This is an excellent piece on the Alinsky affect on our President. I am sure that those who blindly voted for him because of his pretty prose without checking into the man and his background will probably not take the time, but you should !

You WILL hear much more over the next years about this connection and at some time it will become difficult to ignore !

This is the last sentence of the article......

"It’s not about the policies or the politics, and it’s certainly not about the principles. It’s about power, and it has been for a long time."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...GYyYTE=&w=MA==

Originally Posted by Bucco

This is an excellent piece on the Alinsky affect on our President. I am sure that those who blindly voted for him because of his pretty prose without checking into the man and his background will probably not take the time, but you should !

You WILL hear much more over the next years about this connection and at some time it will become difficult to ignore !

This is the last sentence of the article......

"It’s not about the policies or the politics, and it’s certainly not about the principles. It’s about power, and it has been for a long time."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...GYyYTE=&w=MA==

Trust me....I was NOT an Obama fan....but a really serious Hillary girl. I certainly did not blindly vote for him. What I should have voted for Sarah Pallin?.... She stands for just about everything I am against. So some times it just come down to the lesser of not my choices.

When Obama dissolves the Congress and runs up the socialist flag then I will believe it. That will probably happen right after Sean Hannitity finally get waterboarded for charity...as he said he would some time ago.

Originally Posted by cologal

Trust me....I was NOT an Obama fan....but a really serious Hillary girl. I certainly did not blindly vote for him. What I should have voted for Sarah Pallin?.... She stands for just about everything I am against. So some times it just come down to the lesser of not my choices.

When Obama dissolves the Congress and runs up the socialist flag then I will believe it. That will probably happen right after Sean Hannitity finally get waterboarded for charity...as he said he would some time ago.

Your post is very confusing. Not sure what you are saying in regard to Hannity/waterboarding etc.

Not sure you read the piece...you allude to the "socialist flag", etc but totallymiss the point, and

If you didnt look over the so called "stimulus" bill which was cram packed and totally full of social programs, you sure missed something and of course the ownership of corporations and banks now....the small print in the stimulus bill that makes states accountable for insuring unemployment is kept at a certain level at THEIR expense....oh, and did you read how congress with no objection from the WH is insuring that ACORN can get millions (Can you actually defend that piece of legislation)....and of course ACORN is the one the White House wants to run our census CONTROLLED of course by the White House.

They criticize Bush, and there is much there, but then turn around and assume the same practices....it is all about Power...has nothing to do with the transparency stuff.

Oh, and you remark about Palin...I didnt know she ran for President. However, if McCain had won, do you think she could do worse than what VP Biden has done so far...he has made more public mistakes in a short time than most do in a complete term ! Glad you are so happy with him

Well, you can poke your fun all you want but this is even faster than I expected.

Originally Posted by cologal

Trust me....I was NOT an Obama fan....but a really serious Hillary girl. I certainly did not blindly vote for him. What I should have voted for Sarah Pallin?.... She stands for just about everything I am against. So some times it just come down to the lesser of not my choices.

When Obama dissolves the Congress and runs up the socialist flag then I will believe it. That will probably happen right after Sean Hannitity finally get waterboarded for charity...as he said he would some time ago.

The candidate was McCain not Palin.

When you say that Sarah Palin "stands for just about everything I am against" it says a lot about you.

By your guidelines, by the time you believe what is said about Obama, it will be too late. I hope that you are paying attention. You may have to change your mind, quickly.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

Originally Posted by Bucco

Your post is very confusing. Not sure what you are saying in regard to Hannity/waterboarding etc.

Not sure you read the piece...you allude to the "socialist flag", etc but totallymiss the point, and

If you didn't look over the so called "stimulus" bill which was cram packed and totally full of social programs, you sure missed something and of course the ownership of corporations and banks now....the small print in the stimulus bill that makes states accountable for insuring unemployment is kept at a certain level at THEIR expense....oh, and did you read how congress with no objection from the WH is insuring that ACORN can get millions (Can you actually defend that piece of legislation)....and of course ACORN is the one the White House wants to run our census CONTROLLED of course by the White House.

They criticize Bush, and there is much there, but then turn around and assume the same practices....it is all about Power...has nothing to do with the transparency stuff.

Oh, and you remark about Palin...I didn't know she ran for President. However, if McCain had won, do you think she could do worse than what VP Biden has done so far...he has made more public mistakes in a short time than most do in a complete term ! Glad you are so happy with him

Well, you can poke your fun all you want but this is even faster than I expected.

I don't believe that Obama is turning this country into a socialist state anymore than I believe that Sean Hannity will allow himself to be waterboarded even though he said he would. That takes care of that.

The stimulus bill is, unfortunately, a necessary evil caused by overspending for the past 8 years. These conservative lawmakers were larger spenders than the Dems.

McCain was to old for the office and Palin one heartbeat away. I usually don't care about the Veep. Biden wasn't the one I wanted...remember I am a Hillary girl. But Biden will NEVER be as bad as that Chicken Hawk Cheney.

Somebody has to prove to me that ACORN is getting millions from the stimulus package. For what? Remember that Texas is asking for 11 million dollars to rebuild the Governors mansion. Could either of these be a good thing?

Oh I am NOT happy with him...on many counts.

Don't Ask Don't Tell
Perhaps 35,000 troops in Iraq after 2011.

To name 2....but I would be far more upset with McCain.

I will look into the ACORN thing(s).....I really wouldn't trust one of the conservative sources..sorry about that.

to differentiate as to the political leanings or beliefs of a source. As in all good data and information accumulation anything biased is eliminated.

Unfortunately the resource of most Americans these days is their political bent (that's fine as long they know it is biased) and the media which is not only biased, but frought with mis-information. As told to me by the publisher of a very noted newspaper and television stations...they are obligated to be first and if it is accurate or true....all the better. And of course no one accepts information from politians or politico inspired.

So in doing TRUE research be prepared to be enlightened and possibly disappointed.

BTK

COLOGAL..."The stimulus bill is, unfortunately, a necessary evil caused by overspending for the past 8 years. These conservative lawmakers were larger spenders than the Dems."
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The stimulus bill was close to 50% nothing but social programs if you would take the time to read it, which by the way, NONE of your folks in congress did (READ THE BILL). Yes, I used "your" folks as you seem to like that separation...always using "one of yours" etc.

Originally Posted by cologal

I don't believe that Obama is turning this country into a socialist state anymore than I believe that Sean Hannity will allow himself to be waterboarded even though he said he would. That takes care of that.

The stimulus bill is, unfortunately, a necessary evil caused by overspending for the past 8 years. These conservative lawmakers were larger spenders than the Dems.

McCain was to old for the office and Palin one heartbeat away. I usually don't care about the Veep. Biden wasn't the one I wanted...remember I am a Hillary girl. But Biden will NEVER be as bad as that Chicken Hawk Cheney.

Somebody has to prove to me that ACORN is getting millions from the stimulus package. For what? Remember that Texas is asking for 11 million dollars to rebuild the Governors mansion. Could either of these be a good thing?

Oh I am NOT happy with him...on many counts.

Don't Ask Don't Tell
Perhaps 35,000 troops in Iraq after 2011.

To name 2....but I would be far more upset with McCain.

I will look into the ACORN thing(s).....I really wouldn't trust one of the conservative sources..sorry about that.

The only suggestion I can make to you is to READ.....READ from any source, but try to balance it, anything you can about ACORN and Alinsky and as they relate to our President ! AND

Ask once again...did you read the article in the link I provided ? You never once alluded to it !

Originally Posted by billethkid

to differentiate as to the political leanings or beliefs of a source. As in all good data and information accumulation anything biased is eliminated.

Unfortunately the resource of most Americans these days is their political bent (that's fine as long they know it is biased) and the media which is not only biased, but frought with mis-information. As told to me by the publisher of a very noted newspaper and television stations...they are obligated to be first and if it is accurate or true....all the better. And of course no one accepts information from politians or politico inspired.

So in doing TRUE research be prepared to be enlightened and possibly disappointed.

BTK

In just a short search the ACORN thing only seems to be reported by websites with a conservative bent which then point to FOX News.

Originally Posted by Bucco

COLOGAL..."The stimulus bill is, unfortunately, a necessary evil caused by overspending for the past 8 years. These conservative lawmakers were larger spenders than the Dems."
__________________________________________________ ___________--

The stimulus bill was close to 50% nothing but social programs if you would take the time to read it, which by the way, NONE of your folks in congress did (READ THE BILL). Yes, I used "your" folks as you seem to like that separation...always using "one of yours" etc.

Bucco.... there was no evil intent in that statement. If one of my folks had undergone waterboarding and declared it torture I suspect your response would have gone something like this:

He/She is just a liberal who couldn't take it.

I don't like the stimulus package either but believe it had to be done.

Originally Posted by cologal

In just a short search the ACORN thing only seems to be reported by websites with a conservative bent which then point to FOX News.

Did you read their history ?

Are you aware of and did you read the indictments against them in many states ?

Are you aware of the NYTIMES holding back info during the election about illegal funding ?

THEN,,,,


Read about their involvement in the mortgage crisis and the pressure they put on banks, etc to make those wonderful loans !

THEN...


Read about their relationship with congress and Barney Franks latest efforts to open the doors for money !

THEN...

Read about the banks who give them money; banks that we bailed out !

Originally Posted by Bucco

The only suggestion I can make to you is to READ.....READ from any source, but try to balance it, anything you can about ACORN and Alinsky and as they relate to our President ! AND

Ask once again...did you read the article in the link I provided ? You never once alluded to it !

I believe...I could probably find, I asked you if you would read a link to a Huffington Post. Your response was clearly in the negative.

Now that I have read your link I expect you to give the same respect to mine.

THEN...

Please read the entire article I posted on Alinsky !!

Keep reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/op...ubed.html?_r=1