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mellincf 10-14-2017 08:47 PM

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Patriotism is the respect and honor for our country we were brought up with. It is ingrained in many of our hearts. I do not understand how anyone can malign this sincere and deep feeling that we have for this land.

My grandparents on my fathers side came from Germany and my grandparents on my mothers side were here for many generations. They both stood when the flag passed by and put their hands over their hearts. We saw honor for our country in school and in church and at scouts. Many of our neighbors and family members served in the military. Some died for this phony love that we cherish.

Everyone that I knew growing up felt the same, and those that I still know continue to feel

Patriotism.

Genuine.

Patriotism.

Grace G.

NOBODY is saying standing up for the flag and the National Anthem is not patriotic. What we ARE saying, but so many refuse to follow the logic, is standing up for the Constitution is ALSO patriotic. And the First Amendment gives those men the right and duty to protest mistreatment of fellow Americans. That is the heart of the protest, but so many Fox viewers (and that's where it's coming from) refuse to see the deeper implications. For Trump to suggest that someone be fired for exercising their right to freedom of expression, to be fired for exercising the First Amendment to the Constitution, is a threat to the very foundation of our country. Trump's rants about "fake news" is ALSO a threat to the First Amendment. Can you not at least acknowledge the depth of the disagreement? Or are you just going to say these players are "disrespecting" the flag without considering the REASON they are kneeling in protest? Indiana GOP Lawmaker Drafts Bill Requiring Journalists To Be Licensed By Police - The Intellectualist

mellincf 10-14-2017 08:49 PM

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Do you believe the African American members of post #347 were prevented from voting? Or, maybe they are going to watch the NFL games on the sly?

Come on "Hot Mellin on the tennis court" show us some of your wit...


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You're the one who started the "hot" discussion, and I notice you are very, very quiet about who would win a tennis match.

larbud 10-14-2017 08:50 PM

Rosa was a nidger in an era of Respectful Black folks.....

dirtbanker 10-14-2017 08:52 PM

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You're the one who started the "hot" discussion, and I notice you are very, very quiet about who would win a tennis match.

I said I don't play tennis...

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Taltarzac725 10-14-2017 08:52 PM

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Thank you. These pseudo patriotic folks with their knee-jerk reactions are not looking at the deeper insult to our Constitution. In a uniquely American appeal to look at the racist brutality displayed against African American men by the police, the players are using the only platform available to them in a quiet and respectful way. That is their right under the First Amendment. To punish them for it, with lies about "disrespect for the military", is shortsighted at best and dangerous at worst.

Well stated. But this is Donald John Trump's USA where appeals to emotion reign. Demagoguery 101.

Taltarzac725 10-14-2017 08:54 PM

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Thinking that the NFL players are disrespecting the flag is like thinking Rosa Parks was boycotting public transportation....

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That is well said.

graciegirl 10-14-2017 08:56 PM

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Patriotism is the respect and honor for our country we were brought up with. It is ingrained in many of our hearts. I do not understand how anyone can malign this sincere and deep feeling that we have for this land.

My grandparents on my fathers side came from Germany and my grandparents on my mothers side were here for many generations. They both stood when the flag passed by and put their hands over their hearts. We saw honor for our country in school and in church and at scouts. Many of our neighbors and family members served in the military. Some died for this phony love that we cherish.

Everyone that I knew growing up felt the same, and those that I still know continue to feel

Patriotism.

Genuine.

Patriotism.

Grace G.

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ColdNoMore 10-14-2017 09:05 PM

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NOBODY is saying standing up for the flag and the National Anthem is not patriotic. What we ARE saying, but so many refuse to follow the logic, is standing up for the Constitution is ALSO patriotic. And the First Amendment gives those men the right and duty to protest mistreatment of fellow Americans. That is the heart of the protest, but so many Fox viewers (and that's where it's coming from) refuse to see the deeper implications. For Trump to suggest that someone be fired for exercising their right to freedom of expression, to be fired for exercising the First Amendment to the Constitution, is a threat to the very foundation of our country. Trump's rants about "fake news" is ALSO a threat to the First Amendment. Can you not at least acknowledge the depth of the disagreement? Or are you just going to say these players are "disrespecting" the flag without considering the REASON they are kneeling in protest? Indiana GOP Lawmaker Drafts Bill Requiring Journalists To Be Licensed By Police - The Intellectualist

The absolute first thing any would-be dictator, tyrant or despot tries to do...is to silence any criticism of their actions.

I realize that Orange Julius loves the uneducated, but even you blind cultists should be taking a pause...and thinking exactly what Trump is advocating. :oops:

Or, I could be wrong, if you Trump Cultists wouldn't have had a problem if Obama had suggested the same thing toward that entertainment channel who constantly lied about him...Faux News.

Wiotte 10-14-2017 10:08 PM

Ok, how many of you posters on here belong to the American Legion.


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Wiotte 10-14-2017 10:18 PM

My father was Commander of post #854. My mother, a veteran of WWII was Vice Commander of post #854. I was Commander of the SAL at the age of 16 and after my tour became a full member of post # 854. The American Legion was my parents life as well as mine growing up. I know the mindset of the members. Both my mother and my father, both WWII veterans believed this among all things when it comes to patriotism. “ I may not agree with what you say but we will fight to the death for your right to say it”.
That pretty much sums it up. The NFL players are speaking their mind in a very respectful way and they have the constitution right to say it and we as Americans should NOT disrespect their right to express their feelings in this matter. As far as I’m concerned, the local post needs to grow up, read the constitution and abide by it. Just as they did when they took their oath to protect and defend the United States of America.


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Wiotte 10-14-2017 10:21 PM

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Patriotism is the respect and honor for our country we were brought up with. It is ingrained in many of our hearts. I do not understand how anyone can malign this sincere and deep feeling that we have for this land.

My grandparents on my fathers side came from Germany and my grandparents on my mothers side were here for many generations. They both stood when the flag passed by and put their hands over their hearts. We saw honor for our country in school and in church and at scouts. Many of our neighbors and family members served in the military. Some died for this phony love that we cherish.

Everyone that I knew growing up felt the same, and those that I still know continue to feel

Patriotism.

Genuine.

Patriotism.

Grace G.



You haven’t a clue. You are in fact nothing more than a civilian.


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Don Baldwin 10-14-2017 10:28 PM

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I absolutely respect those groups rights to do whatever they want...it is their right.

An expression I have always believed.....said by many over the years in different ways.

When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

My addition to that would be accompanied by loss of discussion and a complete loss of respect for honesty and character.

And you won't even feel it. Suddenly you will have lost all the personal freedoms you thought could never be lost.

Fascism comes with a pussy. The liberal women/minorities are the fascists. THEY want all the rules and regulations...they want a lot of laws.

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Thank you. These pseudo patriotic folks with their knee-jerk reactions are not looking at the deeper insult to our Constitution. In a uniquely American appeal to look at the racist brutality displayed against African American men by the police, the players are using the only platform available to them in a quiet and respectful way. That is their right under the First Amendment. To punish them for it, with lies about "disrespect for the military", is shortsighted at best and dangerous at worst.

Bullsh!t...blacks are at least 10X more violent than whites. BOTH sexes! Look at the violence in black neighborhoods...the killings. It makes whites look like choir boys.

And the owners have the right to get rid of their ass.

DANGEROUS??? Why? BECAUSE they ARE 10X more violent you dumb f@ck.


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NOBODY is saying standing up for the flag and the National Anthem is not patriotic. What we ARE saying, but so many refuse to follow the logic, is standing up for the Constitution is ALSO patriotic. And the First Amendment gives those men the right and duty to protest mistreatment of fellow Americans. That is the heart of the protest, but so many Fox viewers (and that's where it's coming from) refuse to see the deeper implications. For Trump to suggest that someone be fired for exercising their right to freedom of expression, to be fired for exercising the First Amendment to the Constitution, is a threat to the very foundation of our country. Trump's rants about "fake news" is ALSO a threat to the First Amendment. Can you not at least acknowledge the depth of the disagreement? Or are you just going to say these players are "disrespecting" the flag without considering the REASON they are kneeling in protest? Indiana GOP Lawmaker Drafts Bill Requiring Journalists To Be Licensed By Police - The Intellectualist

WHAT mistreatment? They DESERVE the treatment they get. You've obviously NEVER been to MLK Blvd in a major city. It's hell on earth. It's a "no go" zone for even the police. WHY do you think they use SWAT teams EVERY time they go into those black neighborhoods?

You idiot...if I own a business...and you start doing things I don't like...you're gone. You have "free speech" on YOUR dime...not mine. When you put on that uniform...you work for me! And what I say goes.

The reason they protest is because they think they deserve special treatment because their ancestors were slaves. Well...so were mine.

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Ok, how many of you posters on here belong to the American Legion.


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The MORE important question is...how many QUALIFY to join...NONE of the women here I bet. Women LOVE to talk the talk...but very few walk the walk.

Wiotte 10-14-2017 10:36 PM

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Fascism comes with a pussy. The liberal women/minorities are the fascists. THEY want all the rules and regulations...they want a lot of laws.



Bullsh!t...blacks are at least 10X more violent than whites. BOTH sexes! Look at the violence in black neighborhoods...the killings. It makes whites look like choir boys.

And the owners have the right to get rid of their ass.

DANGEROUS??? Why? BECAUSE they ARE 10X more violent you dumb f@ck.




WHAT mistreatment? They DESERVE the treatment they get. You've obviously NEVER been to MLK Blvd in a major city. It's hell on earth. It's a "no go" zone for even the police. WHY do you think they use SWAT teams EVERY time they go into those black neighborhoods?

You idiot...if I own a business...and you start doing things I don't like...you're gone. You have "free speech" on YOUR dime...not mine. When you put on that uniform...you work for me! And what I say goes.

The reason they protest is because they think they deserve special treatment because their ancestors were slaves. Well...so were mine.



The MORE important question is...how many QUALIFY to join...NONE of the women here I bet. Women LOVE to talk the talk...but very few walk the walk.



Ok Don, when it comes to MEN dying for their country do not, I mean do not speak badly of the black sailors and soldiers that fought and died for your right to spew your bs hatred all over this forum. I will find you. Trust me, I will find you.


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Don Baldwin 10-14-2017 10:50 PM

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Ok Don, when it comes to MEN dying for their country do not, I mean do not speak badly of the black sailors and soldiers that fought and died for your right to spew your bs hatred all over this forum. I will find you. Trust me, I will find you.


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They did it for the money of because they HAD to.

Blacks...as a people...have NO love for "America".

Wiotte 10-14-2017 10:53 PM

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They did it for the money of because they HAD to.



Blacks...as a people...have NO love for "America".



Have you served ? In the armed forces that is.


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