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Old 01-08-2017, 06:13 PM
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Alright, you're going to have to help me. I've looked through this thread twice and I fail to see any link or reference to a "Google Search" to which you reference that buries the a$$ of me or anyone else who posits the initial point, which was:

The GOP is poised to repeal the ACA without any clear replacement and that is bad policy.

Perhaps I am mistaken, and if so you might be so kind as to direct me to that Google Search or post a link to it once again. And if I'm wrong then I apologize, but I feel compelled to state that even if my a$$ is buried, that is much preferable to showing my a$$ with unsubstantiated arguments.

The link to the article you posted, which made the point that "spending on health care per capita in the U.S. is greater than all other OECD countries" was good and provided me some insight. In fact I'll share some additional quotes from that same article as well:


"There were 32 million uninsured Americans in 2014, nine million fewer than the year prior. Experts attribute this sharp decline in the uninsured to the full implementation of the ACA in 2014. Of American adults who had health insurance in 2014, 73 percent had one or more full-time workers in the family and 12 percent had one or more part-time workers in the family. Just 49 percent of American adults reported getting health insurance from an employer in 2014.

Coverage by employer-provided insurance varies considerably by wage level. Firms with higher proportions of low-wage workers are less likely to provide access to health insurance than those with low-proportions of low-wage workers.

In 2014, 11.2 percent of full-time workers were without health insurance. However, the percentage of part-time workers without insurance was 17.7 percent, a significant decrease from 24 percent in 2013, thanks in part to the Affordable Care Act. The uninsured rate among those who had not worked at least one week also decreased from 22.2 percent in 2013 to 17.3 percent in 2014.

Smaller firms are significantly less likely to provide health benefits to full or part-time workers. Among all small firms (3-199 workers) in 2015, only 56 percent offered health coverage, compared to 98 percent of large firms.

After the Affordable Care Act allowed for many young adults (19-25) to remain on their parents’ health plans, there was a statistically significant increase in the percentage of insured young people from 68.3 percent in 2009[31] to 82.9 percent in 2014. Over the same period, the percentage of young people aged 26-34 with insurance increased from 70.9 percent to 81.8 percent.

Minorities and children are disproportionately uninsured. In 2014, 7.6 percent of non-Hispanic Whites were uninsured, 11.8 percent of Blacks were uninsured, 9.3 percent of Asians, and 19.9 percent of people of Hispanic origin were uninsured. The Kaiser Family Foundation has found that about 80 percent of the uninsured are U.S. citizens. Among children, six percent were uninsured in 2014. These children are 10 times more likely than insured children to have unmet medical needs and are five times as likely as an insured child to go more than two years without seeing a doctor.

Women in the individual market often faced higher premiums than men for the same coverage. Beginning in 2014, the Affordable Care Act banned this practice, as well as denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

In 2014, 19.3 percent of the population living below 100 percent of the poverty line ($23,550 a year for a family of four) was uninsured. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 90 percent of the uninsured have family incomes within 400 percent of the federal poverty level. This makes them eligible for either subsidized coverage through tax credits or expanded Medicaid eligibility under the Affordable Care Act’s state health exchanges."
The post in question might be in another thread...you did not respond to it, not worth the effort to look for it.

Thanks for all that meaningless information that you dragged out of the document I linked. If I ever need someone to pre read the newspaper for me and decide what I need to focus on you will be at the top of my thoughts.

You got so excited with the information, you never responded to my questions or comments...

To summarize all the data you have compiled:

There were more people that got healthcare because many no longer had the choice to not have it. The poor already had health care thru Medicaid.

Your data does not tell me how to get my health care back to an affordable rate. In fact it infers that you and the rest of the Dems are on a crusade to give people too lazy to work, or too stupid to find a job, heath care. All the while the piece of $hit is smoking cigarettes, drinking liquor, doing drugs, and over eating. They don't care about themselves, and I don't care enough about those people to pay for their health care.

If you feel so sorry for them, and want to pay for their health care, do it with your own money!

Go ahead impress us with all the charitable donations you have given to people that have no health care...
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:39 AM
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It is sort of like:someone on here posted a google search that buried your a$$ (or at least countered the point you were trying to make) and you never responded...

Your wish for medical care not to be run as a business for profit...will be nearly impossible, The hospitals, insurance companies, and medical professionals (nurses, techs, doctors) all want to make good money for their services. Remember as a kid how the parents wanted their kids to grow up to be rich doctors? Do you feel they should arbitrarily take a cut in pay? Maybe they all have to give up their lake homes, vacation condos, and drive $hitty cars, so people can have cheaper health care??

"spending on health care per capita in the U.S. is greater than all other OECD countries"

I wish they would have left it as it was prior to Obammacare, as it was cheaper. In 2013, my wife and I were age 50 and our healthcare per month was $750 with a $5500 deductible, today it is $1100 a month with the same deductible. Fortunately my wife and I are healthy, non obese, never smoked, no illness, no prescriptions...We have been to the doctor for preventive measures such as wellness check ups, detection blood tests (PSA), colonoscopy, ETC. I feel we are the ideal customer for the insurance company, and we are paying $13,200 a year (plus our $5500 deductible = $18,200) - That is a lot of money!

Does anyone remember any insurance companies bad mouthing Obammacare back in 2012-2013?? Me either!!

I wonder if any insurance companies donated to Obamma's election coffer, as he was guaranteeing them customers...

I hope Trump repeals Obammacare and gets the hell out of the medical care business.

The U.S. Health Care System: An International Perspective - DPEAFLCIO
You have an excellent point regarding insurance companies.

Remember how AARP endorsed ObieCare? I do and that caused a lot of people to think twice before joining them. I refused based solely on their getting involved in liberal politics. AARP knew what Obiecare would do to boost their health insurance supplement plans.
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:40 AM
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As was stated in the OP, the use of name calling in an argument is simply a pathetic and unintelligent way to compensate for lack of facts and rationale thought to support an argument. It says a lot about the poster and the poster's opinion when it is unsupported by documented reasons. Do we really have to be mean spirited simply because we disagree?

Now, to the question posed by the thread, I don't want anyone in America, a land of plenty, to have their life devastated physically or financially because they got sick or hurt. I want healthcare for everyone to be a right that we guarantee as a nation, and not a business that we manipulate for a profit. Is there a reason that the United States is ranked 43rd in the world in life expectancy at birth, behind so many countries that guarantee universal healthcare for it's citizens?

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Spoken by a true socialist. Putin would be so proud of you.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:35 AM
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Repeal Obamacare. We were better off without it.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:59 AM
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Spoken by a true socialist. Putin would be so proud of you.
I guess that means Trump would be proud of me as well since he admires Vladimir so much!
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Old 01-09-2017, 09:20 AM
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Repeal Obamacare. We were better off without it.
Let's see MD, you've had knee and shoulder operations and have a hearing disability. And you want to deny people their access to health care? Tsk Tsk.


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Old 01-09-2017, 03:50 PM
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Let's see MD, you've had knee and shoulder operations and have a hearing disability. And you want to deny people their access to health care? Tsk Tsk.


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??????????? You must be confused again.

But, I have never said anything about denying anyone heath care. Obamacare caused millions to lose their insurance and then it was mandated under penalty of a fine that they had to purchase insurance.
 

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