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Abby10 01-09-2018 11:33 AM

To Dirt and Don -

I have to run to work, but wanted to thank you both for your replies. I will respond to them when I return this evening.

Abby10 01-10-2018 08:30 PM

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I understand how life can become difficult with our children. I also understand the rental market as well.

My son went out of state to college, earned an associates degree and decided college was not for him (we were not thrilled), and he returned back home.

That was supposed to be till he got a job and made enough money to get his own place, so we charged him $200 a month to live in our house. A few months later one of our tenants in an apartment moved out and our son expressed a desire to move to that $800 a month apartment, but said he did not think he could afford $800 a month with his other expenses (auto insurance, health insurance, fuel)

We told him that we were not going to take a cut in pay and he would pay us $500 a month and give us 16 hours labor a month (lawn care, snow removal, etc). He agreed and lived there for about 3 years and worked 4 hours a week on the maintenance of properties (most time Saturday mornings).

A few months into the arrangement my mother in law complains to me about charging my son for the rent. She states I don't need the money...I pointed out that it was $500 and 16 hours less a month that he could pi$$ away with his buddies that live with their parents and pay nothing. She asked would he do that? I said anyone, including me, would do that if they could.

I also pointed out that she of all people should not be giving parenting advise (she has a 60 year old son living with her that has not had a job in 30 some years - the original wackadoodle in my life- and he has never paid her a dime for anything...she even pays for his cigarettes!).

My actions might sound mean to some, but it did reinforce responsibility and commitment. Our son bought his first home last spring and he had no concerns with paying a mortgage, I believe he had enough experience with managing his money at that point (and making sure money for the roof over his head was set aside) that he was comfortable with monthly expenses that had to be paid.

I am not sure if any of that has anything to do with your circumstances, I just wanted to share something that worked well for us.



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Sorry for the delay in responding to this and thanks again for taking the time to share your story. It sounds like our methods of parenting were somewhat similar. When my son graduated college and was living with us, my husband took the rent idea a step further. Instead of charging him rent per se, he decided to have him pay for the utilities instead. That way my son had the ability, to some extent, to be in charge of the dollar amount that he had to pay each month by being more cognizant of how much he used. My husband and I were already pretty frugal that way ourselves. It worked out pretty well until one day when he was going out for the evening and my husband and I were watching TV. As he walked by, he turned the lights out on us saying he didn't know why we would need them on just to watch TV. That's when we learned the tables had turned in the house.....lol. Anyway, he has always been pretty careful with his money and was about to buy a place of his own and move out when he got laid off from that first post-grad job. Thankfully, he wasn't strapped to a mortgage because 6 months later he ended up packing his bags and moving 10 hours away.

Right now what we have is a pretty symbiotic relationship - one hand helping the other while we all transition. He certainly could well afford to pay the 30% more to rent locally, but with the possibility that he may be transferred again soon, and my husband and I trying to make an eventual move to TV, we just decided to hang tight for right now and see how everything plays out.

Thanks again for sharing your story. I think it is well worth it not to spoil our kids even if we are able. My son is not overly excited about being back in the same household as us, but understands the practicality of it for now. In the meantime, it makes me happy in a sense that he feels that way because I think it shows we have done our job in raising a kid that values independence.

Abby10 01-10-2018 09:40 PM

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The thing is...it's happening now 30-40 years into a marriage...people in their 60s, 70s getting divorced. You just NEVER know. And what kind of a marriage IS IT...when it becomes a business transaction with lawyers.

It's sad what America has become Abby.

I know as a woman you won't agree...but white men create and run the best societies. We're NOT all the "same", there ARE square pegs and round holes. Round pegs belong in round holes. We should as a society encourage greatness...not treat mediocrity as greatness.

Abby...I know you think I'm a misogynist, you think I'm a racist.

I'm a realist. I've seen this all before. The history books are littered with failed civilizations...and we're making the SAME f@cking mistakes. We're PAYING them to breed us out. An 80% brown/black "America" will NOT be "America". And THAT IS what it WILL be in 30 years.

There is NOT ONE place that went from a white majority to a brown/black majority...and LIVED. When the blacks/browns move in...it ALWAYS turns to sh!t...the black/browns ARE "moving in" and taking over the country. MOST of the children born for the last 8 years are brown/black.

THIS is America's MOST pressing problem and THE most important.

Nothing else matters if America becomes 3rd world full of 3rd worlders.

Look at our cities...80% minority and they SUCK.,,away from the business/tourist centers. Look at the border states...they SUCK now that they're becoming 80% minorities.

You are losing your country...your culture...western civilization. Because the SAME thing is happening in Europe with the Muslim invasion. Paris streets homeless at DuckDuckGo The mostly Muslim homeless in Paris.

Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.

ColdNoMore 01-10-2018 10:54 PM

So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Wiotte 01-10-2018 11:15 PM

33% of Millenials live with their parents
 
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Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.



Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.



Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.



As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in the broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.



I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.



You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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Abby10 01-10-2018 11:58 PM

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So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Lying is so second nature for you.......very unbecoming.

Abby10 01-11-2018 12:05 AM

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You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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NOTHING is unredeemable. Wait a minute, is this a trick? No matter how I say it, it won't come out right......NOTHING is redeemable?

Anyway, is this your way of trying to get rid of me? I'm telling the Kommander........lol

Abby10 01-11-2018 12:15 AM

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You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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Btw, it's because you guys really crack me up sometimes and now I think you're stuck with me and I'm stuck with you. After all, we're all just a bunch of NOTHINGS.

Laughter is the best medicine, you know.

Allegiance 01-11-2018 01:00 AM

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NOTHING is unredeemable. Wait a minute, is this a trick? No matter how I say it, it won't come out right......NOTHING is redeemable?

Anyway, is this your way of trying to get rid of me? I'm telling the Kommander........lol

The commander has been turned into an emotional pinko. I am trying to salvage what I can.

ColdNoMore 01-11-2018 07:41 AM

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Lying is so second nature for you.......very unbecoming.

LOL :1rotfl:

YOU'RE the one that wrote it.

But no wonder you refuse to say what Trump would have to do to lose your support, because just like him...you deny you're OWN exact words. :oops:

You've definitely proving to be part of the..."1/2 basket of deplorable's." :thumbup:



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Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.


Rockyrd 01-11-2018 07:52 AM

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You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

Abby10 01-11-2018 07:56 AM

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The commander has been turned into an emotional pinko. I am trying to salvage what I can.

We all definitely have our roles in NOTHINGVILLE. Somehow I think you would be the last one to fall apart, for sure.

Btw, I will need your help with NOTHING VIOLATIONS tomorrow and Saturday. Work calls for me on those 2 days. I don't want to lose my job doing NOTHING by keeping my eye on NOTHING while I'm there. ;)

Allegiance 01-11-2018 07:59 AM

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We all definitely have our roles in NOTHINGVILLE. Somehow I think you would be the last one to fall apart, for sure.

Btw, I will need your help with NOTHING VIOLATIONS tomorrow and Saturday. Work calls for me on those 2 days. I don't want to lose my job doing NOTHING by keeping my eye on NOTHING while I'm there. ;)

I am on that NOTHING project Friday from 00:00 hours till Saturday 23:59 ma'am.

No violation will go unpunished.

Abby10 01-11-2018 08:00 AM

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LOL :1rotfl:

YOU'RE the one that wrote it.

But no wonder you refuse to say what Trump would have to do to lose your support, because just like him...you deny you're OWN exact words. :oops:

You've definitely proving to be part of the..."1/2 basket of deplorable's." :thumbup:

And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

Rockyrd 01-11-2018 08:07 AM

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News

Not a problem, right

Rockyrd 01-11-2018 08:09 AM

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And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

Yours are also showing.

Hanging with the anti American crowd will change you, along with avoiding topics.

Abby10 01-11-2018 08:34 AM

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So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

I don't think what you say is true. You continue to float the narrative that all Trump supporters are white supremacists and your friend calls us all deplorables. All from the group who insists that people should not be spoken of as groups and that name-calling is inappropriate.

I will agree on one point which is that Don stands out for sure as the one person who appears to be an outward supporter of white supremacy. However, dumb he is not. He does bring facts to his arguments, no matter what the topic. I do not like what he stands for, but I know I can't debate him. Can you? I have seen and experienced that of which he speaks. I call it crowd mentality because I notice that the blacks that do not go along with the crowd think, so to speak, are not like that at all. I love my African American (they don't mind me calling them black either, btw) friends, co-workers, and cousins. We have openly talked about racial issues (which go both ways, by the way) and what it's like to be black vs white, etc. So in one respect, I can agree with some of what Don says about the violence in many majority black neighborhoods (I presented stats too), but I do not judge individuals by the color of their skin, nor by their religion, or anything of the sort. My preference is to seek out what is in their heart and to look at each person as a unique individual. If you knew me, you would see that in the way I live my life and by the diversity of friends that I have.

The shallow-minded on here (hopefully not you) will continue to pick and choose from my narrative and make it their own basket of lies. So be it. I guess we all see what we want to see. Personally, I would rather just get along with everyone because no one is free of faults in their character. To me, life is best when I can bring out the best in another. We all have our redeeming qualities which, when found, can outshine our faults.

Abby10 01-11-2018 08:45 AM

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Yours are also showing.

Hanging with the anti American crowd will change you, along with avoiding topics.

Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......

Abby10 01-11-2018 08:57 AM

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"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News

Not a problem, right

Why do you say that - not a problem? I suspect you say it facetiously, but could you be more specific as to what your motive is for asking in that manner? Are you saying because of where they are from? What difference does that make would be my question. Although it is legal, it is definitely something to look into and possibly change - not for just one group of people but for all. I think the whole idea of immigration to America has been distorted. In talking to friends and former co-workers about this who have emigrated (I call it the hard way), they couldn't agree more.

Allegiance 01-11-2018 08:57 AM

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Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......

I give you credit for attempting logic with hateful illogical people.


It is hopeless. I really think their stupidity has evolved into pure evil.

Taltarzac725 01-11-2018 09:01 AM

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Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.

That is actually a good post with heart. My sister-in-law is Jamaican and was married to my late brother from around 2006 onward. So I am rather familiar with people who are seen as African-American especially by nephew the Jamaican sister-in-law's son.

Don Baldwin 01-11-2018 09:11 AM

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So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

What YOU call racist/bigot...is telling the truth.

WHERE IS the black villages? Black Oxford? A MLK Blvd that ISN'T dangerous? A black school WITHOUT metal detectors and armed security? YOU CLAIM they are equal...put up. SHOW me their greatness.

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So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

Negros ARE a different species. Would you trade your Fifi for a wolf? Blacks are MORE different from EVERY race than dogs to wolves.

I represent f@cking AMERICA...that WHITE SUCCESSFUL place that I call home. WHY do YOU want to destroy "America" and replace it with Mexico II?

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"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News

Not a problem, right

EXACTLY...the propaganda "news" will NEVER tell you that. Just like ALL women living in America...drop a kid or two and you're pretty much set for life.

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I don't think what you say is true. You continue to float the narrative that all Trump supporters are white supremacists and your friend calls us all deplorables. All from the group who insists that people should not be spoken of as groups and that name-calling is inappropriate.

I will agree on one point which is that Don stands out for sure as the one person who appears to be an outward supporter of white supremacy. However, dumb he is not. He does bring facts to his arguments, no matter what the topic. I do not like what he stands for, but I know I can't debate him. Can you? I have seen and experienced that of which he speaks. I call it crowd mentality because I notice that the blacks that do not go along with the crowd think, so to speak, are not like that at all. I love my African American (they don't mind me calling them black either, btw) friends, co-workers, and cousins. We have openly talked about racial issues (which go both ways, by the way) and what it's like to be black vs white, etc. So in one respect, I can agree with some of what Don says about the violence in many majority black neighborhoods (I presented stats too), but I do not judge individuals by the color of their skin, nor by their religion, or anything of the sort. My preference is to seek out what is in their heart and to look at each person as a unique individual. If you knew me, you would see that in the way I live my life and by the diversity of friends that I have.

The shallow-minded on here (hopefully not you) will continue to pick and choose from my narrative and make it their own basket of lies. So be it. I guess we all see what we want to see. Personally, I would rather just get along with everyone because no one is free of faults in their character. To me, life is best when I can bring out the best in another. We all have our redeeming qualities which, when found, can outshine our faults.

Save your breath...you're dealing with retards who are SO stupid...they don't realize just HOW stupid they are.

You skimmed the surface...you've never hung out in the inner city ghettos. You didn't grow up in a black school. You have NO idea how bad it really is.

You "love" the 1%...and face it...they're NOT your "equal" are they? They don't kick your ass in chess or their expansive all encompassing knowledge and wisdom.

You SHOULD judge them...you're a FOOL not to.

But blacks are a different species...look it up! You DON'T treat a wolf like a dog. They're different. Blacks are different too...a different species.

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Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......

Are you going to find a "good" wolf to be your pet? Probably not...maybe 1% would be docile enough to be a pet? Same with negros...they are a violent SPECIES and only 1% are capable of living in a modern society. SAME as wolves and dogs.

I'll leave you with a story...

The scorpion told the frog...please give me a ride across the river...I promise I won't sting you...frog agrees...as they reach shore...the scorpion stings the frog...as he lay dying...he says...you PROMISED you wouldn't sting me...why did you? The scorpion says...I'm a scorpion, I can't help it.

Blacks ARE black...they CAN'T change WHAT they are. A DIFFERENT species. INCAPABLE of living in ANY modern society. They are ALWAYS the lowest of the low in EVERY country. There is not one successful black place. WHY do you keep thinking they're "equal"? LOOK at them...WHY do you insist they are "us"? They are not and pretending they are is destroying this country.

Rockyrd 01-11-2018 09:12 AM

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What YOU call racist/bigot...is telling the truth.

WHERE IS the black villages? Black Oxford? A MLK Blvd that ISN'T dangerous? A black school WITHOUT metal detectors and armed security? YOU CLAIM they are equal...put up. SHOW me their greatness.



Negros ARE a different species. Would you trade your Fifi for a wolf? Blacks are MORE different from EVERY race than dogs to wolves.

I represent f@cking AMERICA...that WHITE SUCCESSFUL place that I call home. WHY do YOU want to destroy "America" and replace it with Mexico II?



EXACTLY...the propaganda "news" will NEVER tell you that. Just like ALL women living in America...drop a kid or two and you're pretty much set for life.



Save your breath...you're dealing with retards who are SO stupid...they don't realize just HOW stupid they are.

You skimmed the surface...you've never hung out in the inner city ghettos. You didn't grow up in a black school. You have NO idea how bad it really is.

You "love" the 1%...and face it...they're NOT your "equal" are they? They don't kick your ass in chess or their expansive all encompassing knowledge and wisdom.

You SHOULD judge them...you're a FOOL not to.

But blacks are a different species...look it up! You DON'T treat a wolf like a dog. They're different. Blacks are different too...a different species.



Are you going to find a "good" wolf to be your pet? Probably not...maybe 1% would be docile enough to be a pet? Same with negros...they are a violent SPECIES and only 1% are capable of living in a modern society. SAME as wolves and dogs.

I'll leave you with a story...

The scorpion told the frog...please give me a ride across the river...I promise I won't sting you...frog agrees...as they reach shore...the scorpion stings the frog...as he lay dying...he says...you PROMISED you wouldn't sting me...why did you? The scorpion says...I'm a scorpion, I can't help it.

Blacks ARE black...they CAN'T change WHAT they are. A DIFFERENT species. INCAPABLE of living in ANY modern society. They are ALWAYS the lowest of the low in EVERY country. There is not one successful black place. WHY do you keep thinking they're "equal"? LOOK at them...WHY do you insist they are "us"? They are not and pretending they are is destroying this country.

From what country are you posting ?

Taltarzac725 01-11-2018 09:15 AM

I see Don Baldwin is still posting his racist filth.

Abby10 01-11-2018 09:15 AM

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That is actually a good post with heart. My sister-in-law is Jamaican and was married to my late brother from around 2006 onward. So I am rather familiar with people who are seen as African-American especially by nephew the Jamaican sister-in-law's son.

Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.

Allegiance 01-11-2018 09:17 AM

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Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.

I know the guy, he is in federal prison.


Jk

Allegiance 01-11-2018 09:18 AM

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I see Don Baldwin is still posting his racist filth.

Buddy, you know this thread is also directed at you, right?

Don Baldwin 01-11-2018 09:21 AM

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Why do you say that - not a problem? I suspect you say it facetiously, but could you be more specific as to what your motive is for asking in that manner? Are you saying because of where they are from? What difference does that make would be my question. Although it is legal, it is definitely something to look into and possibly change - not for just one group of people but for all. I think the whole idea of immigration to America has been distorted. In talking to friends and former co-workers about this who have emigrated (I call it the hard way), they couldn't agree more.

It WAS in the 1960s by LBJ...he CHANGED immigration from 90% white people from Europe...to 90% minorities from 3rd world countries.

Abby10 01-11-2018 09:22 AM

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Buddy, you know this thread is also directed at you, right?

I'm sure glad I gave you a job to do the next couple of days or poor W will be up to his ears trying to keep a lasso on you. :ohdear:

Don Baldwin 01-11-2018 09:23 AM

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Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.

He's the 1%...you "know" the 1%.

The 99% live in the inner cities...they are NOT like the man you know.

Rockyrd 01-11-2018 09:25 AM

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He's the 1%...you "know" the 1%.

The 99% live in the inner cities...they are NOT like the man you know.

PLEASE share from what country you are posting from ?

Taltarzac725 01-11-2018 09:27 AM

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I'm sure glad I gave you a job to do the next couple of days or poor W will be up to his ears trying to keep a lasso on you. :ohdear:

He may be booted off Talk of the Villages before then if there is any justice. Have no idea why the MODERATOR is not acting. It makes no sense why Allegiance is still even allowed to post.

Wiotte 01-11-2018 09:38 AM

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Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.



Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.



Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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Allegiance 01-11-2018 09:39 AM

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He may be booted off Talk of the Villages before then if there is any justice. Have no idea why the MODERATOR is not acting. It makes no sense why Allegiance is still even allowed to post.

Your membership is being evaluated as we speak.

Remember no 224 613 in general forum. Etc etc

Taltarzac725 01-11-2018 09:46 AM

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Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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My nephew was born here, but my sister-in-law was not. Her other son is the guy that yells "Pizza" in the movie August Rush. He gave up acting though. That was the one with the late great Robin Williams. August Rush (2007) - Rotten Tomatoes Keri Russell - Rotten Tomatoes He, the former actor, I believe was also born in the US.

My sister-in-law used to be one of the straps on the US SEAL teams.

ColdNoMore 01-11-2018 10:43 AM

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And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:

Abby10 01-11-2018 11:15 AM

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Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:


I have explained my Trump vote more than once on this forum. He was not my first choice by far, but he did win the Repub nomination, so that is who I voted for. As far as supporting him, I will do so as long as he is President just as I did any other President in office, hoping for the best for the Presidency and our country. If extenuating circumstances dictate, in fact, that he is unfit for office than so be it. I will support that decision as well, for the sake of the country. You see, my allegiance to this county is not beholden to any one person or party. I have voted for Dems in the past as well. Hopefully we all vote for who we think is the best at the time - it is a very subjective thing - that's why I try not to judge anyone for who or how they vote.

I don't believe I said "I can't be a racist....", the fact is I'm NOT a racist. I truly wonder if you have any experience at all with race relations. You seem to be very ignorant of the whole subject.

Now, if you would quit following me around the forum, both here and the regular one, like a stalker I would greatly appreciate it.

Don Baldwin 01-11-2018 11:21 AM

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Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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None of them...generally..can compare/compete with whites...THAT is WHY we HAVE to have quotas.

What f@cking business ISN'T going to hire the BEST they can get?

The NBA and NFL is FULL of blacks...but nowhere else is...why?...because blacks are GOOD at basketball and football...but NOT much else.

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Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:

SHOW me equality...show me. WHERE is it? WHAT statistic puts blacks at the top? Where ARE their successful places? WHERE? Where is their Einstein? Newton? Ford? Gates? Musk? Rockefeller? Edison? Westinghouse? Tesla? HOW many do I have to list? a few million?

Where is YOUR list of GREAT blacks? NOT MLK, he talked and did little else. Not Mandela, he talked and did little else. I didn't list "talkers", I listed doers...people who MADE a LOT of things. People who changed the world...are white...how many blacks can you name?

You KEEP telling me I'm contemptible, I'm wrong...well...put up.

PROVE equality...right now. Give me the PROOF that negros are human. Show me the EVIDENCE of equality.

I keep offering you MY proof but you refuse it. MLK Blvd...ANY city. A 90% blacks school...ANY city. ANY 90% black ghetto. THERE is the 99%...there are the REAL blacks. NOT the 1%. You are seeing/meeting the "black geniuses"...not the 99%. The 1% are OK...the 99% they bring with them isn't worth it.

The planet would be a better place if they were all back in Africa.

Disagree? Why? What is BETTER between Wildwood/Leesburg and the villages because the former have black people living there? Name me a reason those two are better than the villages. IS there ANYTHING better in those two compared to the villages. If you HAD to...where would you send your daughter to live ALONE? There or here?

There's ONE thing in common between those two places and here...they have a good number of black people...we don't.

ColdNoMore 01-11-2018 12:26 PM

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I have explained my Trump vote more than once on this forum. He was not my first choice by far, but he did win the Repub nomination, so that is who I voted for. As far as supporting him, I will do so as long as he is President just as I did any other President in office, hoping for the best for the Presidency and our country. If extenuating circumstances dictate, in fact, that he is unfit for office than so be it. I will support that decision as well, for the sake of the country. You see, my allegiance to this county is not beholden to any one person or party. I have voted for Dems in the past as well. Hopefully we all vote for who we think is the best at the time - it is a very subjective thing - that's why I try not to judge anyone for who or how they vote.

I don't believe I said "I can't be a racist....", the fact is I'm NOT a racist. I truly wonder if you have any experience at all with race relations. You seem to be very ignorant of the whole subject.

You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:




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Now, if you would quit following me around the forum, both here and the regular one, like a stalker I would greatly appreciate it.

Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Don Baldwin 01-11-2018 12:36 PM

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You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:





Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Hey Coldsore...where's MY reply? Where's the answer to MY questions?

Well then Coldsore...WHAT the f@ck are you doing living here in "whiteville"? If black people are so great...WHY don't you live among them? Not THAT great. Not THAT good of friends.

Did you "go native" Coldsore?

I'll ask YOU that Coldsore...WHY are you so afraid of the obvious? Negros are NOT "us"...they're NOTHING like us. They're a different species. Why are you so afraid of the obvious?

Why are you so afraid to go to MLK Blvd to SEE the 99%? Why are you so afraid to go to a black school and SEE the obvious?

You are wrong Coldsore.

Shut me up...show me the black villages. The black TOP anything.


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