Spin it any way you want. That is what the opposition always does - just listen to your Fox Noise station.

Makes no difference to me how you spin it. Enjoy yourselves. This is Florida (kind of cool today) but it is still a beautiful day in The Villages.

But...isn't that exactly what YOU did? :icon_wink:

If we survived 8 years of bush, we can survive 8 years of obama. I hope that does not happen, but who knows. Santorum will get little democratic voters support...romney would get alot. Pick your poison carefully.

Again you go with the Fox stuff...WHO, AT ANYTIME MENTIONED FOX...WHO, AT ANYTIME LINKED TO FOX.

YOU are the only one who mentions it...YOU are the only one mentioning spin.

BK and I simply read your post and gave our opinion and frankly neither of them would prevent acting in a civil way at any time. They were both worded in a civil manner and replied to your post.

You did not even appear to have read them and immediately and continue with the assault of Fox and spin and I dont understand why. Perhaps you should look in the mirror. NOBODY said anything that was not civil and NOBODY BUT YOU mentioned Fox or spin and NOBODY even disputed what you said !

The Gallup Organization has revealed that there are 10 states plus DC which show over a 50% approval rating for President Obama. These include some states with a high electoral vote such as California, New York, and Illinois.

Looks good for November, doesn't it?

As I said in the post where you objected to noise and spin, it is too early to tell. Did you check McCain and his approval rating during the Obama/Clinton debates as I asked you to. He reached his all time high during that time.

This is a PRIMARY season......with an incumbent President. Whatever you read has got to be clothed in that perspective because there is historical facts on approval ratings at this time versus election results.

Again, it may be all Dem...may be all Rep....it is too early to tell and the polls today on the GENERAL election are for amusement only.

and looking at polls is like looking at the world through a straw.

A poll could be taken regarding what one saw when looking at the side of an elephant through a straw. The poll would report the world appears to be totally grey to the majority of those who took the poll.

Political, primary polls are about as meaningful. The results of polls usually don't tell how many participated and especially out of the possible statistical population involved. That would blunt the media's ability to make banquets out of ham sandwiches!!:)

btk

The Gallup organization has been around for many years and do very scientific polls. If it were a poll done by another organization such as FOX, I might be seeing it as you do, but I trust Gallup.

Again with the FOX...WOW..you dont give up...you are bound and determined to give a "shot" with every post...can you not just discuss politics. NOBODY questioned Gallup...NOBODY questioned YOU....everyone has different views and they do it without the little "shots" like your constant and ongoing fascination with Fox.

Even I have to say that FOX has some of the best looking lady commentators on it.

Did You mean superficially good looking. I would prefer to get my news from brains.

Amazing when some posters have no substance, they turn to Fox News. I suppose that is what keeps them (Fox) #1 in the world as far as viewers so I suppose they dont care !!

Buggy, the quotes from my post are from your Gallop poll link. Can't make it any clearer than that. It is from your link. I didn't have to do anything but read beyond the headline. It was the information you provided from Gallop. Very, very reputable. I agree.

November looks as though it will have good results, doesn't it?

LOL, yeah, whatever Buggy. November is going to be good, God willing.

Immigration
 

Richie:

You showed the article from the Washington Post, but the Daily Sun's last paragraph stated that the program was funded by I.C.E. - Immigration / Customs. I trust these people and I know for a fact that they are on OUR side, no matter what is asked of them.

Seriously?....you trust you government no matter what, just with blind faith?

Well said Richie. For anyone that did not know you, you would get an applause for your response alone. Well done. Maybe MrMark has read some of your posts to make the determination. I am only guessing so no offense meant.

Would that be like trusting your priest just with blind faith.

No.

I would like to make on point on this subject.

So many folks on here simply disregard what is actually said or linked to with validity if it does not fit with what they think is correct.

Such a waste of learning....

I have my own views but one of the great assets of this site is that folks with different viewpoints post on here "sometimes" and make good points and supply that credible source (link).

You do yourself a disservice by not reading those links...I have learned so much and actually had my viewpoint changed on a number of issues by reading the links provided or allowing them to lead me to other sites to read.

Simply making a snide or cute comment without even considering what is said is just a waste of time. It does not matter if what is said is totally 180 degrees from what you think...if it is presented with links and some facts, investigate. You will either confirm what you feel and then can respond OR you may actually learn something.

I agree and would like to add one thing. I pray that none of us make any final political or spiritual decision from what we read on this forum.

The Villager II

Very well said Bucco. I, also, have learned so much from reading others posts and the links that they have provided.

However:

I have also learned from you and some other posters how to make snide little remarks and thinly veiled (ha) insults, if I choose to do so.

I choose not to...a mind (and also time) is a terrible thing to waste.

And God loves you for it and I pray for forgiveness for my shortcomings. Yes I know I do it and mainly when one of my friends on here gives me a few pokes with his professional level sarcasm. If you get to know the real Villager II, you will know I am sorry the next morning for every time I lose my control and try each day to do better.

C'mon folks, let's stick to discussing substantive topics and not hurling direct or veiled personal insults at each other. I'm going to attempt to prune, graft, and remove orphans from this thread to give it one more chance before we just close it altogether.

Gov't
 

Certainly not with 'blind faith', but I trust the ICE people.

OK with me if you do.