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Guest 04-01-2012 02:38 PM

Osama: If your not a Muslim you die

Sanitarium: If your not a Christian you Burn in Hell.

Yes, Osama was more violent, but no more fanatical than rick

I see very little difference between these two fanatics.

That said, I just hope enough folks read about the Madman so not to vote for him.

Keep poking at me and I will give you what you ask for. :boxing2:

Guest 04-01-2012 02:56 PM

There are so many sides to this over population scenario. For example it is said "statistically" that because of the lack of reproduction in less than 200 years both Italians and Irish will no longer exist. The Japanese also have the same problems as America but unlike Japan America has a vast flow of immigrants. So essentially its not a population problem entirely but rather the proper geographical and soci-economic application of birth control.

Do you believe that many of those reproducing rapidly as you indicate know, care or realize the consequences of their acts? I don't and its why I believe we should begin with educating young people about their responsibilities and the benfits of celibacy. I am not adverse to birth control devices but you first have to educate people about the former.

But we may never get back to that point as young people look all around them and society ( movies, books, teachers, peers, etc) keep telling them gratitutious sex is a good thing.

I recognize this is somewhat simplistic and the applications more complex but we need to return to the moral aspects of pre-martial sex and reinforce good behavior with rewards; otherwise our astronmical teen births will continue.

Again Santorum has some solid points.....I just saying......

Guest 04-01-2012 03:05 PM

Overpopulation is not a problem! It is underpopulation that is causing peoples to become extinct. It is underpopulation that has wrecked old age pension plans throughout the Western World.

I am voting for Santorum on Tuesday. We do not need Barack Oromney.

Guest 04-01-2012 03:43 PM

World population has reached 7 billion on October 31, 2011

Guest 04-01-2012 04:17 PM

If you do your homework, you will find that significant and irreversible population declines are underway in all of Europe, Japan, China and the rest of the developed world. The US is the exception and that is because of illegal immigration.

Guest 04-01-2012 04:20 PM

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If you do your homework, you will find that significant and irreversible population declines are underway in all of Europe, Japan, China and the rest of the developed world. The US is the exception and that is because of illegal immigration.

One more reason to supply birth control to the other countries.

Guest 04-01-2012 06:21 PM

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Now, Santorum could have been a little more diplomatic in the way he expressed himself, but to degrade him as some sort of monster is now about the stupidest thing I've read on this forum.

Rick Santorum | Church And State | JFK | The Daily Caller

Except that he LIED about the tone of JFK's message. Santorum said he hated that only people of no faith were 'allowed in the public square' when there was no such statement. People of faith ARE allowed in the public square and JFK
said that. It's just that there are certain rights that shouldn't be trampled on.

Remember, the whole reason for that speech was that people were afraid that, if JFK won the Presidency, being a Catholic, that he would be taking orders from the Pope.

Guest 04-01-2012 07:14 PM

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One more reason to supply birth control to the other countries.

First you say that overpopulation is the greatest threat to the world. Then, when shown you are wrong, you say it's time to drive population lower. Thomas Malthus preached this doctrine in the late 1700', Woodrow Wilson and the Progressives advocating strict racial segregation to preserve the white race and discourage other races from having children and Deng Xiaoping established the one child policy in China. Which of these courses of action are you advocating?

Guest 04-01-2012 09:02 PM

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Except that he LIED about the tone of JFK's message. Santorum said he hated that only people of no faith were 'allowed in the public square' when there was no such statement. People of faith ARE allowed in the public square and JFK
said that. It's just that there are certain rights that shouldn't be trampled on.

Remember, the whole reason for that speech was that people were afraid that, if JFK won the Presidency, being a Catholic, that he would be taking orders from the Pope.

I think you just twisted Santorum's words around. The way he said them gives them a bit of a different flavor that you gave them.

The context of JFK's statements notwithstanding (and I already made your point), Santorum has every right to disagree with what JFK said. JFK was wrong in Santorum's view, and the view of most Americans I could argue.

Guest 04-02-2012 02:42 AM

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First you say that overpopulation is the greatest threat to the world. Then, when shown you are wrong, you say it's time to drive population lower. Thomas Malthus preached this doctrine in the late 1700', Woodrow Wilson and the Progressives advocating strict racial segregation to preserve the white race and discourage other races from having children and Deng Xiaoping established the one child policy in China. Which of these courses of action are you advocating?

Not even close. If we are all gods children, why would you care what race covers more earth than an other? Twist my words all you wish. I can turn the other cheek

Guest 04-02-2012 05:23 AM

You’re right, it is not close but dead on. You want population reduction, but since it is not the Europeans, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc. be specific - what country, religion or race do you want to decrease? I know it’s hard for a liberal/progressive to speak honestly and still be politically correct – but try. Which group/race do you want to see decline/disappear? You cannot say none of the above and still pretend to be honest. Your words are not being twisted, but rather exposed.

Guest 04-02-2012 05:43 AM

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I think you just twisted Santorum's words around. The way he said them gives them a bit of a different flavor that you gave them.

Here are Santorum's words - a direct quote:

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To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?
Read it closely. He says we live in a country where only people of non-faith can come into the public square and that is BLATANTLY not true. I mean, good grief, people of faith are CONSTANTLY exercising their First Ammendment rights to make their case!

Now, those are the facts. My OPINION as to why Santorum said that would be another matter.

Guest 04-02-2012 08:21 AM

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Here are Santorum's words - a direct quote:



Read it closely. He says we live in a country where only people of non-faith can come into the public square and that is BLATANTLY not true. I mean, good grief, people of faith are CONSTANTLY exercising their First Ammendment rights to make their case!

Now, those are the facts. My OPINION as to why Santorum said that would be another matter.

OK; even if you are correct; Santorum is not far off. Religion is being eliminated from the public square at every turn, and you've got to know that.

We've further down the road of "freedom from religion" that the "freedom of religion" that our founders guaranteed us in the Constitution that we were when JFK was President and no one, not even you, can dispute that.

Religion is under assault in this country by the secular establishment.

Guest 04-03-2012 02:42 AM

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You’re right, it is not close but dead on. You want population reduction, but since it is not the Europeans, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc. be specific - what country, religion or race do you want to decrease? I know it’s hard for a liberal/progressive to speak honestly and still be politically correct – but try. Which group/race do you want to see decline/disappear? You cannot say none of the above and still pretend to be honest. Your words are not being twisted, but rather exposed.

The US should be at or less than it is right now.


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