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Guest 06-27-2009 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211524)
Theres no discussion because it is the same people who would oppose anything this president and congress did. Why bother.

Ok. Lets start with you explaining the rational of of the bill that was encouraged by the current president and passed by a congress that didn't have the time to read said bill. Explain the logic and virtues of this bill and how it will benefit the average american citizen.
We welcome your participation and promise to be gentle with our responses.:boxing2:
http://www.youtube.com/v/BqHL404zhcU..._embedded&fs=1

Guest 06-27-2009 03:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211507)
OMG! I've been on this board for over a year and didn't realize a person couldn't just make a comment! Wow!!! Well, I learn something new everyday!

My point is that 5 or 6 of the same people just go round and round backing each other up. Where's the discussion??? Just an observation! IMHO. :)

So, after one or two sentences I've been called (by the "do not call names" group), "a drive-by poster" told to "get out of the way" and now "check out Twitter." OK guys... the floor is all yours! Good luck with that.

BTW, I love Twitter! :girlneener:

Hi Chels. I know. I got called "mushy middle" a couple of times. Gee. I know my middle does not look exactly like it did in my younger days, but I did not think that was a very nice thing to say. .....sniff....sniff.....sob

I don't show up around political much. The territory is the territory. And the most widely spoken language is the language of Frank Luntz. I am a moderate. But every once in a while I enter in. I get hung up with healthcare. So many need a solution to that mess. Something reasonable. Not an either/or. But without fail, I always end up wondering why I bothered to post. Oh well. I just have to try to middle through somehow.

Of course, I can avoid the political forum. That is my choice. But what makes me sad is that there are people in my life, people I actually know, who become quite angry over things political. And shout down anybody who might have a different opinion. And get really hateful looks on their faces.

And all this shouting is not just shouting down the complete opposite opinion but also shouting down the moderates. And the shouts are louder from the right. What are they thinking? When that happens they just drive more moderates away from the Republican party. The Republican party has got to quit saying to moderates, "We don't want your kind 'round here."

I am afraid that the true spirit of political discussion is being sucked out, more and more. What now passes for discussion, according to some, must take place in an echo chamber.

"What we got here is a failure to communicate."

Oh well.....I digress......nevermind.......carry on.

Boomer (and btw, I did give my opinion earlier on this climate bill thing. Bad news I am afraid. Toldya I am a moderate.)

Guest 06-27-2009 03:49 PM

Here we go...straight from the horse's mouth. Your electric bill is going to go up.

http://www.youtube.com/v/BqHL404zhcU..._embedded&fs=1

Guest 06-27-2009 04:39 PM

Isn't it kind of obvious there are those that are firmly planted
 
in the belief if you are not in agreement with them it just is not worth discussing...barf

It is starting to appear they are totally unfamiliar with anything that has to do with DISCUSSION. The process whereby ALL OPINIONS ARE INVITED....as some would have it ....thou shalt speak only if ye agree with THEM....if not it is not worthy of their participation.

Obviously we are too early in the game and the partisan crib notes have not been distributed.

Since when does everybody have to agree with anybody....if I were of a crude disposition I would refer to the position as lame!:jester:

C'mon....just one of you come back with an answer to the question with chiding the participants....

this isn't 1939 in Europe (yet).

btk

Guest 06-27-2009 06:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211537)
Here we go...straight from the horse's mouth. Your electric bill is going to to up.

http://www.youtube.com/v/BqHL404zhcU..._embedded&fs=1

Ahhhh... perfectly wise thing to do at the bottom of a recession... Who is advising this man?

Guest 06-27-2009 06:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211473)
Just wondering ... Do you guys ever just feel like you're chasing your own tails? I'm just asking...;)


I recall you posting several times a day on subjects like Sarah Palin, the Palin family, John McCain's flying ability...SEVERAL TIMES A DAY with supporting links !!!!

Now, do you agree with the climate bill ?

How do you feel about the bail outs ?

How do you feel about congress not even reading these spending bills ?

How do you feel about the bail out of GM ?

How do you feel about the health care proposals ?

Seems that your inferrence about anyone posting here is pretty shallow unless you have an opinion or do you just agree with everything and all OR must the subject matter be stimulating like the Palin family or McCains flying record ?

Guest 06-27-2009 06:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211553)
Ahhhh... perfectly wise thing to do at the bottom of a recession... Who is advising this man?

"bottom of a recession"????? You are quite the optimist it seems.

Boomer

Guest 06-27-2009 07:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211557)
"bottom of a recession"????? You are quite the optimist it seems.

Boomer

Be careful.... you're watchin too much Glenn Beck...

Guest 06-27-2009 07:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211557)
"bottom of a recession"????? You are quite the optimist it seems.

Boomer

Agreed, Boomer. Maybe my posts don't reflect it..but I am an optimist. I have faced my share of adversity and always could see the silver lining but I have the worst feeling in my gut right now. I have never seen so many proposed "changes" to our way of life in my lifetime. Our buddy above is right...we should concentrate in fighting our way out of this recession instead of spooking our businesses and factories.(and investors).
Are we still taking bets for the stock market Monday?

Guest 06-27-2009 07:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211508)
Hey, feel free to jump in and tell us what you love about OB or what's going on in the government these days you agree with. Don't you think a discussion is more worth while than a once sentence hit and run?

All comments are welcome here but it would be nice if they were participatory rather than a snippet just to get a rise out of people.

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Oh, you mean like your picture of Obama putting up drapes? Yep, that's would definitely be a "snippet just to get a rise out of people." What's that expression? "Practice what you preach."

Guest 06-27-2009 08:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211564)
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Oh, you mean like your picture of Obama putting up drapes? Yep, that's would definitely be a "snippet just to get a rise out of people." What's that expression? "Practice what you preach."

In DK's defense, it was the initial post in his thread. I repeat, he was the OP.(original poster). Anybody can start a new thread with whatever political subject. I found his thread a welcome comic relief.:girlneener:

Guest 06-27-2009 08:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211564)
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Oh, you mean like your picture of Obama putting up drapes? Yep, that's would definitely be a "snippet just to get a rise out of people." What's that expression? "Practice what you preach."


Yup....like I said...funny on so many levels.:a20:

Guest 06-27-2009 09:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211558)
Be careful.... you're watchin too much Glenn Beck...


WHAT!!!! Never ever, ever in my whole Boomer life would I ever, ever watch Glenn Beck!!!!

Oh dear! Oh my! What am I doing in here???

Every time I come into political I get into trouble. A couple of months ago, around the time of the full moon, for some misguided reason, I started that thread that I called "It Was My Party and I'll Cry If I Want To" because I wanted to talk about the moderate viewpoint of what is going on. Wellllll, I got called "mushy middle." Got told that moderates have no "fire in the belly." I think somebody said I was a whiner because I dared to say that I think the healthcare mess needs to be addressed to give people access to affordable group plans. (It was a veiled reference but I think it was aimed at me.) I think somebody even implied that I sounded like, oh no, a liberal. (Yeah, I know one time I said stuff about how I think Rush and Co. are just a bunch of ventriloquists and are destroying the Republican party while they laugh all the way to the bank.) Not looking for sympathy. I know the lay of the land in here. I expected to be accused of all those things. Predictable.

BUT GLENN BECK!!!!!!

You think I watch Glenn Beck!!! Me and Glenn Beck!!!! Noooooooooo!!!!! What have I wrought? Wrote? Written?

My recession not being bottomed yet comment has to do with what I see around me. In real life. Not coming from some big screen.

Glenn Beck!!! Aaaaaaaauuuuuughhhhhh!!!!! Never! Ever!

Boomer (So NOT Bunker Mentality Boomer)

Guest 06-27-2009 09:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 211583)
WHAT!!!! Never ever, ever in my whole Boomer life would I ever, ever watch Glenn Beck!!!!

Oh dear! Oh my! What am I doing in here???

Every time I come into political I get into trouble. A couple of months ago, around the time of the full moon, for some misguided reason, I started that thread that I called "It Was My Party and I'll Cry If I Want To" because I wanted to talk about the moderate viewpoint of what is going on. Wellllll, I got called "mushy middle." Got told that moderates have no "fire in the belly." I think somebody said I was a whiner because I dared to say that I think the healthcare mess needs to be addressed to give people access to affordable group plans. (It was a veiled reference but I think it was aimed at me.) I think somebody even implied that I sounded like, oh no, a liberal. (Yeah, I know one time I said stuff about how I think Rush and Co. are just a bunch of ventriloquists and are destroying the Republican party while they laugh all the way to the bank.) Not looking for sympathy. I know the lay of the land in here. I expected to be accused of all those things. Predictable.

BUT GLENN BECK!!!!!!

You think I watch Glenn Beck!!! Me and Glenn Beck!!!! Noooooooooo!!!!! What have I wrought? Wrote? Written?

My recession not being bottomed yet comment has to do with what I see around me. In real life. Not coming from some big screen.

Glenn Beck!!! Aaaaaaaauuuuuughhhhhh!!!!! Never! Ever!

Boomer (So NOT Bunker Mentality Boomer)

What's going on??? My head was resting on the keyboard when I heard this terrible scream...Oh..Hi Boomer....must be time for bed....

Guest 06-28-2009 12:44 AM

I am not sure we will live long enough to get to the point where
 
the Obama sniping even comes close to Bush bashing.

And as many seem to have already decided....if you can't stand the heat then get outta da kitchen.

Nice array of challenging questions Bucco.

I think I just heard a pin drop!!!:jester:

btk


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