals just crack me up.......:a20:

Guest 11-12-2015 04:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144324)
Mass deportations of illegal immigrants will not happen in the USA no matter who gets to be President.

Donald Trump says he will have a "special deportation force" to seek out, capture, imprison and deport all 11 million illegals. First, doesn't that sound quite a bit like the SS Storm Troopers? Secondly, bull hockey on ever getting that done. Just more hot air from Trump.

Who cares what it sounds like to a liberal. It's a fact that if anything is to get done in this country, it is the conservatives that must do the dirty work. I have no problem with deporting 11 million illegals/criminals. As a matter of fact, deport Hilary along with them. She is also a criminal.

Put me in charge of deportation and I will have the country free of illegals in no more than five years. As a matter of fact, enforce the immigration laws and charge anyone hiring an illegal and most of the illegals will go home on their own.

Only liberals and RINOs think it can't be done. It would not be difficult at all.

Guest 11-12-2015 04:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144440)
Dumb answer to say the very least. You obviously have done no research on what it takes to qualify for these "entitlements". Come back after you have dug deeper into some learning and stop relying on catch phrases from your know-nothing political cronies.

It's quite obvious that it is you that knows nothing of what you speak.

There is a record amount of folks that gave up looking for a job. There is a record number of folks still on food stamps. The poverty level is at a record high.

A study was done a few years ago regarding what it would cost the average American house hold in produce IF illegals were deported or legalized. The finding was that produce would cost the average household an additional $8 per year. Now, this study was done several years ago, but I doubt it would go up much more today.

So, like the accusation of the Republican war on women, etc, etc, etc, making this illegal immigration thing an impossible task is just a liberal myth.

Guest 11-12-2015 10:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144460)
You certainly are not presenting that the 11 million is only made up of day laborers and workers who do jobs we don't do anymore.

Get the folks who are collecting unemployment to do the work.
Put the freeloaders who get government subsistence with no more effort tha going to the mail box.

The we can't live without them argument is weak, at best.

How does this type work get done in those areas of the country where the illegals are bountiful?
The same way it would get done anywhere else!

You are right....we can live without them. Looks like Albuquerque, NM, just may be getting a handle on some of this by being a little resourceful. I was reading where the city goes down to the unemployment office on weekday mornings and offers jobs around the city such as small landscaping (picking up trash in parks, parking lots, weeding common areas, and I forgot what other jobs), paying them $9.00 an hour for 5-1/2 hours per day. It's working, so apparently these people do WANT to work.

Why do ideas like this need to be limited to just a city or cities? Why would it not work in other sectors as well? One of my old bosses had some farm land, in addition to his primary business, and got his labor the same way. Not only were they paid, but fed and housed as well. I kept his books and always made sure I went to the farm at mealtime when I had farm business for him to do. His wife was an awesome cook! Not only was he a self-made millionaire, but his entire family knew what work was all about.

Get rid of all the encumbrances on businesses and they might well do the same. Not everyone has to make top dollar to start. They're called "entry-level" positions for a reason. That could translate to a win-win. People who have lost jobs through no fault of their own could be trained for those jobs.

Are these overnight solutions? Absolutely not. BUT, you have to start somewhere and saying keeping illegals is the answer is NOT the answer.

ILLEGAL is the operative word here. There are plenty of people of many different countries doing it the right way because that's the stuff they're made of. There was a swearing in ceremony on local TV not that long ago for a group of at least 40-something that had finished the process and were our newest citizens. To those, we should say, "Welcome"...and not the others who have circumvented the system for years being sent to the front of the line.

Guest 11-12-2015 11:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1144627)
You are right....we can live without them. Looks like Albuquerque, NM, just may be getting a handle on some of this by being a little resourceful. I was reading where the city goes down to the unemployment office on weekday mornings and offers jobs around the city such as small landscaping (picking up trash in parks, parking lots, weeding common areas, and I forgot what other jobs), paying them $9.00 an hour for 5-1/2 hours per day. It's working, so apparently these people do WANT to work.

Why do ideas like this need to be limited to just a city or cities? Why would it not work in other sectors as well? One of my old bosses had some farm land, in addition to his primary business, and got his labor the same way. Not only were they paid, but fed and housed as well. I kept his books and always made sure I went to the farm at mealtime when I had farm business for him to do. His wife was an awesome cook! Not only was he a self-made millionaire, but his entire family knew what work was all about.


Are these overnight solutions? Absolutely not. BUT, you have to start somewhere and saying keeping illegals is the answer is NOT the answer.

Your old boss had a good idea to use day laborers. It gives them some money and he gets cheap labor without having to do witholding or taxes.

The Albuquerque idea is good. I read the articles and it said the plan was to take panhandlers off the streets. It did not say anything about having to be a legal resident or citizen.


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