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Guest 02-19-2012 01:59 PM
Believing something is a process, However translating that belief in the verbal, writtne or physical form is an action. The decisive connector is intent.
I may believe that abortion is wrong. I may even march down Main street with a banner proclaiming my disgust for this procedure, or I may become so inflamed and frustrated with the continuation of this procedure that I burn down an abortion clinic.

The first two acts demonstrate that I am exerting my democratic rights while the latter make me a terrorist.

Investigators must rely on certain criteria/signs as a basis for making sense of things. A person hiding his computer screen may just want to protect his password, etc or he/she may be hiding something else. A trained and experienced investigator would never conclude wrongdoing with this one sign.I have investigated people and situations my entire career for one reason or another utilizing various profiles/criteria and you learn to tread carefully and you learn not to prejudge or snap judgment too quickly lest you end up wih egg on your face, rendering yu ineffective and trustworthy in the eyes of your superiors

Guest 02-19-2012 02:37 PM
Here comes that old standby "more government equals less freedom and less government equals more freedom", again.

With the possible exception of "two plus two equals six", nothing could be further from the truth.

Just how free would you be if there was no national defense, local police, currency, educational system, regulations regarding personal safety, food and shelter safety, etc., etc., etc. ?

This romantic fantasy of freedom not collectively and continually worked and paid for is just that. The arch-conservatives, militias, and other right-wingers who whine endlessly about government oppression are simply leeches living off of the government security and protections others respect and work to improve and maintain.

And finally, the most depressing part is that it isn't just "radicals" and "whackos" who believe the above statement. It's also a number of self-styled 'informed' folks who write here, as well as lots of others around the country.

Guest 02-19-2012 02:53 PM
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This romantic fantasy of freedom not collectively and continually worked and paid for is just that. The arch-conservatives, militias, and other right-wingers who whine endlessly about government oppression are simply leeches living off of the government security and protections others respect and work to improve and maintain.
You have GOT to be kidding!!

That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard on here.

And what would you call the people that have built a career living off the money that the government gives out as if it is theirs. Are they leeches.
Do the "right wingers" have less right to that benefit that our country provides, although I don't see it as that, but you do so I ask?

Guest 02-19-2012 03:00 PM
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The problem is that liberals want to help people with no strings attached and do it with other peoples money.
The government helps people to the point they no longer try to help themselves.
If you are a liberal and you want to help people then do it!
You don't need government to help, if that is really what you want to do.
Repubs want to help people to learn how to help themselves, big big difference.
If your really want to help EVERYONE then teach them how to do for themselves not where the mailbox is so they can get their government check.
I also don't believe liberals want to help everyone, just the ones that will vote for them.
:bigbow: :bigbow: :bigbow:

Guest 02-19-2012 03:56 PM
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Hard to argue with most of the 25 on this list...
here's #25-Under Adolf Hitler, paranoia was standard operating procedure.

In Nazi Germany, every citizen was a potential threat and everyone had to be constantly watched for suspicious activity.
Of course the exact same thing is happening in America today. Just about anything you do can get you labeled as a “potential terrorist” by the government.

According to a new DHS report, the following are some of the beliefs and ideologies of potential terrorists….

-”fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”

-”anti-global”

-”suspicious of centralized federal authority”

-”reverent of individual liberty”

-”believe in conspiracy theories”

-”a belief that one’s personal and/or national “way of life” is under attack”

-”a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”

-”impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”

-”insert religion into the political sphere”

-”those who seek to politicize religion”

-”supported political movements for autonomy”

-”anti-abortion”

-”anti-Catholic”

-”anti-nuclear”

And the definition of “suspicious activity” has become so broad in America that it pretty much covers 100% of us. In 2012, the following activities are considered to be “suspicious” by the FBI….

-shielding your computer screen from others

-paying with cash

-acting “nervous”

-using multiple cell phones

-requesting a specific room at a hotel

-traveling with a large amount of luggage

-refusing maid service at a hotel

-staying in your room for too long

-changing your appearance





Prison Planet.com » 25 Signs That America Is Rapidly Becoming More Like Nazi Germany
Let me know when we start building ovens.......

Guest 02-19-2012 04:08 PM
Those who see America as Nazi Germany still have the freedom to MOVE - we don't really want you and your hate.


GM is Back !!!!!
Osama Bin Laden is dead !!!!

Guest 02-19-2012 04:17 PM
Perhaps Katz is on to something when the Republican Legislature and Governor of Virginia can order state-ordered trans-vaginal probes. The same governor that wants to be vice-president.

Guest 02-19-2012 04:45 PM
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Let me know when we start building ovens.......
The point Cologal is to "see the signs". I'm sure there were those in Germany and in greater Europe who scoffed at the notion of what Germany was to become as it carried out it's surveillance and paranoid monitoring of it's citizens.

The point is that those items listed in the OP are what the Obama Administration Homeland Security Dept., under "Big Sister" Janet Napolitano, has decided is maybe indicative of someone who may be guilty of suspicious and possibly subversive actions.

I'm guessing you agree with that assessment?

Guest 02-19-2012 05:03 PM
Well, no one is stopping Katz, Richie, or notlongnow from moving to Austrialia, New Zealand, Ethiopia, or anywhere else they want. If'n you believes the crap you write is true, why do you stay in AMERIKA?

Personally, I know Richie is a guy who just likes to have a good time with his posts, I do not know notlongnow so I cannot say anything. I believe Katz is probably sitting in her trailer in Ohio dashing her posts off and laughing the whole time. Just a speculation but the vision is there.

Guest 02-19-2012 05:19 PM
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Posted by Guest (Post 455831)
Well, no one is stopping Katz, Richie, or notlongnow from moving to Austrialia, New Zealand, Ethiopia, or anywhere else they want. If'n you believes the crap you write is true, why do you stay in AMERIKA?

Personally, I know Richie is a guy who just likes to have a good time with his posts, I do not know notlongnow so I cannot say anything. I believe Katz is probably sitting in her trailer in Ohio dashing her posts off and laughing the whole time. Just a speculation but the vision is there.
Agree they should move. How about Syria where the Government doesn't tell the people what they can do. It just shoots them or blows them up. Might be a happy ending for those who seem to think there is so much wrong with the USA.

Guest 02-19-2012 05:25 PM
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Well, no one is stopping Katz, Richie, or notlongnow from moving to Austrialia, New Zealand, Ethiopia, or anywhere else they want. If'n you believes the crap you write is true, why do you stay in AMERIKA?
First of all I have posted many times on here where I stand politically. So either you have not read my post or don't care what I post. If you have that kind of interest, do a search.

Second, What part of any post I have made would make you think I would want to move from our great country?

I guess someone has to be, I don't know, YOU to be allowed to have an opinion that matters.

Maybe if you don't think we have problems it would be you that needs to live in another country.

So is that your solution to our problems? Identify people who don't believe what you believe and ask them to leave!

Guest 02-19-2012 06:02 PM
The beauty of this country is that we can change it. Obama and the left wing liberal progressives have done alot of changing already. IT'S OUR TURN NOW TO CHANGE IT BACK AGAIN! :boxing2:

Guest 02-19-2012 06:40 PM
Interesting double-standard here.

If a liberal complains about conditions, the conservative says you're free to move where you want - go to Europe or Canada or wherever...

When a conservative complains - it's "why should I move" and "I want to take back America".

Guest 02-19-2012 07:07 PM
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Posted by Guest (Post 455879)
Interesting double-standard here.

If a liberal complains about conditions, the conservative says you're free to move where you want - go to Europe or Canada or wherever...

When a conservative complains - it's "why should I move" and "I want to take back America".
OK, I give up. Nobody is understanding the point of the post. No one has any curiosity about the Homeland Security Guidelines.

It wasn't that long ago the same insipid liberals wanted to impeach Bush for the Patriot Act which is far less invasive than these guidelines.

I really thought you would understand the point of the post DJ. It's really disappointing.

Guest 02-19-2012 07:13 PM
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Posted by Guest (Post 455749)
The problem is that liberals want to help people with no strings attached and do it with other peoples money.
The government helps people to the point they no longer try to help themselves.
If you are a liberal and you want to help people then do it!
You don't need government to help, if that is really what you want to do.
Repubs want to help people to learn how to help themselves, big big difference.
If your really want to help EVERYONE then teach them how to do for themselves not where the mailbox is so they can get their government check.
I also don't believe liberals want to help everyone, just the ones that will vote for them.
What a tired argument. :ohdear:


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