Maybe this point has been made and I may have missed it in the copious and dense fog of heavy crossfire concerning the culpability of the Tea Party and its advocates. A fact, based on evidence available at this time, has identified Loughner's obsession with Congresswoman Giffords dating back to 2007. The Tea Party movement began ......when? Right.....well after 2007.

My heart grieves with the nation over the unspeakable tragedy in Arizona. While I admire those who can rise above the emotions this human tragedy evokes and who can express themselves with aloof, dispassionate indifference while suggesting those with fire in the belly react with the same passively cold logic, I finally take exception. I have tried so hard to remain an objective observer to the debate like some have suggested in this forum, but alas, I cannot. I cannot standby while those with selfish motivation and malice, use this tragedy employing sinister, calculated rhetoric to suppress the right of political expression and dissent by those who disagree with the government's current agenda. History tells us what can happen when good people remain passive and mute.

I was first struck by the differences in the way the Obama administration and the main stream media reacted to this unspeakably tragic mass murder and the way they reacted when Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim of Palestinian decent murdered 12 American soldiers, 1 civilian and wounded 30 others at Ft. Hood. After the slaughter, "Yemen-based cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, quickly declared Hasan a hero, as "fighting against the U.S. army is an Islamic duty", (Wikipedia)

My recollection is that we were asked to suppress our reaction to a clearly terrorist assassination of Americans. We were nudged into passive acceptance and encouraged to throttle back our outrage because it might upset good "Muslims". Now, with limited exception, the media, including the NY Times have stretched the fact pattern to suggest and imply by innuendo, right wing, Republican, Tea Party and Sarah Palin culpability for the tragedy. Bernie Sanders, as astutely noted by Number 6, is using the tragedy in a despicable fund raising effort to fight Republicans. Did any member of Congress call for a fund to fight Islamic terrorism? Why do "good" Muslims get a pass and "good" , patriotic Americans get the blame? Why does an actual act of terrorism at Ft. Hood get "kid glove" treatment by the media and the White House and the Tea Party and Sarah get the back of the hand and an obligatory nod with the wink of the eye meaning "go get them?"

I apologize for reacting with my gut instead of passive objectivity and distressing those with an insidious agenda. Naaaay....I take the apology back. As Teddy Roosevelt once wrote,

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”

With passionate intention, I reject the passive acceptance of any attempt to suppress the freedom of expression by any party. I categorically reject the calculated, subtle, relentless assault on our First Amendment rights by those who feel it stands in the way of their power, control and influence in the politcal arena.

Richie....I didn't point anything at you.

I will admit to being totally frustrated which is what prompted my post.


When this terrible event began I was so saddened I didn't post anything. I did admonish those who were trying to play the blame game and I still hold that opinion. However, if you look at my 2 previous posts in this thread hopefully you will see where I was coming from and why I gave up.....

Yes the where and are Bush haters on the left, I admit to being really pi**ed about the election and totally over the top the war. Does that make me a Bush hater? I would say for every Bush hater then there are an equal number of Obama haters now. So I said "We both have our dark sides"

I talked about the progression from the Democratic targets, to the Palin cross-hairs, to the campaign shooting range rally and how freighting that is. No one has even attempted to have a discussion about that....

I would have been as upset had this been a Repub, although it was more difficult because it was a woman to me personally.

If people want to have a open and honest discussion about issues I am game but if all we are going to do is mark our territory or say but you did it to then its hopeless.

I'll get off my soap box now...hope you are warmer than I am cause it is PDC here in Toledo, OH.

Cologal, I know you grieve over this senseless tragedy and I grieve along with you. Things like this should not happen, but they'll always be homicidal nuts around.

It was just that the blame game was on before the dust cleared. People was just minding their own business when all of a sudden they are being blamed for provoking the actions of a evil miscreant, just so a twisted political victory of some sort could be attained.

I still firmly believe that this type of bulls**t is perpetrated far more by the Liberals than the Republicans. I can't even remember a case like this involving Republicans blaming Democrats/Liberals in a similar instance, but I can name more examples involving Liberals.

I know you try hard not to be included in any of this and I respect that; and only post my thoughts in the hope that you and others like you wake up to the travesty of the liberal media response to this.

During this period I totally stayed away from the prime MSNBC hours because of their bent. CNN, NBC and PBS discussed only the political tone being very careful. FOX news started after the sheriff but even she backed down when, I believe, she saw him as a honest man not trying to flame any passions.

Even O'Reilley said something about the tone and how it had to be addressed.

Thanks for the post.....

First of all, I personally would love to see more quality and reasonable debate on issues.

Secondly, the media STILL TO THIS DAY continue their assault...still maintain that this horrible shooting was a result of strong language by political debate.

This is more realistic..this article reviews what happened from day one....

"The dominant storyline in the press—one that persisted in the face of all the facts—was that right-wing hysteria and lunacy had given rise to Loughner’s atrocity. "

The author referred to President Obama's speech and comments that the onslaught and attacks should stop....it has not, at least not from where I am sitting. Now the media begins their discourse with AN ASSUMPTION that we all know that is how it started.

"Let’s go back to this Saturday. When news of the incident first broke, bloggers began to speculate that this was a Tea Party-related incident. No evidence of that emerged. Once a little more information trickled out, The New York Times and other outlets linked Loughner to a far-right publication called American Renaissance. That likewise had no basis in fact. Over the next day or two, as Loughner turned out to give off numerous indications of mental illness but very few of right-wing ideology, the dominant analysis became, “Okay maybe this guy was nuts, but, still, he was at least indirectly a product of a climate of political hysteria.”

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...izona-shooting

It mentions that on Monday, the New York Times actually used the word LEGITIMATE to describe the holding of the right wing...ALL right wing as responsible for this vile act.

This is a great article, and holds the media's feet to the fire and they deserve it, HOWEVER, as I type this there is reporting going on ASSUMING this was the fault of right wing folks.

No matter how well the President handled this event the other night, the Obermann's and the Matthew's of the world continue and it is now something that is accepted, much like everything bad was assumed about George Bush.

The media controls us....if you read any of the comments on this forum during the campaign, the election and the last two years, you read so much of a echo of what the media types tell us,and not what we actually feel.

Anyone with some amount of reasoning ability can
 

read the ever increasing amount of information about this man's past and background and very easily conclude his problem(s) are/were not politically driven.

Using the media's and some posters approach we could conclude that if he drove a red car the source of the problems were the color red in origin.

There was no mention of politics or affiliation when he struck terror in the minds and hearts of his fellow students in school.

The real issue, AGAIN, is that he was ALLOWED to continue without proper authorities taking action. He was a KNOWN future liability. Society chose to not pursue.

At some point, hopefully, real rational thinking will dis-allow the need to have to fit happenings with one political label or another.

btk

This site pretty much says it all
 

What does this say to you exactly?

School yard catharsis!!!
 

No basis, no thought, no point!

btk

I rest my case and thank you very much for making that case for me !!!!