Originally Posted by cologal

This statement is simply untrue.....He goes around the world dissing the USA and he won't even salute it's flag. Where do you get this stuff from?

And the unemployment rate is running nationally at 10% not 20%.

Your wrong. Just ask the discouraged people who haven't worked in over 2 years. The 10% you quote is only people who are currently collecting unemployment. It is estimated at close to 20% and that doesn't include the millions of people who can't find full-time work and have 2 or more low paying part-time jobs.
Tens of thousands getting laid off every month and the only one hiring is the government. People still losing their homes and congress ratings at are an all time low. Consumer confidence under this president is at historic lows.
Social security, for the first time is dishing out more money then coming in because of the 20% decrease in contributions because they are not working. Obama has accumulated more debt then the 43 president before him combined.
Looks like were right in line with Greece.

Originally Posted by Donna2

Your wrong. Just ask the discouraged people who haven't worked in over 2 years. The 10% you quote is only people who are currently collecting unemployment. It is estimated at close to 20% and that doesn't include the millions of people who can't find full-time work and have 2 or more low paying part-time jobs.
Tens of thousands getting laid off every month and the only one hiring is the government. People still losing their homes and congress ratings at are an all time low. Consumer confidence under this president is at historic lows.
Social security, for the first time is dishing out more money then coming in because of the 20% decrease in contributions because they are not working. Obama has accumulated more debt then the 43 president before him combined.
Looks like were right in line with Greece.

Do not argue with COLOGAL.....she will defend this President 100% each and every time. She will claim to be middle...she will claim lots of stuff...she only appears to agrue hate and go after people. This is the proverbial party member who will spout all the rhetoric she is fed !

She thinks Republicans are evil and Democrats are saints. Fruitless battle !

Originally Posted by Donna2

Your wrong. Just ask the discouraged people who haven't worked in over 2 years. The 10% you quote is only people who are currently collecting unemployment. It is estimated at close to 20% and that doesn't include the millions of people who can't find full-time work and have 2 or more low paying part-time jobs.
Tens of thousands getting laid off every month and the only one hiring is the government. People still losing their homes and congress ratings at are an all time low. Consumer confidence under this president is at historic lows.
Social security, for the first time is dishing out more money then coming in because of the 20% decrease in contributions because they are not working. Obama has accumulated more debt then the 43 president before him combined.
Looks like were right in line with Greece.

So let me get this straight...Obama has run up the national debt in the 15 months he has been in office. So I ask you what is the amount of debt that has been added, in that 15 months, to the existing national debt when he took office?

And you state that the amount is more debt than the 43 presidents before him. What's the figure? To be more precise....I don't want the total of the national debt today because that is a carryover from previous years. Only the debt added in 2009-2010.

Originally Posted by Bucco

Do not argue with COLOGAL.....she will defend this President 100% each and every time. She will claim to be middle...she will claim lots of stuff...she only appears to agrue hate and go after people. This is the proverbial party member who will spout all the rhetoric she is fed !

She thinks Republicans are evil and Democrats are saints. Fruitless battle !

Wow. there really is people like that out there. Totally amazing.

Originally Posted by Donna2

Wow. there really is people like that out there. Totally amazing.

She hates Bush and loves Obama, and that is all there is !!!

She sound like a Democrat strategist ! AND she thinks that everyone else loves Bush and hates Obama...she doesnt get anything that is not "of the party"

That percent reflects only those who are still eligible to collect unemployment...NOT the real unemployment rate which would include those who no longer are eligible for benefits Plus those that have given up looking for work. It has been reported that factoring in the elements, the REAL unemployment rate is closer to 18%!

That is a number you will never hear discussed by the administration or it's amplifiers called the drive by media.

And there are pockets of unemployment in differing locales approaching 30%....no reporting on these either.

btk

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It is also mandatory to keep it civil in here. I see that bending a little too much from time to time.

Originally Posted by cologal

Cashman...Please point out the Hate speech I employed in that post.

What is a card carrying NRA member?

Tonight Fox News showed Karl Rove being assaulted by left-wing extremists. Where was the outrage from the government controlled media networks?

Originally Posted by cologal

Apparently not!

There are those who are not trying.

Yoda

Originally Posted by cologal

Targeting can be indicated without using a gun sight symbol! The use of this symbol implies the use of a gun which, by its nature, is violent. In light of the nasty crowds using the N word and spitting on elected officals.....gas line being cut. One simply cannot look the other way.

And geez I thought Bush was the constant target of the liberals not Palin.

Should we ban Target stores LOGO next?

Yoda

Originally Posted by cologal

Cashman...Please point out the Hate speech I employed in that post.

I repeat what is a card carrying NRA member?

Did you or did you not use this as a negative "trope" and an "epithet" of hate to fellow Americans who legally bear arms?

You made the statement so what did you mean?

And guns are not indicative of violence. People are the problem not the guns. Saying a gun is responsible for violence is like saying the eraser on a pencil is responsible for mistakes.

Tis all in the eye or opinion or belief of the beholder.

My guess on the "card carrying NRA..." is it is a prejudiced, catty snipe from one who dislikes guns, attempting to categorize others in a group they are opposed to...... Usually a red flag waving, baiting phraseology.....at least that is my take on how it is used.

btk

Anger is all well and good - it can be a motivation to DO something.

But where do we go? What do we do?

VK says "don't vote for an incumbent". Fine, I can see that. But let's look at our choices.

We can vote for Democrats, who will have to raise taxes to cover their profligate spending. Or we could vote for Republicans who will have to raise taxes to cover their profligate spending (that was worse than previous Democrats but not quite as bad as current Democrats). Neither one of them seems to know the meaning of the phrase "cutting spending"

We can vote for Democrats who want to redefine free speech into "non-offensive speech" or we can vote for Republicans who want to shred the Constitution's other clauses with warrantless wiretaps (even special 'express courts' and allowing 'after the fact warrants' aren't good enough for them). And Free Speech? Don't disagree with them or you're "supporting the terrorists". Neither one of them seems to understand the Constitution is a document to be taken as a whole - you don't just cherry-pick what you like.

What's left?

Originally Posted by cashman

I repeat what is a card carrying NRA member?

Did you or did you not use this as a negative "trope" and an "epithet" of hate to fellow Americans who legally bear arms?

You made the staement so what did you mean?

Come on Cashman, don't be too hard on her. You know the liberals don't give two cents about documents written many years ago protecting our rights.